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#12976
Iam2ugly

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Little Lummo wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

Little Lummo wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

byne wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

Little Lummo wrote...

Last night i also tweeted Jessica Merizan asking about the message you get on your datapad app from either Kaidan/Ash and what it could mean... And she didn't reply, when she has replied to all my other tweets to her.

It may be a glitch as others have said, but if it was at the start, it totally does not fit in with the rest of it, perhaps the glitch was that you were supposed to get it at the end, instead it gave it to some people at the beginning.

I still find this to be a strong piece of evidence IMO


which message is this? I finished my game and i didnt get anything further from anybody :(


Supposedly some people have gotten a message from Ash saying the Doctors might allow her to see Shep that day, and telling Shep to hang in there after beating the game.


I thought that was one gotten at the start, during the first cut scenes, or that ist was from when they were in the hopsital. ive seen it around. must investigate.


Cant find an Ash one, but here is a Kaidan one i found on Tumblr, which somebody got after they beat the game on the destroy ending and they lived.

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yeah I do remember seeing that one, I never got it so maybe it was a glitch? I might start a new game and see if it comes at some point during the gameplay, because it doesnt seem like something they would send to you if you were unconscious in a hospital or something lol.


It's strange, i started a new game and i didn't get it at the start either, i'm gonna see if i get it at the end of this playthrough...


It's a message you get when you finished ME 3 with destory ending, if shep is seeing taking a breathe. You get that msg from Ahs/Kaidan/not sure about Liara(didn't saw one, but some say so)

and... You get this info ONLY by having an APP(http://www.eurogamer...os-app-now-live) in your iPhone or iPad.

Why there is no android app? ;( <sad>

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Flammenpanzer wrote...

Disc 1 has nothing special on it, it has 2gb of extra data for international speech files.... :(


Damn theres the extra disc space goodbye to that idea future dlc now.
Thought it was a bit far fetched any way

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Now I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before but I read some of the descriptions in the CE artbook and I looked back and saw this description about TIM:

"One of the plans on the drawing board was to have the Illusive Man turn into a Reaper creature for the final battle.  Eventually, this plan was scrapped, since we wanted to give players the satisfaction of fighting a chararacter they know rather than a random creature.  The design implies that the Illusive Man's weapon is his intelligence, not his physical strength."

Now if I remember, there was no final battle like how there was at the end of ME1 and ME2,  not unless they meant Kai Leng's battle being the final battle.  Now why scrap the idea if there is no final battle at the so-called end of ME3?  This gives me more reason to believe there is more to come and we must wait.  What do you guys think?

#12979
Flammenpanzer

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t1striker wrote...

Flammenpanzer wrote...

Disc 1 has nothing special on it, it has 2gb of extra data for international speech files.... :(


Damn theres the extra disc space goodbye to that idea future dlc now.
Thought it was a bit far fetched any way


Yeah, I just buzz-killed myself :/ Damn Italian and French audio files!!!

edit: what surprises me is duplicates on Disc 1 and 2 though...

Modifié par Flammenpanzer, 15 mars 2012 - 06:46 .


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Recon911PDW wrote...

Now I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before but I read some of the descriptions in the CE artbook and I looked back and saw this description about TIM:

"One of the plans on the drawing board was to have the Illusive Man turn into a Reaper creature for the final battle.  Eventually, this plan was scrapped, since we wanted to give players the satisfaction of fighting a chararacter they know rather than a random creature.  The design implies that the Illusive Man's weapon is his intelligence, not his physical strength."

Now if I remember, there was no final battle like how there was at the end of ME1 and ME2,  not unless they meant Kai Leng's battle being the final battle.  Now why scrap the idea if there is no final battle at the so-called end of ME3?  This gives me more reason to believe there is more to come and we must wait.  What do you guys think?


Final battle could have been with TIM through intelligence and mental strength. That's been the assumption anyway. 

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Buzz Aldrin has totally got to be the inspiration behind Shepard punching that reporter...

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if ya dont punch her she is a war asset lol, 10 pts i think

#12983
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Iam2ugly wrote...

Little Lummo wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

Little Lummo wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

byne wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

Little Lummo wrote...

Last night i also tweeted Jessica Merizan asking about the message you get on your datapad app from either Kaidan/Ash and what it could mean... And she didn't reply, when she has replied to all my other tweets to her.

It may be a glitch as others have said, but if it was at the start, it totally does not fit in with the rest of it, perhaps the glitch was that you were supposed to get it at the end, instead it gave it to some people at the beginning.

I still find this to be a strong piece of evidence IMO


which message is this? I finished my game and i didnt get anything further from anybody :(


Supposedly some people have gotten a message from Ash saying the Doctors might allow her to see Shep that day, and telling Shep to hang in there after beating the game.


I thought that was one gotten at the start, during the first cut scenes, or that ist was from when they were in the hopsital. ive seen it around. must investigate.


Cant find an Ash one, but here is a Kaidan one i found on Tumblr, which somebody got after they beat the game on the destroy ending and they lived.

tumblr_m0w5d5vu1l1r5v6m0o1_500.png



yeah I do remember seeing that one, I never got it so maybe it was a glitch? I might start a new game and see if it comes at some point during the gameplay, because it doesnt seem like something they would send to you if you were unconscious in a hospital or something lol.


It's strange, i started a new game and i didn't get it at the start either, i'm gonna see if i get it at the end of this playthrough...


It's a message you get when you finished ME 3 with destory ending, if shep is seeing taking a breathe. You get that msg from Ahs/Kaidan/not sure about Liara(didn't saw one, but some say so)

and... You get this info ONLY by having an APP(http://www.eurogamer...os-app-now-live) in your iPhone or iPad.

Why there is no android app? ;( <sad>


someone speculated that depending on what your war assets are, it will determine what kind of shape you're in at the very end. i thought that would be kinda cool.

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UKillMeLongTime wrote...

if ya dont punch her she is a war asset lol, 10 pts i think



What?  She's worth more than ALLERS?  BWAHAHA.

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UKillMeLongTime wrote...

if ya dont punch her she is a war asset lol, 10 pts i think


not worth it, punching her is a much better reward.

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Hi there, wasn't around the last 8 hours. Did I miss something?

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Pyewacket wrote...

UKillMeLongTime wrote...

if ya dont punch her she is a war asset lol, 10 pts i think



What?  She's worth more than ALLERS?  BWAHAHA.


Sadly no...

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Iam2ugly wrote...

It's a message you get when you finished ME 3 with destory ending, if shep is seeing taking a breathe. You get that msg from Ahs/Kaidan/not sure about Liara(didn't saw one, but some say so)

and... You get this info ONLY by having an APP(http://www.eurogamer...os-app-now-live) in your iPhone or iPad.

Why there is no android app? ;( <sad>


Thing is I DID the destroy ending and I had 5363 EMS and I DID get the shepard breathing bit, and I DO havw the datapad app, so its either glitching in it doesnt send to everyone, or it doesnt go there. IDK...

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Recon911PDW wrote...

Now I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before but I read some of the descriptions in the CE artbook and I looked back and saw this description about TIM:

"One of the plans on the drawing board was to have the Illusive Man turn into a Reaper creature for the final battle.  Eventually, this plan was scrapped, since we wanted to give players the satisfaction of fighting a chararacter they know rather than a random creature.  The design implies that the Illusive Man's weapon is his intelligence, not his physical strength."

Now if I remember, there was no final battle like how there was at the end of ME1 and ME2,  not unless they meant Kai Leng's battle being the final battle.  Now why scrap the idea if there is no final battle at the so-called end of ME3?  This gives me more reason to believe there is more to come and we must wait.  What do you guys think?


Their meaning was that the final battle was one of words, and not just turning him into a reaper.

#12990
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SalinValu wrote...

Pyewacket wrote...

UKillMeLongTime wrote...

if ya dont punch her she is a war asset lol, 10 pts i think



What?  She's worth more than ALLERS?  BWAHAHA.


Sadly no...



According to the wiki she is indeed worth more than Allers.

I think the only thing worth less than Allers is Conrad Verner's doctoral dissertation.

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variobunz wrote...

Hi there, wasn't around the last 8 hours. Did I miss something?


You missed:

Oooh. PC discs have 14.8gb of data on them..(install is 10gb)

Atleast 2gb of that is different language audio though :pinched:

Opps, 2.7gb is extra language. Each additional language is 900mb...

So Deutsch, French, International (english), and Italian.

Leaves only 1gb in unaccounted files.

Modifié par Flammenpanzer, 15 mars 2012 - 06:59 .


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slydfoxxy wrote...

Iam2ugly wrote...

It's a message you get when you finished ME 3 with destory ending, if shep is seeing taking a breathe. You get that msg from Ahs/Kaidan/not sure about Liara(didn't saw one, but some say so)

and... You get this info ONLY by having an APP(http://www.eurogamer...os-app-now-live) in your iPhone or iPad.

Why there is no android app? ;( <sad>


Thing is I DID the destroy ending and I had 5363 EMS and I DID get the shepard breathing bit, and I DO havw the datapad app, so its either glitching in it doesnt send to everyone, or it doesnt go there. IDK...


Same here. 100% readiness, over 7k EMS, destroy ending with Shepard taking a breath and I have recieved no such message on my app.

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SalinValu wrote...

Pyewacket wrote...

UKillMeLongTime wrote...

if ya dont punch her she is a war asset lol, 10 pts i think



What?  She's worth more than ALLERS?  BWAHAHA.


Sadly no...


Really?  Because I'm pretty sure Diana Allers is only worth 5 points.  I had to really think long and hard if it was worth it to have her on the ship.  'Cause then I'd have to SEE her.

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slydfoxxy wrote...

Recon911PDW wrote...

Now I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before but I read some of the descriptions in the CE artbook and I looked back and saw this description about TIM:

"One of the plans on the drawing board was to have the Illusive Man turn into a Reaper creature for the final battle.  Eventually, this plan was scrapped, since we wanted to give players the satisfaction of fighting a chararacter they know rather than a random creature.  The design implies that the Illusive Man's weapon is his intelligence, not his physical strength."

Now if I remember, there was no final battle like how there was at the end of ME1 and ME2,  not unless they meant Kai Leng's battle being the final battle.  Now why scrap the idea if there is no final battle at the so-called end of ME3?  This gives me more reason to believe there is more to come and we must wait.  What do you guys think?


Their meaning was that the final battle was one of words, and not just turning him into a reaper.


 

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byne wrote...

SalinValu wrote...

Pyewacket wrote...

UKillMeLongTime wrote...

if ya dont punch her she is a war asset lol, 10 pts i think



What?  She's worth more than ALLERS?  BWAHAHA.


Sadly no...



According to the wiki she is indeed worth more than Allers.

I think the only thing worth less than Allers is Conrad Verner's doctoral dissertation.


Hmm, maybe I'm just blocking it all out from shock, but I would have sworn that her value went up if you did the interviews with her. And there are two of them.

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noobcannon wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

Recon911PDW wrote...

Now I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before but I read some of the descriptions in the CE artbook and I looked back and saw this description about TIM:

"One of the plans on the drawing board was to have the Illusive Man turn into a Reaper creature for the final battle.  Eventually, this plan was scrapped, since we wanted to give players the satisfaction of fighting a chararacter they know rather than a random creature.  The design implies that the Illusive Man's weapon is his intelligence, not his physical strength."

Now if I remember, there was no final battle like how there was at the end of ME1 and ME2,  not unless they meant Kai Leng's battle being the final battle.  Now why scrap the idea if there is no final battle at the so-called end of ME3?  This gives me more reason to believe there is more to come and we must wait.  What do you guys think?


Their meaning was that the final battle was one of words, and not just turning him into a reaper.


 


hahaha Im so favouriting that video.

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noobcannon wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

Recon911PDW wrote...

Now I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before but I read some of the descriptions in the CE artbook and I looked back and saw this description about TIM:

"One of the plans on the drawing board was to have the Illusive Man turn into a Reaper creature for the final battle.  Eventually, this plan was scrapped, since we wanted to give players the satisfaction of fighting a chararacter they know rather than a random creature.  The design implies that the Illusive Man's weapon is his intelligence, not his physical strength."

Now if I remember, there was no final battle like how there was at the end of ME1 and ME2,  not unless they meant Kai Leng's battle being the final battle.  Now why scrap the idea if there is no final battle at the so-called end of ME3?  This gives me more reason to believe there is more to come and we must wait.  What do you guys think?


Their meaning was that the final battle was one of words, and not just turning him into a reaper.


 


Nice.

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noobcannon wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

Recon911PDW wrote...

Now I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before but I read some of the descriptions in the CE artbook and I looked back and saw this description about TIM:

"One of the plans on the drawing board was to have the Illusive Man turn into a Reaper creature for the final battle.  Eventually, this plan was scrapped, since we wanted to give players the satisfaction of fighting a chararacter they know rather than a random creature.  The design implies that the Illusive Man's weapon is his intelligence, not his physical strength."

Now if I remember, there was no final battle like how there was at the end of ME1 and ME2,  not unless they meant Kai Leng's battle being the final battle.  Now why scrap the idea if there is no final battle at the so-called end of ME3?  This gives me more reason to believe there is more to come and we must wait.  What do you guys think?


Their meaning was that the final battle was one of words, and not just turning him into a reaper.


 


LMAO. I needed that. I really did. :o

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Well some did receive that msg after meeting the requirements. Or maybe just a glitch?

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Pyewacket wrote...

SalinValu wrote...

Pyewacket wrote...

UKillMeLongTime wrote...

if ya dont punch her she is a war asset lol, 10 pts i think



What?  She's worth more than ALLERS?  BWAHAHA.


Sadly no...


Really?  Because I'm pretty sure Diana Allers is only worth 5 points.  I had to really think long and hard if it was worth it to have her on the ship.  'Cause then I'd have to SEE her.


I think she is worth 10 pts