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[Auresta]

byne wrote...

Auresta wrote...

Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

Auresta wrote...

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png

Elaborate? Did you edit this? 

It is the model for the kid out of the PCC files.  I have posted quite a few of them in this thread also.  The kid one didn't really stick out with anything special though, atleast to me 

It says harbinger on the top left.

HMM_ARM_HARBINGER_GRD_MDL


...intriguing

Hold your ******, everyone. Could be edited. One of the lines certainly looks edited.

[Amialis666]

In a way I hate bioware right now...
Either they screwed my favorite game ever, making the entire series sour in my mind.

Or they are pulling off one of the biggest deceptions ever.

In any case, the thought of playing any of the ME games makes my head hurt...
It could all be resolved by them admitting the endings were a deceptions. Hope they reveal something after Japans release. I really want to continue to enjoy mass effect again.

Garrus is a sexy beast. I miss him.

[MJF JD]

someone else dive into that file and confirm this if they can. Not saying the poster edited it that way but I like confirmations.

[Samurai Wes]

Pyewacket wrote...

Samurai Wes wrote...

theffernan wrote...

Dunno if this has been posted, just thought I'd mention something Javik just said to me.

"Subjugating the Reapers will not bring victory, only their extinction will."

That's Javik for you.  It's probably true, but remember he hates AI.  He also tells you to throw Legion out the airlock.

And he may be right about that too.  Because as I recall, Legion ends up uploading Reaper code into all the Geth.  Hell, even as I was letting it happen in the game I was going, "Oh, that can't turn out well.".

Yeah it's funny how that works.  Legion wants to upload Reaper tech into geth and you just end up letting it happen thinking that it could turn out really bad.  The real reason we let it happen? It's Legion....

[Ona Demonie]

Dwailing wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...

Rifneno wrote...
I don't know anything about AC, but the ME team has always done just ridiculous levels of detail.  Remember that Prothean artifact on Eletania that gives Shepard a vision of Protheans observing early humans?  Whether you activated that thing and saw the vision is kept through ME2 and ME3 imports, allowing you a bit of dialogue with Javik about it.  DA's imported saves don't bother keeping the flags of world-altering decisions and ME saves whether you messed with an orb 2 games ago to give you an extra couple lines of dialogue.

We're not "reaching" like opponents of the theory claim.  They clearly haven't been paying attention, because this is exactly the sort of attention to detail that makes ME's writing what it is.  Back when people talked about the Klendagon description during ME1, I'm sure they got this same garbage.  I know I did months back when I overanalyzed the star behind TIM in ME2 after a dev interview said it was a clue to his location.  I said I don't know where he is, but that's a supergiant behind him, an extremely rare type of star.  Oh, look at that, is that a supergiant behind TIM's base?  Why, I do believe it is.  People will throw garbage at this no matter how much evidence you put forth because the people screaming "denial" are the ones with the closed minds.  And what's really sad is that when they DO release the real finish, those people will dislocate their shoulders patting themselves on the back as they assure themselves that BW just threw that ending together, no matter how complex it is and how fast they put it out, because of our theorizing.

...  Sometimes I get why Reapers hate organics so much.

Most notable details with Assassin's Creed is the end of the very first game. Activate your eagle vision and EVERYTHING around you is covered in symbols and codes. Players spent a long time going through all of them to piece together what Assasin's Creed was about: 2012 Doomsday.

But back on topic, I didn't have the console needed to play ME1, but wow... In ME3, there were tons of minor details, like Blue Rose of Illium or how the Asari in Huerta knew and killed Joker's sister.

That Asari killed Joker's sister?!  Screw War Assets, I just might let her have that gun anyway....

If you listen to ALL of her story, she mentions "Hillary". Joker's sister is Hillary. Hillary's leg was broken and the Asari and her were hiding when Hillary was sobbing and the husks were nearby. The asari had to shoot Hillary to save herself.

[Rifneno]

Quick, someone get a fan before that smoking gun sets off the fire alarms!

[Teh Tux]

Ona Demonie wrote...

Auresta wrote...

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png

Elaborate? Did you edit this? 

That red dot... It's exactly like the Reaper when it spoke to Shepard back on Rannoch.

I find it less interesting that the kid has a red dot on him, and more interesting that the object name has 'Harbinger' in it.
Harbinger being the oldest and most powerful reaper.

He's aged well it seems.

[MatthewGold]

Kristina Able ‏ @KristinaAble
@masseffect I loved the game until the end. No closure whatsoever. Unless its a blue pill or red pill moment ala Matrix.

Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect
@kristinaable Some times you are presented with binary choices And for the record, red pill or the blue one?

>red pill or the blue one?
Good enough for me.

[TSgt_ShaneV]

taviastrife wrote...

TSgt_ShaneV wrote...

Quick question -

Is the breath,London,ruble scene what's cause pause for most people to accept this indoc theory (it is a really great theory)?

To me it did.  It just doesn't add up.  The Citadel supposedly explodes after sending out the wave of light.
The rubble that's surrounding Shepard doesn't look Citadel-like; it looks like the area where you were hit.  Either Shepard survived falling through an atmosphere again, or he/she never actually got to the Citadel.

Also, the scene with the Normandy going through a relay and crash landing didn't make much sense to me, especially when Garrus happened to walk out (he was with me when Harby's laser hit).

  I forgot to add the whole relay's exploding. I mean if they showed it being bathed it [insert color] light then going to the Galaxy map, it would be one thing, but you saw the relay's explode with chunks and bits shooting into space. After Arrivial I can't see how solar systems would remain.

[Golferguy758]

Auresta wrote...

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png

Elaborate? Did you edit this? 

not sure if this is a trap...

[balance5050]

byne wrote...

Auresta wrote...

Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

Auresta wrote...

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png

Elaborate? Did you edit this? 

It is the model for the kid out of the PCC files.  I have posted quite a few of them in this thread also.  The kid one didn't really stick out with anything special though, atleast to me 

It says harbinger on the top left.

HMM_ARM_HARBINGER_GRD_MDL


...intriguing

Yeah, this is the hardest evidence I've seen so far, but I'v always had hope.

[Dwailing]

Ona Demonie wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...

Rifneno wrote...
I don't know anything about AC, but the ME team has always done just ridiculous levels of detail.  Remember that Prothean artifact on Eletania that gives Shepard a vision of Protheans observing early humans?  Whether you activated that thing and saw the vision is kept through ME2 and ME3 imports, allowing you a bit of dialogue with Javik about it.  DA's imported saves don't bother keeping the flags of world-altering decisions and ME saves whether you messed with an orb 2 games ago to give you an extra couple lines of dialogue.

We're not "reaching" like opponents of the theory claim.  They clearly haven't been paying attention, because this is exactly the sort of attention to detail that makes ME's writing what it is.  Back when people talked about the Klendagon description during ME1, I'm sure they got this same garbage.  I know I did months back when I overanalyzed the star behind TIM in ME2 after a dev interview said it was a clue to his location.  I said I don't know where he is, but that's a supergiant behind him, an extremely rare type of star.  Oh, look at that, is that a supergiant behind TIM's base?  Why, I do believe it is.  People will throw garbage at this no matter how much evidence you put forth because the people screaming "denial" are the ones with the closed minds.  And what's really sad is that when they DO release the real finish, those people will dislocate their shoulders patting themselves on the back as they assure themselves that BW just threw that ending together, no matter how complex it is and how fast they put it out, because of our theorizing.

...  Sometimes I get why Reapers hate organics so much.

Most notable details with Assassin's Creed is the end of the very first game. Activate your eagle vision and EVERYTHING around you is covered in symbols and codes. Players spent a long time going through all of them to piece together what Assasin's Creed was about: 2012 Doomsday.

But back on topic, I didn't have the console needed to play ME1, but wow... In ME3, there were tons of minor details, like Blue Rose of Illium or how the Asari in Huerta knew and killed Joker's sister.

That Asari killed Joker's sister?!  Screw War Assets, I just might let her have that gun anyway....

If you listen to ALL of her story, she mentions "Hillary". Joker's sister is Hillary. Hillary's leg was broken and the Asari and her were hiding when Hillary was sobbing and the husks were nearby. The asari had to shoot Hillary to save herself.

I had listened to the Asari's story.  I hadn't reached the part where Joker tells me about his sister.  I just learned that here.  That gun is sounding more and more appealing...

[Ona Demonie]

Teh Tux wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...

Auresta wrote...

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png

Elaborate? Did you edit this? 

That red dot... It's exactly like the Reaper when it spoke to Shepard back on Rannoch.

I find it less interesting that the kid has a red dot on him, and more interesting that the object name has 'Harbinger' in it.
Harbinger being the oldest and most powerful reaper.

He's aged well it seems.

Not only that, but notice the "GRD_MDL" after it. That translates to "Ground Model". Harbinger, the oldest of all the Reapers... his ground model is a human child. Could it mean that his form was a shell of who he was?

[Empiro3]

Does anyone know where this panel appears on the Citadel?:

http://oi43.tinypic.com/qoammw.jpg

I found this shot on http://w11.zetaboard...opic/7688087/1/

Seems interesting at least, if you're looking for parallels between the final citadel scenes and earlier scenes in ME.

[Edrac]

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png

... Dude. 

[Golferguy758]

MatthewGold wrote...

Kristina Able ‏ @KristinaAble
@masseffect I loved the game until the end. No closure whatsoever. Unless its a blue pill or red pill moment ala Matrix.

Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect
@kristinaable Some times you are presented with binary choices And for the record, red pill or the blue one?

>red pill or the blue one?
Good enough for me.

Picture works for this oen as well. glad I just made it.

[Samurai Wes]

Ona Demonie wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...

Rifneno wrote...
I don't know anything about AC, but the ME team has always done just ridiculous levels of detail.  Remember that Prothean artifact on Eletania that gives Shepard a vision of Protheans observing early humans?  Whether you activated that thing and saw the vision is kept through ME2 and ME3 imports, allowing you a bit of dialogue with Javik about it.  DA's imported saves don't bother keeping the flags of world-altering decisions and ME saves whether you messed with an orb 2 games ago to give you an extra couple lines of dialogue.

We're not "reaching" like opponents of the theory claim.  They clearly haven't been paying attention, because this is exactly the sort of attention to detail that makes ME's writing what it is.  Back when people talked about the Klendagon description during ME1, I'm sure they got this same garbage.  I know I did months back when I overanalyzed the star behind TIM in ME2 after a dev interview said it was a clue to his location.  I said I don't know where he is, but that's a supergiant behind him, an extremely rare type of star.  Oh, look at that, is that a supergiant behind TIM's base?  Why, I do believe it is.  People will throw garbage at this no matter how much evidence you put forth because the people screaming "denial" are the ones with the closed minds.  And what's really sad is that when they DO release the real finish, those people will dislocate their shoulders patting themselves on the back as they assure themselves that BW just threw that ending together, no matter how complex it is and how fast they put it out, because of our theorizing.

...  Sometimes I get why Reapers hate organics so much.

Most notable details with Assassin's Creed is the end of the very first game. Activate your eagle vision and EVERYTHING around you is covered in symbols and codes. Players spent a long time going through all of them to piece together what Assasin's Creed was about: 2012 Doomsday.

But back on topic, I didn't have the console needed to play ME1, but wow... In ME3, there were tons of minor details, like Blue Rose of Illium or how the Asari in Huerta knew and killed Joker's sister.

That Asari killed Joker's sister?!  Screw War Assets, I just might let her have that gun anyway....

If you listen to ALL of her story, she mentions "Hillary". Joker's sister is Hillary. Hillary's leg was broken and the Asari and her were hiding when Hillary was sobbing and the husks were nearby. The asari had to shoot Hillary to save herself.

I thought I listened to that whole story.  If the endings are real, Joker might never find out being stuck on that planet.

[Dwailing]

MatthewGold wrote...

Kristina Able ‏ @KristinaAble
@masseffect I loved the game until the end. No closure whatsoever. Unless its a blue pill or red pill moment ala Matrix.

Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect
@kristinaable Some times you are presented with binary choices And for the record, red pill or the blue one?

>red pill or the blue one?
Good enough for me.

Red pill??? Red Conduit???  Connection anyone?

[Dorfgonewild81]

Auresta wrote...

Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

Auresta wrote...

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png

Elaborate? Did you edit this? 

It is the model for the kid out of the PCC files.  I have posted quite a few of them in this thread also.  The kid one didn't really stick out with anything special though, atleast to me 

It says harbinger on the top left.

edit:  rephrashing - I am looking at the file right now, with UE and that file name and the little boy model are not the same.  

Modifié par Dorfgonewild81, 15 mars 2012 - 02:56 .

[Amialis666]

kaotician wrote...

A quick question, if I may, for a theory I'm mulling over: Do you get the ending with Joker and Edi emerging from the crashed Normandy with every ending you choose? I chose synergy myself, so saw it. But what about the other options?

You see it for all the options. 

The only difference is in the synergy option joker and the rest of the crew are synthetic, where as they are normal in the other 2.

As well, (What most of the theory is based on.) if certain requirements are met, you get a cut scene after the normandy crashes where presumably shepard is gasping for air, in some london rumble. Which makes no sense since if it is shepard, how did he get back down to london.

[BlamBlamKerpow]

byne wrote...

Auresta wrote...

Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

Auresta wrote...

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png

Elaborate? Did you edit this? 

It is the model for the kid out of the PCC files.  I have posted quite a few of them in this thread also.  The kid one didn't really stick out with anything special though, atleast to me 

It says harbinger on the top left.

HMM_ARM_HARBINGER_GRD_MDL


...intriguing

I find it fishy that the file's called BioD_End002_500Choice.pcc (BIOG_HMM_ARM_HARBINGER_GRD_MDL) since it's the normal kid model and not the blue one from the ending.

[byne]

You know, I know the subject of scars suddenly appearing at the end has been brought up before, but has anyone brought up the fact that the renegade scarring isnt present on DoppleShep in the final dream?

Thats somewhat odd.

[Ona Demonie]

Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

Auresta wrote...

Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

Auresta wrote...

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png

Elaborate? Did you edit this? 

It is the model for the kid out of the PCC files.  I have posted quite a few of them in this thread also.  The kid one didn't really stick out with anything special though, atleast to me 

It says harbinger on the top left.

I am gonna call BS on that then, because I am staring at the file, models, textures and overlays right now and the little boy does not have the harbinger tag on him or any other part under that file.

Can you screen shot it for us?

[MatthewGold]

Dwailing wrote...

MatthewGold wrote...

Kristina Able ‏ @KristinaAble
@masseffect I loved the game until the end. No closure whatsoever. Unless its a blue pill or red pill moment ala Matrix.

Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect
@kristinaable Some times you are presented with binary choices And for the record, red pill or the blue one?

>red pill or the blue one?
Good enough for me.

Red pill??? Red Conduit???  Connection anyone?

http://en.wikipedia....l_and_blue_pill

[Moirai]

mooney6023 wrote...

* The survivors shown after the Normandy crash are always the love interest, joker, and whomever you TALKED to the most during the game.   Note I said talked to, not brought with you on missions.  This appears to be Javik if you have the DLC and exhausted all conversation until the NPC's repeat themselves after every mission.  Not surprising, Javik seems to have the highest number of unique statements out of all the crew followed by Joker then EDI.  Note: if you choose the "Synthesis" ending EDI will be a survivor.

Interesting idea, but I can't say that my playthrough supported this.

Garrus and Ashley were on my 'final run' team, and Ashley stepped out of the Normandy at the end, even though I hardly talked to her throughout the game but had chatted with Garrus on a regualr basis.

I think there's something a bit more random going on here.