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Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

Auresta wrote...

Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

Auresta wrote...

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png


Elaborate? Did you edit this? 


It is the model for the kid out of the PCC files.  I have posted quite a few of them in this thread also.  The kid one didn't really stick out with anything special though, atleast to me :huh:


It says harbinger on the top left.


I am gonna call BS on that then, because I am staring at the file, models, textures and overlays right now and the little boy does not have the harbinger tag on him or any other part under that file.


thanks for defusing it before it went too far.  

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Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

Auresta wrote...

Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

Auresta wrote...

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png


Elaborate? Did you edit this? 


It is the model for the kid out of the PCC files.  I have posted quite a few of them in this thread also.  The kid one didn't really stick out with anything special though, atleast to me :huh:


It says harbinger on the top left.


I am gonna call BS on that then, because I am staring at the file, models, textures and overlays right now and the little boy does not have the harbinger tag on him or any other part under that file.


The harbinger tag is edited.

edit: sorry, just zoomed in on it right now ;/

Modifié par Auresta, 15 mars 2012 - 02:55 .


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Sorry for possibly spreading around false rumors. I was just relaying the information from this thread:

http://www.gamefaqs....fect-3/62247881

In that thread, this picture was also just posted:

http://i.imgur.com/VHc81.png

So maybe the other one was fake? IDK.

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if this crap turns out to be true. shall we castrate bioware once and for all? or celebrate ?

I is confused.

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Auresta wrote...

Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

Auresta wrote...

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png


Elaborate? Did you edit this? 


It is the model for the kid out of the PCC files.  I have posted quite a few of them in this thread also.  The kid one didn't really stick out with anything special though, atleast to me :huh:


It says harbinger on the top left.


Holy... if this is legit I can't imagine how BW is NOT having a fitting ending up their sleeves

Edit: Dam - nvm :(

Modifié par Mil_LorD, 15 mars 2012 - 02:57 .


#12556
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Nevermind.  Trolled.

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Descedent wrote...

if this crap turns out to be true. shall we castrate bioware once and for all? or celebrate ?

I is confused.

Celebrate because the timliness of it means they had already done it and intended this.

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Still callign that harbinger model a trap. No way. No ****ing way.

Ackbar, get back in here.Posted Image

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Pic about star-brat is fake. Harbinger was edited in.

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CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png

 
In the package line it states Harbinger, there we go.

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MatthewGold wrote...

Descedent wrote...

if this crap turns out to be true. shall we castrate bioware once and for all? or celebrate ?

I is confused.

Celebrate because the timliness of it means they had already done it and intended this.


They would have to announce something like NOW since the game is offically out world wide now for us to celebrate.:mellow:

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HairyMadDog1010 wrote...

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png

 
In the package line it states Harbinger, there we go.


Read the posts above you! It was fake!

Modifié par Auresta, 15 mars 2012 - 02:58 .


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Sage Hyden ‏ @SageHyden
@masseffect Bioware doesn't have to "confirm" the Indoctrination Theory. I believe it's true, and it's what makes the ending genius.

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@sagehyden Glad you are enjoying interpreting the ending!

Oh ho ho, Bioware.

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MatthewGold wrote...

Sage Hyden ‏ @SageHyden
@masseffect Bioware doesn't have to "confirm" the Indoctrination Theory. I believe it's true, and it's what makes the ending genius.

Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect
@sagehyden Glad you are enjoying interpreting the ending!

Oh ho ho, Bioware.


the massive amounts of twitter trolling needs to go down in record books for a-holes lol

Modifié par Descedent, 15 mars 2012 - 03:00 .


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Amialis666 wrote...

kaotician wrote...

A quick question, if I may, for a theory I'm mulling over: Do you get the ending with Joker and Edi emerging from the crashed Normandy with every ending you choose? I chose synergy myself, so saw it. But what about the other options?


You see it for all the options. 

The only difference is in the synergy option joker and the rest of the crew are synthetic, where as they are normal in the other 2.

As well, (What most of the theory is based on.) if certain requirements are met, you get a cut scene after the normandy crashes where presumably shepard is gasping for air, in some london rumble. Which makes no sense since if it is shepard, how did he get back down to london.


Thanks very much. So this business of the Star Child declaring an option  of destroying all synthetic life just isn't actually true then? I can't remember which option it was, but he talks about destroying the reapers, the geth and all AI life, doesn't he? So how's EDI still alive regardless?

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Too bad the model pic was fake, woulda been nice.


Also, on an unrelated note: Was about to start the assault on TIM's base, and was at the char selection screen, when I got a Critical Mission failure.

I must suck at this game if I died at the character selection screen.

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Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

Auresta wrote...

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png


Elaborate? Did you edit this? 


It is the model for the kid out of the PCC files.  I have posted quite a few of them in this thread also.  The kid one didn't really stick out with anything special though, atleast to me :huh:


Never MIND.

Modifié par iwillkillfortali, 15 mars 2012 - 03:02 .


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iwillkillfortali wrote...

Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

Auresta wrote...

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png


Elaborate? Did you edit this? 


It is the model for the kid out of the PCC files.  I have posted quite a few of them in this thread also.  The kid one didn't really stick out with anything special though, atleast to me :huh:


Don't you see the word harbinger.B)


Picture was edited. Harbinger was edited in.

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byne wrote...

Too bad the model pic was fake, woulda been nice.


Also, on an unrelated note: Was about to start the assault on TIM's base, and was at the char selection screen, when I got a Critical Mission failure.

I must suck at this game if I died at the character selection screen.


You tried to pick James didn't you?

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byne wrote...

Too bad the model pic was fake, woulda been nice.


Also, on an unrelated note: Was about to start the assault on TIM's base, and was at the char selection screen, when I got a Critical Mission failure.

I must suck at this game if I died at the character selection screen.



:ph34r: in the system.

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Auresta wrote...

iwillkillfortali wrote...

Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

Auresta wrote...

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png


Elaborate? Did you edit this? 


It is the model for the kid out of the PCC files.  I have posted quite a few of them in this thread also.  The kid one didn't really stick out with anything special though, atleast to me :huh:


Don't you see the word harbinger.B)


Picture was edited. Harbinger was edited in.


I just figured this out.

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kaotician wrote...

Amialis666 wrote...

kaotician wrote...

A quick question, if I may, for a theory I'm mulling over: Do you get the ending with Joker and Edi emerging from the crashed Normandy with every ending you choose? I chose synergy myself, so saw it. But what about the other options?


You see it for all the options. 

The only difference is in the synergy option joker and the rest of the crew are synthetic, where as they are normal in the other 2.

As well, (What most of the theory is based on.) if certain requirements are met, you get a cut scene after the normandy crashes where presumably shepard is gasping for air, in some london rumble. Which makes no sense since if it is shepard, how did he get back down to london.


Thanks very much. So this business of the Star Child declaring an option  of destroying all synthetic life just isn't actually true then? I can't remember which option it was, but he talks about destroying the reapers, the geth and all AI life, doesn't he? So how's EDI still alive regardless?


Essentially it is summed up as: The beam knocks shepard out. harbinger attempts to indoctrinate Shepard into seeing it the Reaper way. Choosing Destroy breaks the control over you. The other two succumb to it..

Nothing actually occurs between the knock out time and the Shepard takes a breath time.

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Auresta wrote...

HairyMadDog1010 wrote...

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png

 
In the package line it states Harbinger, there we go.


Read the posts above you! It was fake!



Yeah i know when I posted it was before the revelation, look at how close the time stamps were.

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Damn, it would have been cool if that kid's pic was had really said Harby. Ah well...

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MatthewGold wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MatthewGold wrote...

Kristina Able ‏ @KristinaAble
@masseffect I loved the game until the end. No closure whatsoever. Unless its a blue pill or red pill moment ala Matrix.

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@kristinaable Some times you are presented with binary choices :) And for the record, red pill or the blue one?

>red pill or the blue one?
Good enough for me.


Red pill??? Red Conduit???  Connection anyone?

http://en.wikipedia....l_and_blue_pill


If this really is a Matrix reference, then this might just be our greatest piece of evidence yet.  And this seems so intentional that it doesn't seem physically possible for it be a coincidence.  Of course, that is what Private Jimmy said, and anyone who has watched Red vs Blue knows how well that turned out...