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[Recon911PDW]

DCYNIGR8 wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

Recon911PDW wrote...

Now I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before but I read some of the descriptions in the CE artbook and I looked back and saw this description about TIM:

"One of the plans on the drawing board was to have the Illusive Man turn into a Reaper creature for the final battle.  Eventually, this plan was scrapped, since we wanted to give players the satisfaction of fighting a chararacter they know rather than a random creature.  The design implies that the Illusive Man's weapon is his intelligence, not his physical strength."

Now if I remember, there was no final battle like how there was at the end of ME1 and ME2,  not unless they meant Kai Leng's battle being the final battle.  Now why scrap the idea if there is no final battle at the so-called end of ME3?  This gives me more reason to believe there is more to come and we must wait.  What do you guys think?

Their meaning was that the final battle was one of words, and not just turning him into a reaper.

 

Nice.

Hahaha Marauder Shields was the final boss, funny.

[Pyewacket]

People4Peace wrote...

Pyewacket wrote...

SalinValu wrote...

Pyewacket wrote...

UKillMeLongTime wrote...

if ya dont punch her she is a war asset lol, 10 pts i think

What?  She's worth more than ALLERS?  BWAHAHA.

Sadly no...

Really?  Because I'm pretty sure Diana Allers is only worth 5 points.  I had to really think long and hard if it was worth it to have her on the ship.  'Cause then I'd have to SEE her.

I think she is worth 10 pts

Nope.  Her value may go up, but she starts out at 5 points.

[Rifneno]

Other assets will increase after interviews with Allers. Krogan clans, for instance, if you do an interview right after curing the genophage and talk up how the krogan deserve a chance.

[Auresta]

Iam2ugly wrote...

Well some did receive that msg after meeting the requirements. Or maybe just a glitch?

Some have reported that when they start a new game, they get the message as well.

[noobcannon]

noobcannon wrote...

Iam2ugly wrote...

Little Lummo wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

Little Lummo wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

byne wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

Little Lummo wrote...

Last night i also tweeted Jessica Merizan asking about the message you get on your datapad app from either Kaidan/Ash and what it could mean... And she didn't reply, when she has replied to all my other tweets to her.

It may be a glitch as others have said, but if it was at the start, it totally does not fit in with the rest of it, perhaps the glitch was that you were supposed to get it at the end, instead it gave it to some people at the beginning.

I still find this to be a strong piece of evidence IMO

which message is this? I finished my game and i didnt get anything further from anybody

Supposedly some people have gotten a message from Ash saying the Doctors might allow her to see Shep that day, and telling Shep to hang in there after beating the game.

I thought that was one gotten at the start, during the first cut scenes, or that ist was from when they were in the hopsital. ive seen it around. must investigate.

Cant find an Ash one, but here is a Kaidan one i found on Tumblr, which somebody got after they beat the game on the destroy ending and they lived.

tumblr_m0w5d5vu1l1r5v6m0o1_500.png

yeah I do remember seeing that one, I never got it so maybe it was a glitch? I might start a new game and see if it comes at some point during the gameplay, because it doesnt seem like something they would send to you if you were unconscious in a hospital or something lol.

It's strange, i started a new game and i didn't get it at the start either, i'm gonna see if i get it at the end of this playthrough...

It's a message you get when you finished ME 3 with destory ending, if shep is seeing taking a breathe. You get that msg from Ahs/Kaidan/not sure about Liara(didn't saw one, but some say so)

and... You get this info ONLY by having an APP(http://www.eurogamer...os-app-now-live) in your iPhone or iPad.

Why there is no android app? ;( <sad>

someone speculated that depending on what your war assets are, it will determine what kind of shape you're in at the very end. i thought that would be kinda cool.

i think you get that message because at the beginning of the game you are under house arrest for blowing up the batarian system. doesn't say anything about hospitals or doctors.

Modifié par noobcannon, 15 mars 2012 - 07:07 .

[byne]

Recon911PDW wrote...

DCYNIGR8 wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

Recon911PDW wrote...

Now I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before but I read some of the descriptions in the CE artbook and I looked back and saw this description about TIM:

"One of the plans on the drawing board was to have the Illusive Man turn into a Reaper creature for the final battle.  Eventually, this plan was scrapped, since we wanted to give players the satisfaction of fighting a chararacter they know rather than a random creature.  The design implies that the Illusive Man's weapon is his intelligence, not his physical strength."

Now if I remember, there was no final battle like how there was at the end of ME1 and ME2,  not unless they meant Kai Leng's battle being the final battle.  Now why scrap the idea if there is no final battle at the so-called end of ME3?  This gives me more reason to believe there is more to come and we must wait.  What do you guys think?

Their meaning was that the final battle was one of words, and not just turning him into a reaper.

 

Nice.

Hahaha Marauder Shields was the final boss, funny.

On Insanity, Marauder Shields was by far the hardest enemy in the game.

Mostly because all that swaying around my reticle was doing was had to compensate for on an xbox controller

[Flammenpanzer]

noobcannon wrote...

i think you get that message because at the beginning of the game you are under house arrest for blowing up the batarian system. doesn't say anything about hospitals or doctors.

Wow, their legal system sucks. WTF would it take to get jail time? XD

[VanDex]

I feel I should start the post saying that I have absolutely no intention to troll or flame or rain on anyone's parade or whatever, but I just want to reinforce the idea that it is extremely easy for Bioware to dismiss the theory.

As much as I like the theory and want to believe it, don't you think Bioware can easily handwave all the alleged evidence supporting the theory as space magic and peculiarities of game design? The reason the boy on Earth appears and disappears as sudenly as he does could just be the same reason why we don't see Jack Bauer popping to the loo in 24, right? Anderson saying he's behind you and then appearing ahead of you could simply be the walls realigning, as he himself puts it. Shepard breathing next to the crucible on what seems to be a platform in space with no protection whatsoever? Can easily be explained by some invisible fields shielding the whole platforn or something of that kind. The whole slow motion and general dreaminess thing in the last 5 minutes or so could just be a (rather lame) device to emphasize the dramatic effect of the final moments. I know everything seems to fit so perfectly, but it's still sci-fi and everything can be explained the way writers want it to be explained. 

Then again, at times I don't even agree with myself on certain points about the whole indoctrination thing. I find the rubble scene to be by far the best piece of evidence to support the theory, since I'm pretty sure I can even hear gunfire and some metallic/reaper sounds in the background. Surely that has to mean something. Then the Citadel. Yes, I've already pointed out that the dreaminess could be there for reasons that have nothing to do with the theory, but then again, there's so much echoes and reverb in dialogue that I can't help thinking "that doesn't feel right". Besides, there's this darkish frame around the edges (not the oily tentacles during the TIM scenes) that is present in the nightmare sequences throughout the game.

Anyway, thanks for the great theory that makes so much sense! Even if it turns out to be wrong, that'll still be my ending. Oh, and sorry for the somewhat messy post.

[krystalevenstar]

noobcannon wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

Iam2ugly wrote...

Little Lummo wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

Little Lummo wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

byne wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

Little Lummo wrote...

Last night i also tweeted Jessica Merizan asking about the message you get on your datapad app from either Kaidan/Ash and what it could mean... And she didn't reply, when she has replied to all my other tweets to her.

It may be a glitch as others have said, but if it was at the start, it totally does not fit in with the rest of it, perhaps the glitch was that you were supposed to get it at the end, instead it gave it to some people at the beginning.

I still find this to be a strong piece of evidence IMO

which message is this? I finished my game and i didnt get anything further from anybody

Supposedly some people have gotten a message from Ash saying the Doctors might allow her to see Shep that day, and telling Shep to hang in there after beating the game.

I thought that was one gotten at the start, during the first cut scenes, or that ist was from when they were in the hopsital. ive seen it around. must investigate.

Cant find an Ash one, but here is a Kaidan one i found on Tumblr, which somebody got after they beat the game on the destroy ending and they lived.

tumblr_m0w5d5vu1l1r5v6m0o1_500.png

yeah I do remember seeing that one, I never got it so maybe it was a glitch? I might start a new game and see if it comes at some point during the gameplay, because it doesnt seem like something they would send to you if you were unconscious in a hospital or something lol.

It's strange, i started a new game and i didn't get it at the start either, i'm gonna see if i get it at the end of this playthrough...

It's a message you get when you finished ME 3 with destory ending, if shep is seeing taking a breathe. You get that msg from Ahs/Kaidan/not sure about Liara(didn't saw one, but some say so)

and... You get this info ONLY by having an APP(http://www.eurogamer...os-app-now-live) in your iPhone or iPad.

Why there is no android app? ;( <sad>

someone speculated that depending on what your war assets are, it will determine what kind of shape you're in at the very end. i thought that would be kinda cool.

i think you get that message because at the beginning of the game you are under house arrest for blowing up the batarian system. doesn't say anything about hospitals or doctors.

I don't think it could be from the beginning. The VS looks genuinely surprised to see you at the beginning of 3. Not like they had been texting for a while, you know?

[noobcannon]

Flammenpanzer wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

i think you get that message because at the beginning of the game you are under house arrest for blowing up the batarian system. doesn't say anything about hospitals or doctors.

Wow, their legal system sucks. WTF would it take to get jail time? XD

blowing up all the mass relays....oh wait...

[Recon911PDW]

byne wrote...

Recon911PDW wrote...

DCYNIGR8 wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

slydfoxxy wrote...

Recon911PDW wrote...

Now I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before but I read some of the descriptions in the CE artbook and I looked back and saw this description about TIM:

"One of the plans on the drawing board was to have the Illusive Man turn into a Reaper creature for the final battle.  Eventually, this plan was scrapped, since we wanted to give players the satisfaction of fighting a chararacter they know rather than a random creature.  The design implies that the Illusive Man's weapon is his intelligence, not his physical strength."

Now if I remember, there was no final battle like how there was at the end of ME1 and ME2,  not unless they meant Kai Leng's battle being the final battle.  Now why scrap the idea if there is no final battle at the so-called end of ME3?  This gives me more reason to believe there is more to come and we must wait.  What do you guys think?

Their meaning was that the final battle was one of words, and not just turning him into a reaper.

 

Nice.

Hahaha Marauder Shields was the final boss, funny.

On Insanity, Marauder Shields was by far the hardest enemy in the game.

Mostly because all that swaying around my reticle was doing was had to compensate for on an xbox controller

Yea I was talking to a friend on XBL and he said that Maurader was making him mad on insanity and i decided to see how hard he was to kill, took me twice on insanity lol.  BTW you can shoot your pistol at the part where Shepard is getting up which is kind of funny.

Modifié par Recon911PDW, 15 mars 2012 - 07:14 .

[byne]

Flammenpanzer wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

i think you get that message because at the beginning of the game you are under house arrest for blowing up the batarian system. doesn't say anything about hospitals or doctors.

Wow, their legal system sucks. WTF would it take to get jail time? XD

On top of that, if you didnt do Arrival in the save you imported, you're under house arrest for..... well, they never really explain why.

But they do definitely say that it was the Alliance, not Shepard that blew up the Relay if you didnt play Arrival.

So apparently they can arrest you for not doing anything at all, but cant send you to jail for the mass murder of 300,000 batarians

[DCYNIGR8]

krystalevenstar wrote...

I don't think it could be from the beginning. The VS looks genuinely surprised to see you at the beginning of 3. Not like they had been texting for a while, you know?

Yeah, when Shepard asks Ash why he didn't hear from her the whole time he was under house arrest she tells him that she couldn't face him. I'm yet to do my FemShep/Kaidan playthrough so I'm not sure if the circumstances are the same, but I can't see Ash sending Shepard messages at the beginning of the game.

[SalinValu]

VanDex wrote...

I feel I should start the post saying that I have absolutely no intention to troll or flame or rain on anyone's parade or whatever, but I just want to reinforce the idea that it is extremely easy for Bioware to dismiss the theory.

As much as I like the theory and want to believe it, don't you think Bioware can easily handwave all the alleged evidence supporting the theory as space magic and peculiarities of game design? The reason the boy on Earth appears and disappears as sudenly as he does could just be the same reason why we don't see Jack Bauer popping to the loo in 24, right? Anderson saying he's behind you and then appearing ahead of you could simply be the walls realigning, as he himself puts it. Shepard breathing next to the crucible on what seems to be a platform in space with no protection whatsoever? Can easily be explained by some invisible fields shielding the whole platforn or something of that kind. The whole slow motion and general dreaminess thing in the last 5 minutes or so could just be a (rather lame) device to emphasize the dramatic effect of the final moments. I know everything seems to fit so perfectly, but it's still sci-fi and everything can be explained the way writers want it to be explained. 

Then again, at times I don't even agree with myself on certain points about the whole indoctrination thing. I find the rubble scene to be by far the best piece of evidence to support the theory, since I'm pretty sure I can even hear gunfire and some metallic/reaper sounds in the background. Surely that has to mean something. Then the Citadel. Yes, I've already pointed out that the dreaminess could be there for reasons that have nothing to do with the theory, but then again, there's so much echoes and reverb in dialogue that I can't help thinking "that doesn't feel right". Besides, there's this darkish frame around the edges (not the oily tentacles during the TIM scenes) that is present in the nightmare sequences throughout the game.

Anyway, thanks for the great theory that makes so much sense! Even if it turns out to be wrong, that'll still be my ending. Oh, and sorry for the somewhat messy post.

I've actually been worried by just this, but in the opposite way. I honestly worry that, while I would love for the theory to be true, it could all be precisely a chain of design oversights, and in an effort to not be seen as having fault, they might claim this theory as true because it fits well enough. It might all be a coincidence that they claim to fix their mistake.

[Flammenpanzer]

VanDex wrote...
I find the rubble scene to be by far the best piece of evidence to support the theory, since I'm pretty sure I can even hear gunfire and some metallic/reaper sounds in the background.

I played the background audio files, I can agree with this.

[UKillMeLongTime]

so they pulled prothy out to make DLC maybe they decided to pull the ending out too

[krystalevenstar]

DCYNIGR8 wrote...

krystalevenstar wrote...

I don't think it could be from the beginning. The VS looks genuinely surprised to see you at the beginning of 3. Not like they had been texting for a while, you know?

Yeah, when Shepard asks Ash why he didn't hear from her the whole time he was under house arrest she tells him that she couldn't face him. I'm yet to do my FemShep/Kaidan playthrough so I'm not sure if the circumstances are the same, but I can't see Ash sending Shepard messages at the beginning of the game.

Yeah, it's pretty much the same with Kaiden. I forget why he says he hadn't seen her, but it was definitely not like they had been communicating.

Edit: It seems like it's a glitch and it's most likely supposed to send when they're getting out of Huerta.

Modifié par krystalevenstar, 15 mars 2012 - 07:20 .

[Sl4sh3r]

krystalevenstar wrote...

DCYNIGR8 wrote...

krystalevenstar wrote...

I don't think it could be from the beginning. The VS looks genuinely surprised to see you at the beginning of 3. Not like they had been texting for a while, you know?

Yeah, when Shepard asks Ash why he didn't hear from her the whole time he was under house arrest she tells him that she couldn't face him. I'm yet to do my FemShep/Kaidan playthrough so I'm not sure if the circumstances are the same, but I can't see Ash sending Shepard messages at the beginning of the game.

Yeah, it's pretty much the same with Kaiden. I forget why he says he hadn't seen her, but it was definitely not like they had been communicating.

Edit: It seems like it's a glitch and it's most likely supposed to send when they're getting out of Huerta.

That makes the most sense.

[Niemack Saarinen]

Flammenpanzer wrote...

VanDex wrote...
I find the rubble scene to be by far the best piece of evidence to support the theory, since I'm pretty sure I can even hear gunfire and some metallic/reaper sounds in the background.

I played the background audio files, I can agree with this.

yeah i back this again as well i replayed- toyed with the video recording   made it bright to see if i could see what was in the background  - i think its a over-turned APC but its a stretch i couldnt find anything definitive.  But in reviewing the scene so much i did hear blurred gunfire and metalic groans

[byne]

krystalevenstar wrote...

DCYNIGR8 wrote...

krystalevenstar wrote...

I don't think it could be from the beginning. The VS looks genuinely surprised to see you at the beginning of 3. Not like they had been texting for a while, you know?

Yeah, when Shepard asks Ash why he didn't hear from her the whole time he was under house arrest she tells him that she couldn't face him. I'm yet to do my FemShep/Kaidan playthrough so I'm not sure if the circumstances are the same, but I can't see Ash sending Shepard messages at the beginning of the game.

Yeah, it's pretty much the same with Kaiden. I forget why he says he hadn't seen her, but it was definitely not like they had been communicating.

Edit: It seems like it's a glitch and it's most likely supposed to send when they're getting out of Huerta.

The whole 'they might let me see you' thing seems kind of odd though, since the doctors never stopped Shep from seeing them before

[Sheparded]

Some of the rubble doesn't look like it could be from were Shepard was shot by harbinger, its just an observation.

[Elscotto1989]

so i know this is out of place but i tried to download the datapad app that says its for ipod touch...."incompatible with ipod touch" wow thanks again bioware...your 0-2 on mass effect 3 at the moment...

[Sajuro]

Wait, could the hallucination represent all of the Mass Effect games?
Walk towards beam: ME1 with the three husks either a call back to eden prime or three main missions before virmire, the armors scattered to the side could represent virmire, conduit is the conduit, and the Marauder (Marauder Shields) is Saren.
Walk down citadel and Anderson Versus TIM= ME2
Anderson brings up the Collector base in the hallway, the walls shifting are Shadow Broker post campaign DLC, and the cutscene is the theme of Mass Effect 2 of the opposing moralities and what it takes, with TIM's death possibly going back to Saren.
Then the Star Child scene= Mass Effect 3
The end of Shepard's story, instead of the dialogue wheel, it is a meta game as Shepard himself is present with three binary choices

[Auresta]

Elscotto1989 wrote...

so i know this is out of place but i tried to download the datapad app that says its for ipod touch...."incompatible with ipod touch" wow thanks again bioware...your 0-2 on mass effect 3 at the moment...

I have it for my ipod touch. Did you update yours?