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[MJF JD]

fake pic is fake

[Nazoa]

TychoMonolith wrote...

Muezick wrote...

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

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MOTHER ****ING

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http://i39.tinypic.com/mhuiiv.jpg 

well, this about settles it.

Already been seen.... shawp'd

[Samurai Wes]

TychoMonolith wrote...

Muezick wrote...

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

DAT

MOTHER ****ING

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http://i39.tinypic.com/mhuiiv.jpg 

well, this about settles it.

This will keep poping up for a while I guess.  Proven to be fake.

[Amialis666]

wryan2011 wrote...

Amialis666 wrote...

wryan2011 wrote...

I have this fear that even if this indoc theory is true the next dlc will have shepherd incapacitated while you take control of the british clock tower guy who 'finishes the fight' and is also the protagonist for the next set of mass effect games. ...or even worse, it's Vega who finishes the fight! That would be ...loco of Bioware I think.

Don't mind me, I think all this conspiracy theory is leading me down dark paths ; )

I can not see vega... Mass effect is all about creating our own character, and deciding their actions.

Vega is already created and has a set personality.
This would destroy the roleplaying as well as the interactive story part of things.

Unless bioware is deciding to get out of the genre they are known for...

As I think about it more, I feel better about them not going this route with a new game.  Mainly because where does that leave everybody who plays as a female character?  Would they consider it just for ending dlc?  We'll see

I however could see them doing something like Dragon Age: Awakening, if you import a save with a dead warden you have to create a new one. If you import one with a living warden you can continue playing that character.

I could see them allowing you to finish the game with shepard if you chose destroy and survived. And if you failed that, having you either create a new character, or have you choose the gender and the new character never takes off their helm.

Maybe the first fight with a new character would be killing shepard, and in later games have them later deal with the guilt or the blame of killing the galaxies greatest hero. 

[OneWithTheAssassins]

Icinix wrote...

Flammenpanzer wrote...

squee365 wrote...

(awesome pics snipped)

Earth? Why would pictures of un-destroyed earth be in ending assets? With the jungle planet even?

That is what I am wondering...

Interesting - look like almost background textures....also remind me a little of the text epilogues we got at the end of DAO.

Remember that twiter where someone asked for a criptic clue and they replied with "The sun, it's shining"?
...Conecting the dots...

[Roll Equals Cute]

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

http://i.imgur.com/Y7zps.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cBw7j.jpg
"The sun, it's shining"

Huh. Good catch.

Maybe there's something to that #masseffect bot/geth/whatever after all.

[Dessalines]

On the Arrival DLC when you let the time run out, Shep has a vision of all his crew members and the IM in a building together. So there is your reference that Shep imagines weird stuff when he gets knocked out or dies.

[Tryptomine]

Disagree AlphaDormante's posts about the piles of bodies. It was heavily hinted (by Anderson especially) that the entire point of the Citadel teleporter beam was for the Reapers to shove the corpses through onto the Citadel where their hidden facilities on it would liquify them to another Reaper. In that context, it makes complete sense to have piles nearby awaiting transport. Any bad textures are simply that, not some conspiracy.

[Flammenpanzer]

TychoMonolith wrote...

Muezick wrote...

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

DAT

MOTHER ****ING

FILENAME.JPG



http://i39.tinypic.com/mhuiiv.jpg 

well, this about settles it.

Name is edited in. Proven false.


Also...the kid says "You have choice...more than you know"

Is there something on that level that we missed by any chance...?

"You have hope, more than you think..."

Modifié par Flammenpanzer, 15 mars 2012 - 04:11 .

[ArkkAngel007]

TychoMonolith wrote...

Muezick wrote...

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

DAT

MOTHER ****ING

FILENAME.JPG



http://i39.tinypic.com/mhuiiv.jpg 

well, this about settles it.

It's shopped.  We already confirmed it so. 

Edit:'d

Modifié par ArkkAngel007, 15 mars 2012 - 04:10 .

[People4Peace]

Amialis666 wrote...

wryan2011 wrote...

Amialis666 wrote...

wryan2011 wrote...

I have this fear that even if this indoc theory is true the next dlc will have shepherd incapacitated while you take control of the british clock tower guy who 'finishes the fight' and is also the protagonist for the next set of mass effect games. ...or even worse, it's Vega who finishes the fight! That would be ...loco of Bioware I think.

Don't mind me, I think all this conspiracy theory is leading me down dark paths ; )

I can not see vega... Mass effect is all about creating our own character, and deciding their actions.

Vega is already created and has a set personality.
This would destroy the roleplaying as well as the interactive story part of things.

Unless bioware is deciding to get out of the genre they are known for...

As I think about it more, I feel better about them not going this route with a new game.  Mainly because where does that leave everybody who plays as a female character?  Would they consider it just for ending dlc?  We'll see

I however could see them doing something like Dragon Age: Awakening, if you import a save with a dead warden you have to create a new one. If you import one with a living warden you can continue playing that character.

I could see them allowing you to finish the game with shepard if you chose destroy and survived. And if you failed that, having you either create a new character, or have you choose the gender and the new character never takes off their helm.

Maybe the first fight with a new character would be killing shepard, and in later games have them later deal with the guilt or the blame of killing the galaxies greatest hero. 

I agree with everything you said except the last part. If Shep is died, perhaps an Alliance soldier takes over - either to defeat the Reapers (which I doubt) or to go save the Normandy and her crew...plus a few other missions like rebuilding Earth or destroying what is left of any enemies?

If Shep is alive, you obviously just continue from there. Bioware would never let another, possibly random character murder Shep. I just don't see this happening.

[Nazoa]

I'm loving how this theory is coming along, and I have something to add, that I don't believe has been said, though admittedly I haven't read every page.

Many people ask why the hell the god-child talks about synthetics (reapers) destroying organics so that synthetics cannot rise up. Thus preventing "chaos".

This could be a nonsense argument that only makes sense because Shepard is indoctrinated, OR it could be a twist of the truth.

What if the Reapers were the first synthetics ever created, by a civilization that grew very advanced? They then became self-aware, realized they were superior to their creators, then overthrew them. They now kill off organics after a certain amount of time, because they fear that another race of self-aware synthetics will rise up to challenge them.

SO to hold their dominance, they wipe out all advanced organic life before they can advance far enough to create synthetics to challenge the reapers.

Thoughts?

[Rifneno]

Somebody needs to find whoever made that fake Harbinger pic and stick him on a dragon's tooth.

[wryan2011]

Amialis666 wrote...

wryan2011 wrote...

Amialis666 wrote...

wryan2011 wrote...

I have this fear that even if this indoc theory is true the next dlc will have shepherd incapacitated while you take control of the british clock tower guy who 'finishes the fight' and is also the protagonist for the next set of mass effect games. ...or even worse, it's Vega who finishes the fight! That would be ...loco of Bioware I think.

Don't mind me, I think all this conspiracy theory is leading me down dark paths ; )

I can not see vega... Mass effect is all about creating our own character, and deciding their actions.

Vega is already created and has a set personality.
This would destroy the roleplaying as well as the interactive story part of things.

Unless bioware is deciding to get out of the genre they are known for...

As I think about it more, I feel better about them not going this route with a new game.  Mainly because where does that leave everybody who plays as a female character?  Would they consider it just for ending dlc?  We'll see

I however could see them doing something like Dragon Age: Awakening, if you import a save with a dead warden you have to create a new one. If you import one with a living warden you can continue playing that character.

I could see them allowing you to finish the game with shepard if you chose destroy and survived. And if you failed that, having you either create a new character, or have you choose the gender and the new character never takes off their helm.

Maybe the first fight with a new character would be killing shepard, and in later games have them later deal with the guilt or the blame of killing the galaxies greatest hero. 

hmmm possibly.  With all the backlash I'm wondering if they'd give you another way as Shep to fight off the indoctrination in the dlc if you chose wrong.  

It would be interesting in the sense that if you chose Synth or Control your new character would be the main protagonist for the next game like you said.  If you chose destroy you play the endgame as Shep, but when the next Mass Effect game comes around and you make your character they could have being a soldier in London during that battle as part of your canon history regardless of how you finished the game.  Good thoughts!  

[Dessalines]

Flammenpanzer wrote...

TychoMonolith wrote...

Muezick wrote...

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

DAT

MOTHER ****ING

FILENAME.JPG



http://i39.tinypic.com/mhuiiv.jpg 

well, this about settles it.

Name is edited in. Proven false.


Also...the kid says "You have choice...more than you know"

Is there something on that level that we missed by any chance...?

"You have hope, more than you think..."

His comments change. He tells some people that you have a choice more than you deserve.

[acidic-ph0]

Nabbed from Jessica Merizan's twitter

http://i4.photobucke...un/bestblue.jpg

Just in case the endings are real XD Well... this is one way to continue the franchise I guess.

[Icinix]

Nazoa wrote...

I'm loving how this theory is coming along, and I have something to add, that I don't believe has been said, though admittedly I haven't read every page.

Many people ask why the hell the god-child talks about synthetics (reapers) destroying organics so that synthetics cannot rise up. Thus preventing "chaos".

This could be a nonsense argument that only makes sense because Shepard is indoctrinated, OR it could be a twist of the truth.

What if the Reapers were the first synthetics ever created, by a civilization that grew very advanced? They then became self-aware, realized they were superior to their creators, then overthrew them. They now kill off organics after a certain amount of time, because they fear that another race of self-aware synthetics will rise up to challenge them.

SO to hold their dominance, they wipe out all advanced organic life before they can advance far enough to create synthetics to challenge the reapers.

Thoughts?

I like this theory. I haven' t seen this before.

So what the Reapers are saying is a part truth. In their own way they are saving Organic life from being totally dominated by synthetic life, but still remaining the dominant power in the galaxy.

Edit: And it fits with the whole Singularity thing too. Lets say they had one overriding code that couldn't be altered - "Protect Organic Life" - in their way they're upholding that like in I, Robot - they're interpretation of it is altered however.

Modifié par Icinix, 15 mars 2012 - 04:15 .

[keith123456789]

acidic-ph0 wrote...

Nabbed from Jessica Merizan's twitter

http://i4.photobucke...un/bestblue.jpg

Just in case the endings are real XD Well... this is one way to continue the franchise I guess.

Well Played Sir 5 stars

[LenabotSE]

While anything in the supposed hallucination is suspect, the kid mentioned that the Crucible "gave them new possibilities." Thinking again on that, perhaps the Reapers can use the Crucible for their own plans, thus why they wanted Shepard to get it up, working, and activated? As they saw fit?

The Crucible could only be completed with massive help, and the galaxy would have never worked together until the Reapers were actually attacking. A big space-alien xanatos gambit?

[taviastrife]

You know...if this theory is correct, we never really got to see what the Crucible was capable of. Like what it actually does to the Reapers. Any thoughts on what it would do?

To me, it could be a type of EMP blast that's registered directly to Reaper signatures. Haha, that's probably way off, but you never know~

[keith123456789]

As Long as the next mass effect has liara and not a horribly depressing ending ill play it Liara All the way. will not take her from shepered though

[Amialis666]

People4Peace wrote...

Amialis666 wrote...

wryan2011 wrote...

Amialis666 wrote...

wryan2011 wrote...

I have this fear that even if this indoc theory is true the next dlc will have shepherd incapacitated while you take control of the british clock tower guy who 'finishes the fight' and is also the protagonist for the next set of mass effect games. ...or even worse, it's Vega who finishes the fight! That would be ...loco of Bioware I think.

Don't mind me, I think all this conspiracy theory is leading me down dark paths ; )

I can not see vega... Mass effect is all about creating our own character, and deciding their actions.

Vega is already created and has a set personality.
This would destroy the roleplaying as well as the interactive story part of things.

Unless bioware is deciding to get out of the genre they are known for...

As I think about it more, I feel better about them not going this route with a new game.  Mainly because where does that leave everybody who plays as a female character?  Would they consider it just for ending dlc?  We'll see

I however could see them doing something like Dragon Age: Awakening, if you import a save with a dead warden you have to create a new one. If you import one with a living warden you can continue playing that character.

I could see them allowing you to finish the game with shepard if you chose destroy and survived. And if you failed that, having you either create a new character, or have you choose the gender and the new character never takes off their helm.

Maybe the first fight with a new character would be killing shepard, and in later games have them later deal with the guilt or the blame of killing the galaxies greatest hero. 

I agree with everything you said except the last part. If Shep is died, perhaps an Alliance soldier takes over - either to defeat the Reapers (which I doubt) or to go save the Normandy and her crew...plus a few other missions like rebuilding Earth or destroying what is left of any enemies?

If Shep is alive, you obviously just continue from there. Bioware would never let another, possibly random character murder Shep. I just don't see this happening.

I doubt it would happen.

And I am not saying murdered, I am saying if he is indoctrinated, it could be a possibility.
Maybe make that the first choice... paragon let them live and watch them run off, or renegade kill him. (Though to me killing them would be kinder than letting them live as a husk.)

Playing SWTOR has taught me bioware has no quams about killing off main characters in humilating ways....

[Mallissin]

taviastrife wrote...

Evil_medved wrote...

Okay guys this is wild but think of it.

Imagine that whole scene near console is indeed truth, there was no TIM - thats indoctrination strikes Shepard right if front of Anderson. He never actually looks on TIM and only once he says "dont listen to HIM(harby?)" but thats about it. How about there are only two of them. Anderson says "They control you" "you are being indoctrinated" looking straight on Shepard/in camera. And Shepards shot does kill him.

Hmm...that's kind of an interesting take on it.  But, Shepard has a chance to talk down TIM, right?  Then, TIM shoots himself.

....Unless that's Shepard beating that initial attempt of Harby's indoctrination.  Then, you could say that the godchild was Harby's last major attempt.

Yet, the ending scene with Shepard in the rubble, taking a breath, would suggest that the Citadel scene didn't even happen in the first place.

I still think everything after being struck by Harbinger's weapon is an indoctrination hallucination between Harbinger, TIM and you, probably using TIM's technology that Harbinger aquired when TIM became his proxy (like Saren).

So, none of it happened in reality. Shepard is actually laying somewhere knocked out by the energy attack while fighting the mind game.

The three choices represent his prize for beating the indoctrination. For instance, Destroy (the only or easiest choice) makes Harbinger blow up, Control (middle difficulty) makes Harbinger start firing at the other Reapers, and Synthesis (hardest but always good) will let you read Harbinger's mind to understand their true motivations (a quick movie explaining Reaper Origins, Dark Matter problem, etc,  you explore later).

When you wake after the hallucination, you and your team run into the beam to get onto the Citadel and figure out how to get the Crucible to work (and find the real Conduit). Hopefully presented with one last huge battle (with old teammates popping in and out of the battle as they flood the Citadel to help) and presented with the ultimate decision on how to use the Crucible after you understand all the issues.

I'm betting the Crucible is a weapon that exacerbates the dark energy problems, so as we fight the Reapers with it we need to figure out how to stop the use of all the Mass Effect cores, relays, etc., from destroying the galaxy while we confront the Reapers.

[Evil_medved]

Nazoa wrote...

I'm loving how this theory is coming along, and I have something to add, that I don't believe has been said, though admittedly I haven't read every page.

Many people ask why the hell the god-child talks about synthetics (reapers) destroying organics so that synthetics cannot rise up. Thus preventing "chaos".

This could be a nonsense argument that only makes sense because Shepard is indoctrinated, OR it could be a twist of the truth.

What if the Reapers were the first synthetics ever created, by a civilization that grew very advanced? They then became self-aware, realized they were superior to their creators, then overthrew them. They now kill off organics after a certain amount of time, because they fear that another race of self-aware synthetics will rise up to challenge them.

SO to hold their dominance, they wipe out all advanced organic life before they can advance far enough to create synthetics to challenge the reapers.

Thoughts?

They can keep synthetics in check a lot more efficiently and without genocides. Codex states that Reaper know everything about organic races and thus they have extreamly efficient recon. They can find signs of rising sythetic life and whipe it out before it rises. Thye could  bomb all Geth into the dust, and nobody would even notice, with them being quiet for 300 years, and yet they didnt.

[Nazoa]

Icinix wrote...

Nazoa wrote...

I'm loving how this theory is coming along, and I have something to add, that I don't believe has been said, though admittedly I haven't read every page.

Many people ask why the hell the god-child talks about synthetics (reapers) destroying organics so that synthetics cannot rise up. Thus preventing "chaos".

This could be a nonsense argument that only makes sense because Shepard is indoctrinated, OR it could be a twist of the truth.

What if the Reapers were the first synthetics ever created, by a civilization that grew very advanced? They then became self-aware, realized they were superior to their creators, then overthrew them. They now kill off organics after a certain amount of time, because they fear that another race of self-aware synthetics will rise up to challenge them.

SO to hold their dominance, they wipe out all advanced organic life before they can advance far enough to create synthetics to challenge the reapers.

Thoughts?

I like this theory. I haven' t seen this before.

So what the Reapers are saying is a part truth. In their own way they are saving Organic life from being totally dominated by synthetic life, but still remaining the dominant power in the galaxy.

Edit: And it fits with the whole Singularity thing too. Lets say they had one overriding code that couldn't be altered - "Protect Organic Life" - in their way they're upholding that like in I, Robot - they're interpretation of it is altered however.

Exactly. If you did the Geth Consensus mission, Shepard sees that the geth allowed the Quarians to leave Rannoch, because they had no desire to commit genocide, it was just self-preservation. Once they got their own asses covered, they can go chill out for 50k years in dark space.