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[wryan2011]

I have this fear that even if this indoc theory is true the next dlc will have shepherd incapacitated while you take control of the british clock tower guy who 'finishes the fight' and is also the protagonist for the next set of mass effect games. ...or even worse, it's Vega who finishes the fight! That would be ...loco of Bioware I think.

Don't mind me, I think all this conspiracy theory is leading me down dark paths ; )

[Muezick]

Descedent wrote...

I heard you guys wanted a good story?

*snip*

I can't wait for may

GAME OF THRONES SE2 YES YES

but


stay on topic =|

[N3vDawg]

Descedent wrote...

Flammenpanzer wrote...

Hurricane Brad wrote...

Auresta wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Look at the box that holds the art book within the ME3 CE, then flip it so that the N7 armor is no the bottom half of the box.

Mind blown.

why, what do you see?

Tell me that doesn't look like someone helping SHEPARD out of the rubble, or maybe, maybe that's VEGA in the N7 armor...

Depending on your choice, he does join the program.

Has been brought up before and most of us took it as a symbol of Shepard's saving humanity. I don't think we should be reading into it so much.

I mentioned this a while back.  Flip the picture on it's right side so the rubble is on the bottom.  The structures sticking into the sky in the background look just like the ones that surround the beam in London.  We know that Shepard ends up in rubble at the end, and the arm pulling him up appears to be Shepard's as well since it appears to be his N7 armour.  I believe the picture is a metaphor for Shepard pulling himself up and back into the fight.

And to burst the bubble, look at the back of the CE Edition Art book, and notice the background is the same as the one on the box...same scene...so.its not the same structures as London

disagree you can even see the transport tanks and the structure in the background. its the beam scene. and yes there were buildings near the beam scene in the game. not the cover for the artbook, the cover for the packaging that holds the artbook


see

I dont know. Let's just not rule it out for now.

[the_red_one1223]

Digitalself wrote...

Am I the only one who noticed that when TIM makes you shoot at Anderson, you actually are the one who get shot in the chest ? 
I mean you can clearly see Shepard looking at his own hand blood soaked and then placing it over his chest to cover the wound later on when he sits down and talk to Anderson.

I take it for a symbol of the struggle against reaper indoctrination. 

What do you think about it ?

Maybe...but what if...Anderson was the one that's holding the gun? It would explain how he got that wound. ...if not, he just now realized that he's bleeding badly from the giant laser of death that he was hit with before going to the Citadel.

[Samurai Wes]

Interesting.... Doesn't mean it's true or not.

http://masseffect.wi...LC_Revealed!!!!

[Auresta]

Samurai Wes wrote...

Interesting.... Doesn't mean it's true or not.

http://masseffect.wi...LC_Revealed!!!!

No real source (other than 4chan) nor verification. So at this point, still rumors.

[RedSpectrum47]

wryan2011 wrote...

I have this fear that even if this indoc theory is true the next dlc will have shepherd incapacitated while you take control of the british clock tower guy who 'finishes the fight' and is also the protagonist for the next set of mass effect games. ...or even worse, it's Vega who finishes the fight! That would be ...loco of Bioware I think.

Don't mind me, I think all this conspiracy theory is leading me down dark paths ; )

Just so long as it ends with your Li, im somewhat fine with that...Rannoch here I come

Modifié par RedSpectrum47, 15 mars 2012 - 03:47 .

[Roll Equals Cute]

Descedent wrote...

I heard you guys wanted a good story?

*snip*

Stay on topic, if you would 

And hey, maybe not all of us finished the first season yet!  *angrily shakes fist* 

[wryan2011]

RedSpectrum47 wrote...

wryan2011 wrote...

I have this fear that even if this indoc theory is true the next dlc will have shepherd incapacitated while you take control of the british clock tower guy who 'finishes the fight' and is also the protagonist for the next set of mass effect games. ...or even worse, it's Vega who finishes the fight! That would be ...loco of Bioware I think.

Don't mind me, I think all this conspiracy theory is leading me down dark paths ; )

Just so long as it ends with your Li, im somewhat fine with that...Rannoch here I come

...when you put it that way... 

[taviastrife]

wryan2011 wrote...

I have this fear that even if this indoc theory is true the next dlc will have shepherd incapacitated while you take control of the british clock tower guy who 'finishes the fight' and is also the protagonist for the next set of mass effect games. ...or even worse, it's Vega who finishes the fight! That would be ...loco of Bioware I think.

Don't mind me, I think all this conspiracy theory is leading me down dark paths ; )

I'm afraid of this.  To me, that would suck big time.  Technically, if this theory is true, Shepard didn't actually finish his/her story, beating the Reapers.  I want closure of the Reaper incident with SHEPARD, not someone else.

DX

Modifié par taviastrife, 15 mars 2012 - 03:50 .

[Descedent]

Roll Equals Cute wrote...

Descedent wrote...

I heard you guys wanted a good story?

*snip*

Stay on topic, if you would 

And hey, maybe not all of us finished the first season yet!  *angrily shakes fist* 

Shame if you haven't thats like not playing me 1 and 2. damn shame! :-p

[Evil_medved]

Okay guys this is wild but think of it.

Imagine that whole scene near console is indeed truth, there was no TIM - thats indoctrination strikes Shepard right if front of Anderson. He never actually looks on TIM and only once he says "dont listen to HIM(harby?)" but thats about it. How about there are only two of them. Anderson says "They control you" "you are being indoctrinated" looking straight on Shepard/in camera. And Shepards shot does kill him.

Dunno how tie up this with god-kid space magic though, Second attempt?

[ArkkAngel007]

The ending is all about openings, and by ending I mean the Destroy and 5k EMS ending. Shepard is also very likely the catalyst, and he may not live by the end for that very reason.

Jessica never really states what exactly in the game and in that one viewpoint that she supported, just that it was explained much better than she could have.

Edit: NDAs are still on.  I doubt she'd do something so blatant as saying that yep, here is the whole explanation, and my view at the time is the same as what the ending actually is.

Modifié par ArkkAngel007, 15 mars 2012 - 03:52 .

[Ghrelt]

Can any one else see a "worst case scenario" ending where the allies are going to lose to the reapers and the last thing you see is Shepard climbing into that pod the prothean came out of?

[Niemack Saarinen]

----- Nevermind responded to a older post.

Modifié par Niemack Saarinen, 15 mars 2012 - 03:52 .

[Peer of the Empire]

phyreblade74 wrote...

I don't understand why this is such a persistent question.  Simply put, Shepard wasn't indoctrinated during those scenes.  In fact, Shepard isn't indoctrinated during the final battle, either.  The entire ending sequence, rather, is a demonstration of Shepard's fight against Harbinger trying to indoctrinate him, shows the mental process of indoctrination itself.  The choice Shepard ultimately makes is what determines whether Harbinger's attack succeeds, or not.  So if Shepard chooses correctly, he overcomes Harbinger's attempt to indoctrinate him, he beats Harbinger, and he's NEVER indoctrinated.  If not, Harbinger wins and THEN Shepard is indoctrinated.

I was very nearly indoctrinated myself.  Granted, it was the middle of the night.  I'm glad I picked destroy (after first waiting long enough to get a critical mission failure ) even before figuring it all out

Shephard lives!

Modifié par Peer of the Empire, 15 mars 2012 - 03:56 .

[Golferguy758]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

The ending is all about openings, and by ending I mean the Destroy and 5k EMS ending. Shepard is also very likely the catalyst, and he may not live by the end for that very reason.

Jessica never really states what exactly in the game and in that one viewpoint that she supported, just that it was explained much better than she could have.

Eh, even then. Still depressing again. Like I said. my hope dwindles

[Amialis666]

wryan2011 wrote...

I have this fear that even if this indoc theory is true the next dlc will have shepherd incapacitated while you take control of the british clock tower guy who 'finishes the fight' and is also the protagonist for the next set of mass effect games. ...or even worse, it's Vega who finishes the fight! That would be ...loco of Bioware I think.

Don't mind me, I think all this conspiracy theory is leading me down dark paths ; )

I can not see vega... Mass effect is all about creating our own character, and deciding their actions.

Vega is already created and has a set personality.
This would destroy the roleplaying as well as the interactive story part of things.

Unless bioware is deciding to get out of the genre they are known for...

[Nazoa]

I'm loving how this theory is coming along, and I have something to add, that I don't believe has been said, though admittedly I haven't read every page.

Many people ask why the hell the god-child talks about synthetics (reapers) destroying organics so that synthetics cannot rise up. Thus preventing "chaos".

This could be a nonsense argument that only makes sense because Shepard is indoctrinated, OR it could be a twist of the truth.

What if the Reapers were the first synthetics ever created, by a civilization that grew very advanced? They then became self-aware, realized they were superior to their creators, then overthrew them. They now kill off organics after a certain amount of time, because they fear that another race of self-aware synthetics will rise up to challenge them.

SO to hold their dominance, they wipe out all advanced organic life before they can advance far enough to create synthetics to challenge the reapers.

Thoughts?

[Flammenpanzer]

Samurai Wes wrote...

Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

 Ok indoctrinites and hallucinators, was going through the game files and inside the epilogue files (yes, many are labeled something like end_003epilogue, this one is just end_003)  I was going through the one that carried all the assets for the jungle planet the Normandy crashes on (yes, it is named jungle_planet), but inside there is 2 pieces of art, with 3 different mattes of each:





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wasn't able to copy and paste original pics in this post so I re typed them.

http://i.imgur.com/Y7zps.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cBw7j.jpg

Interesting....

Okay guys this is wild but think of it.

Imagine that whole scene near console is indeed truth, there was no TIM -
thats indoctrination strikes Shepard right if front of Anderson. He
never actually looks on TIM and only once he says "dont listen to
HIM(harby?)" but thats about it. How about there are only two of them.
Anderson says "They control you" "you are being indoctrinated" looking
straight on Shepard/in camera. And Shepards shot does kill him.

Dunno how tie up this with god-kid space magic though, Second attempt?

Also interesting....

Modifié par Flammenpanzer, 15 mars 2012 - 03:55 .

[wryan2011]

taviastrife wrote...

wryan2011 wrote...

I have this fear that even if this indoc theory is true the next dlc will have shepherd incapacitated while you take control of the british clock tower guy who 'finishes the fight' and is also the protagonist for the next set of mass effect games. ...or even worse, it's Vega who finishes the fight! That would be ...loco of Bioware I think.

Don't mind me, I think all this conspiracy theory is leading me down dark paths ; )

I'm afraid of this.  To me, that would such big time.  Technically, if this theory is true, Shepard didn't actually finish his/her story, beating the Reapers.  I want closure of the Reaper incident with SHEPARD, not someone else.

DX

I don't know if they'd do this, but for some reason it strikes me as possible.  I think we're atleast getting DLC for the British guy.  It would be cool if it was after we got ending DLC and it was about Anderson and him resisting the Reaper invasion before we arrive endgame.  I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[Samurai Wes]

i found this quote in this article http://kotaku.com/58...as-so-terrible/

"It feels like walking 100 miles to get lemonade only to get there and be told you can choose between a pair of shoes, some brass knuckles or a cheeseburger."

I found it funny so I had to share.

[taviastrife]

Evil_medved wrote...

Okay guys this is wild but think of it.

Imagine that whole scene near console is indeed truth, there was no TIM - thats indoctrination strikes Shepard right if front of Anderson. He never actually looks on TIM and only once he says "dont listen to HIM(harby?)" but thats about it. How about there are only two of them. Anderson says "They control you" "you are being indoctrinated" looking straight on Shepard/in camera. And Shepards shot does kill him.

Hmm...that's kind of an interesting take on it.  But, Shepard has a chance to talk down TIM, right?  Then, TIM shoots himself.

....Unless that's Shepard beating that initial attempt of Harby's indoctrination.  Then, you could say that the godchild was Harby's last major attempt.

Yet, the ending scene with Shepard in the rubble, taking a breath, would suggest that the Citadel scene didn't even happen in the first place.

[wryan2011]

Amialis666 wrote...

wryan2011 wrote...

I have this fear that even if this indoc theory is true the next dlc will have shepherd incapacitated while you take control of the british clock tower guy who 'finishes the fight' and is also the protagonist for the next set of mass effect games. ...or even worse, it's Vega who finishes the fight! That would be ...loco of Bioware I think.

Don't mind me, I think all this conspiracy theory is leading me down dark paths ; )

I can not see vega... Mass effect is all about creating our own character, and deciding their actions.

Vega is already created and has a set personality.
This would destroy the roleplaying as well as the interactive story part of things.

Unless bioware is deciding to get out of the genre they are known for...

As I think about it more, I feel better about them not going this route with a new game.  Mainly because where does that leave everybody who plays as a female character?  Would they consider it just for ending dlc?  We'll see

[Dessalines]

Evil_medved wrote...

Okay guys this is wild but think of it.

Imagine that whole scene near console is indeed truth, there was no TIM - thats indoctrination strikes Shepard right if front of Anderson. He never actually looks on TIM and only once he says "dont listen to HIM(harby?)" but thats about it. How about there are only two of them. Anderson says "They control you" "you are being indoctrinated" looking straight on Shepard/in camera. And Shepards shot does kill him.

Dunno how tie up this with god-kid space magic though, Second attempt?

Hmm, that is pretty good.  Doesn't explain how Anderson got the beam after they stated that everyone was decimated.