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slydfoxxy wrote...

byne wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

Little Lummo wrote...

Last night i also tweeted Jessica Merizan asking about the message you get on your datapad app from either Kaidan/Ash and what it could mean... And she didn't reply, when she has replied to all my other tweets to her.

It may be a glitch as others have said, but if it was at the start, it totally does not fit in with the rest of it, perhaps the glitch was that you were supposed to get it at the end, instead it gave it to some people at the beginning.

I still find this to be a strong piece of evidence IMO


which message is this? I finished my game and i didnt get anything further from anybody :(


Supposedly some people have gotten a message from Ash saying the Doctors might allow her to see Shep that day, and telling Shep to hang in there after beating the game.


I thought that was one gotten at the start, during the first cut scenes, or that ist was from when they were in the hopsital. ive seen it around. must investigate.


Cant find an Ash one, but here is a Kaidan one i found on Tumblr, which somebody got after they beat the game on the destroy ending and they lived.

tumblr_m0w5d5vu1l1r5v6m0o1_500.png

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byne wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

Flavius_Costa wrote...

Guys, one more thing i realized now... the secret ending,,, Th e Stargazer.... What's the man that all trought mass effect 2 IS a STAR GAZER??? OMG, it's TIM... the Illusive Man, always gazing a star, now, pay atention the way the old man speaks,,, guys... it IS the Illusive Man...


Martin Sheen can voice act his way around that guy 500 times then proceed to verbally rape him with his awesome voice.



....It's Buzz Aldrin.


Being an astronaut does not make one a good actor


There's a video of Buzz Aldrin on youtube punching a reporter.  Yes, I'm serious.

Edit: Well more of a sleazy documentary maker than a reporter probably.

Modifié par Dap Brannigan, 15 mars 2012 - 06:30 .


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1490 wrote...

Just thought of this, maybe it's a huge stretch but I'll say it anyway:

Shepard is very much a Jesus figure: the savior of humanity, sacrificing his life to save everyone. According to Dante's model, Jesus went through hell, then purgatory, and then into heaven after he died, and good people who go to heaven follow him in this model when they die. When Shepard first enters the "Citadel," it is dark red with bodies everywhere: Hell. When he is between floors with TIM and Anderson, where he is in stalemate,he is in Purgatory. Then, he passes out and ASCENDS to a bright, open area with a child of light: Heaven. It is very symbolic and almost unrealistic in that sense. You could go on to say the Reapers are playing to Shepard's understanding about what heaven, hell, and apotheosis are, trying to appeal to his desire to be a "Savior", also evidence that the "destruction" choice is shown to have the worst effects, and is highlighted in red.

Anyway, just throwing it out there.


I've been saying this for a while. But I agree with you, your right on track, especially with Dante's account of Jesus' trip through Hell and purgatory. Fits right in with the Indoctrination theory.

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The Stargazer is voiced by Buzz Aldrin, that's just his voice.

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no guys, you don't get it, it's not sheen, i know, i talking about the WAY he speaks, pay atention, compare the way the ilusive speaks, and the Tim's room in front of a star... always looking to it... he is the Stargazer... it's somehow, a clue...

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mr.surv wrote...

Flammenpanzer wrote...

mr.surv wrote...

mr.surv wrote...

Flammenpanzer wrote...

Interesting note here.....Mass Effect 3 Disc 1 and 2 combined is 14gb.... (13.89gb)


This
Annnd 13.89GB is when we try to repair game, then it's 10GB.

I bet this 4GB are going to be decoded !


Okay, anyone want to help sift through the data on the discs? I'm seeing what I can find...

edit: What doesn't belong? XD



I already lurked all the files on discs and found nothing.
I think undecoded files are on disc 1 in package but I don't know how I can open it since it's not rar file.


Quoting you again...because winrar is attempting to open it, its reading the file archives....  **hopes**
It is taking a damn long time though.

edit: Currently its read 6,000 files.

Modifié par Flammenpanzer, 15 mars 2012 - 06:32 .


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byne wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

Flavius_Costa wrote...

Guys, one more thing i realized now... the secret ending,,, Th e Stargazer.... What's the man that all trought mass effect 2 IS a STAR GAZER??? OMG, it's TIM... the Illusive Man, always gazing a star, now, pay atention the way the old man speaks,,, guys... it IS the Illusive Man...


Martin Sheen can voice act his way around that guy 500 times then proceed to verbally rape him with his awesome voice.



....It's Buzz Aldrin.


Being an astronaut does not make one a good actor


I never said it did, I was merely stating the fact that it wasn't Matrin Sheen or TIM.

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Dap Brannigan wrote...

byne wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

Flavius_Costa wrote...

Guys, one more thing i realized now... the secret ending,,, Th e Stargazer.... What's the man that all trought mass effect 2 IS a STAR GAZER??? OMG, it's TIM... the Illusive Man, always gazing a star, now, pay atention the way the old man speaks,,, guys... it IS the Illusive Man...


Martin Sheen can voice act his way around that guy 500 times then proceed to verbally rape him with his awesome voice.



....It's Buzz Aldrin.


Being an astronaut does not make one a good actor


There's a video of Buzz Aldrin on youtube punching a reporter.  Yes, I'm serious.

Edit: Well more of a sleazy documentary maker than a reporter probably.


Punching someone in the face does not make one a good actor either.


I'm not saying Buzz isnt awesome, because he is. Just saying he isnt a good actor.

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byne wrote...

Dap Brannigan wrote...

byne wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

Flavius_Costa wrote...

Guys, one more thing i realized now... the secret ending,,, Th e Stargazer.... What's the man that all trought mass effect 2 IS a STAR GAZER??? OMG, it's TIM... the Illusive Man, always gazing a star, now, pay atention the way the old man speaks,,, guys... it IS the Illusive Man...


Martin Sheen can voice act his way around that guy 500 times then proceed to verbally rape him with his awesome voice.



....It's Buzz Aldrin.


Being an astronaut does not make one a good actor


There's a video of Buzz Aldrin on youtube punching a reporter.  Yes, I'm serious.

Edit: Well more of a sleazy documentary maker than a reporter probably.


Punching someone in the face does not make one a good actor either.


I'm not saying Buzz isnt awesome, because he is. Just saying he isnt a good actor.


It was a joke.  Buzz punched a reporter.  Commander Shepard also has a record of duffing reporters in the face.

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Flammenpanzer wrote...

mr.surv wrote...

Nazoa wrote...

Dap Brannigan wrote...

This has probably been mentioned before, but the PC CE game box says you need "at least 15GB" of space. Mass Effect 3 only takes up 11.2 GB in my Origin Games folder right now.



Maybe Bioware thought we would make hundreds of saves?:P




My is 10GB.
It depends of language I think.

But still it's strange that when you right click on game in origin and chose "repair" theres a 13.8GB download appear for short time and then it changes to 10 GB.


Even if game need some GB for cache/temp files, 5 GB is too big for this.
????


My hope is that it reads 13.8gb from Origin's server, and then does a check for which files it is allowed to download....

Edit: If there is another ending...I wonder if we can fool Origin into downloading the files :bandit:

yes, but Kai Leng would probably come and kill you with a tooth brush, after eating your cereal of course.

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byne wrote...

Dap Brannigan wrote...

byne wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

Flavius_Costa wrote...

Guys, one more thing i realized now... the secret ending,,, Th e Stargazer.... What's the man that all trought mass effect 2 IS a STAR GAZER??? OMG, it's TIM... the Illusive Man, always gazing a star, now, pay atention the way the old man speaks,,, guys... it IS the Illusive Man...


Martin Sheen can voice act his way around that guy 500 times then proceed to verbally rape him with his awesome voice.



....It's Buzz Aldrin.


Being an astronaut does not make one a good actor


There's a video of Buzz Aldrin on youtube punching a reporter.  Yes, I'm serious.

Edit: Well more of a sleazy documentary maker than a reporter probably.


Punching someone in the face does not make one a good actor either.


I'm not saying Buzz isnt awesome, because he is. Just saying he isnt a good actor.


Come on guys we were just stating that it wasn't Martin Sheen speaking, but Buzz Aldrin.

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Little Lummo wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

byne wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

Little Lummo wrote...

Last night i also tweeted Jessica Merizan asking about the message you get on your datapad app from either Kaidan/Ash and what it could mean... And she didn't reply, when she has replied to all my other tweets to her.

It may be a glitch as others have said, but if it was at the start, it totally does not fit in with the rest of it, perhaps the glitch was that you were supposed to get it at the end, instead it gave it to some people at the beginning.

I still find this to be a strong piece of evidence IMO


which message is this? I finished my game and i didnt get anything further from anybody :(


Supposedly some people have gotten a message from Ash saying the Doctors might allow her to see Shep that day, and telling Shep to hang in there after beating the game.


I thought that was one gotten at the start, during the first cut scenes, or that ist was from when they were in the hopsital. ive seen it around. must investigate.


Cant find an Ash one, but here is a Kaidan one i found on Tumblr, which somebody got after they beat the game on the destroy ending and they lived.

tumblr_m0w5d5vu1l1r5v6m0o1_500.png



yeah I do remember seeing that one, I never got it so maybe it was a glitch? I might start a new game and see if it comes at some point during the gameplay, because it doesnt seem like something they would send to you if you were unconscious in a hospital or something lol.

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It's also pretty obvious that Bioware didn't enlist Buzz Aldrin to voice Stargazer based on his voice talent. He's the second man on the moon. This is a space-faring sci-fi series.  It's an Easter Egg cameo for ****s and giggles.

Modifié par Dap Brannigan, 15 mars 2012 - 06:35 .


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slydfoxxy wrote...

byne wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

Flavius_Costa wrote...

Guys, one more thing i realized now... the secret ending,,, Th e Stargazer.... What's the man that all trought mass effect 2 IS a STAR GAZER??? OMG, it's TIM... the Illusive Man, always gazing a star, now, pay atention the way the old man speaks,,, guys... it IS the Illusive Man...


Martin Sheen can voice act his way around that guy 500 times then proceed to verbally rape him with his awesome voice.



....It's Buzz Aldrin.


Being an astronaut does not make one a good actor


I never said it did, I was merely stating the fact that it wasn't Matrin Sheen or TIM.



the fact that he's not voiced by sheen don't make the stargazer wasn't tim a fact... 

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I am sorry if this has been mentioned... I've tried to follow this thread but come on... 518 pages?

Ok, that's kind of awesome.


Anyway, I was going through the movies folder, and I found this video:
End03_Shepard_Alive_Fem (and _Male)

..Just thought I'd throw that out there, that it's the rubble scene, where everyone pretty much assumed it was Shep living, and... well... you know. Now there's a title to the movie, and we know it's definitely Shep. And S/he's definitely alive.

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slydfoxxy wrote...

Little Lummo wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

byne wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

Little Lummo wrote...

Last night i also tweeted Jessica Merizan asking about the message you get on your datapad app from either Kaidan/Ash and what it could mean... And she didn't reply, when she has replied to all my other tweets to her.

It may be a glitch as others have said, but if it was at the start, it totally does not fit in with the rest of it, perhaps the glitch was that you were supposed to get it at the end, instead it gave it to some people at the beginning.

I still find this to be a strong piece of evidence IMO


which message is this? I finished my game and i didnt get anything further from anybody :(


Supposedly some people have gotten a message from Ash saying the Doctors might allow her to see Shep that day, and telling Shep to hang in there after beating the game.


I thought that was one gotten at the start, during the first cut scenes, or that ist was from when they were in the hopsital. ive seen it around. must investigate.


Cant find an Ash one, but here is a Kaidan one i found on Tumblr, which somebody got after they beat the game on the destroy ending and they lived.

tumblr_m0w5d5vu1l1r5v6m0o1_500.png



yeah I do remember seeing that one, I never got it so maybe it was a glitch? I might start a new game and see if it comes at some point during the gameplay, because it doesnt seem like something they would send to you if you were unconscious in a hospital or something lol.


It's strange, i started a new game and i didn't get it at the start either, i'm gonna see if i get it at the end of this playthrough...

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I'm very dissapointed of the ends, I wanted to know what happend to my romance partner, to my friends, with the rest of the planets, wanted to see them celebrating the reapers deaths, etc.

But instead, I had a SSV normandy crashes some place unknow, and for unknown reasons.....

And I feel like, if all the desicions I have made in the three games were for nothing.

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slydfoxxy wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

Flavius_Costa wrote...

Guys, one more thing i realized now... the secret ending,,, Th e Stargazer.... What's the man that all trought mass effect 2 IS a STAR GAZER??? OMG, it's TIM... the Illusive Man, always gazing a star, now, pay atention the way the old man speaks,,, guys... it IS the Illusive Man...


Martin Sheen can voice act his way around that guy 500 times then proceed to verbally rape him with his awesome voice.



....It's Buzz Aldrin.


And? Still a rubbish voice actor, despite his awesome achievments.:o

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Flavius_Costa wrote...

no guys, you don't get it, it's not sheen, i know, i talking about the WAY he speaks, pay atention, compare the way the ilusive speaks, and the Tim's room in front of a star... always looking to it... he is the Stargazer... it's somehow, a clue...


NOPE!...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJP1DphOWPs

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byne wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

Flavius_Costa wrote...

Guys, one more thing i realized now... the secret ending,,, Th e Stargazer.... What's the man that all trought mass effect 2 IS a STAR GAZER??? OMG, it's TIM... the Illusive Man, always gazing a star, now, pay atention the way the old man speaks,,, guys... it IS the Illusive Man...


Martin Sheen can voice act his way around that guy 500 times then proceed to verbally rape him with his awesome voice.



....It's Buzz Aldrin.


Being an astronaut does not make one a good actor

I view it as more of a little "Hey, it's Buzz Aldrin, an astronaut :wizard:" treat than supposed to be good voice acting.

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Little Lummo wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

Little Lummo wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

byne wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

Little Lummo wrote...

Last night i also tweeted Jessica Merizan asking about the message you get on your datapad app from either Kaidan/Ash and what it could mean... And she didn't reply, when she has replied to all my other tweets to her.

It may be a glitch as others have said, but if it was at the start, it totally does not fit in with the rest of it, perhaps the glitch was that you were supposed to get it at the end, instead it gave it to some people at the beginning.

I still find this to be a strong piece of evidence IMO


which message is this? I finished my game and i didnt get anything further from anybody :(


Supposedly some people have gotten a message from Ash saying the Doctors might allow her to see Shep that day, and telling Shep to hang in there after beating the game.


I thought that was one gotten at the start, during the first cut scenes, or that ist was from when they were in the hopsital. ive seen it around. must investigate.


Cant find an Ash one, but here is a Kaidan one i found on Tumblr, which somebody got after they beat the game on the destroy ending and they lived.

tumblr_m0w5d5vu1l1r5v6m0o1_500.png



yeah I do remember seeing that one, I never got it so maybe it was a glitch? I might start a new game and see if it comes at some point during the gameplay, because it doesnt seem like something they would send to you if you were unconscious in a hospital or something lol.


It's strange, i started a new game and i didn't get it at the start either, i'm gonna see if i get it at the end of this playthrough...


It probably thinks kaiden is still in the hospital.
Though shep would be in real bad shape after that hit by Harbinger.

Modifié par t1striker, 15 mars 2012 - 06:39 .


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Flavius_Costa wrote...


the fact that he's not voiced by sheen don't make the stargazer wasn't tim a fact... 


I don't see how it could be, because if those ending 'were' true then TIM would be dead, and even if it 'was' him, why would he paint himself as the bad guy?

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Disc 1 has nothing special on it, it has 2gb of extra data for international speech files.... :(

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That's my of the thing that keeps up my hope for a continued ending (Shepard breathing scene). I don't understand why it would even happen unless something would happen afterwards.

...or, you can just use your imagination!

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Can someone explain to me why the "stargazer" doesn't have space flight? Ive been thinking about it for a while an i don't know