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[Kulin]

killnoob wrote...

Kulin wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Wouldn't it be awesome to find out that we have been 100% correct and interpreted everything correctly?

It would be awesome but i don't think this is going to happen. This thread is like every conspiracy theory:

1. you wish so hard that there is something more, that you see "things" and "facts" everywhere.

2. You reinterprete normal, simple explainable things until they fit into your argumentation.

Typical behaviour for every conspiration theorist! 

Facts are for puzzies.

Real men stick to fiction.

Then these conspiration theorists are the puzzies because they try to find facts in fiction!

Modifié par Kulin, 15 mars 2012 - 10:31 .

[Smiley556]

SomeoneStoleMyName wrote...

Gah... nothing super new lately. We out of fuel?

It was a solid theory 5 days ago. TBH I'm starting to dislike this thread because of all the horrible grasping at emergency induction ports that seems to be going on. Seriously, the screenshots with circles around a mako and a row of circles on the citadel, constant linking to tweets that have absolutely no meaning, the whole 1m1 thing etc. I'm pretty happy understanding the ending as it is (a hallucination). All these wild conspiracy details only discredit our cause. I mean I support it fully and I even find many of these tiny interpreted details retarded. Thinking up of more of this stuff is just fuel to be used against us.

[Thermorium]

R3MUS wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

If you mean his face, that was Reaper tech. In the cerberus base you can see a vid where he asks a doctor to implant him with Reaper stuff.

Yeah, i saw that video. But i thought that video was like some weeks old? Like when the Reapers arrived at the Galaxy?

Illusive man still looks normal when he talks with Shepard in his own room.

And then when you arrive at the Citadel it looks like a bomb went off at the Illusive Mans face.

Maybe the indotrication and implants started removing his skin. The more indoctrinated/corrupted he became.

I could be perfectly possible that his image in the conversation on the cereberus station you have with him was altered to make him look human, i mean, they have the technology.

And if we go by the indoctrination theory, His face is so f-ed up because harbinger wants him to look like that or maybe shepard just imagined him to look like that because of the things he saw on the cerberus station

[Thanatia]

one other thing that I found very strange on my first run... the docking of the crucible. ok the thing had to be protected and all, but all that metal sheets flying off like a godamn modern rocket ?
then, it was the crucible that was supposed to fire, and it's the actual presidium tower that does the fairy dust distribution...
if that tower was able to conduct that much power, I think that some people would have found out
last point, isn't it convenient that the last place we wake up in the citadel with the ghost boy/catalyst, has 2 machines well prepares for the destroy/control options ?
if I had programmed the citadel and reapers for the cycles, I would never had made those, and not in standard organic size.

[Wisnoe]

The only reason Shepard is alive in the Destroy option when you have enough EMS, is because its the only option of the three where you don't sacrifice yourself. In the Control and Synthesis ending you sacrifice yourself in order to end the Reaper threat.

That is also why it's a Renegade option: You are willing to sacrifice Geth and synthetics to give a chance to live for yourself and the galaxy. Paragon Shepard never sacrifices anything except for Virmire. Renegade Shepard is more inclined to sacrifice a few for the many.

[Smiley556]

Wisnoe wrote...

The only reason Shepard is alive in the Destroy option when you have enough EMS, is because its the only option of the three where you don't sacrifice yourself. In the Control and Synthesis ending you sacrifice yourself in order to end the Reaper threat.

That is also why it's a Renegade option: You are willing to sacrifice Geth and synthetics to give a chance to live for yourself and the galaxy. Paragon Shepard never sacrifices anything except for Virmire. Renegade Shepard is more inclined to sacrifice a few for the many.

Your saying paragon shepard didnt sacrifice a system full of batarians?

[Elscotto1989]

Smiley556 wrote...

Wisnoe wrote...

The only reason Shepard is alive in the Destroy option when you have enough EMS, is because its the only option of the three where you don't sacrifice yourself. In the Control and Synthesis ending you sacrifice yourself in order to end the Reaper threat.

That is also why it's a Renegade option: You are willing to sacrifice Geth and synthetics to give a chance to live for yourself and the galaxy. Paragon Shepard never sacrifices anything except for Virmire. Renegade Shepard is more inclined to sacrifice a few for the many.

Your saying paragon shepard didnt sacrifice a system full of batarians?

^^ Tou'che

[Lextra]

Wisnoe wrote...

The only reason Shepard is alive in the Destroy option when you have enough EMS, is because its the only option of the three where you don't sacrifice yourself. In the Control and Synthesis ending you sacrifice yourself in order to end the Reaper threat.

That is also why it's a Renegade option: You are willing to sacrifice Geth and synthetics to give a chance to live for yourself and the galaxy. Paragon Shepard never sacrifices anything except for Virmire. Renegade Shepard is more inclined to sacrifice a few for the many.

so he survives the explosion of the citadel and fall to earth ? yeah sure makes sense

Modifié par Lextra, 15 mars 2012 - 10:38 .

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

Thought I'd upload this pic from when Anderson says "They are controlling YOU"

He puts emphasis on YOU.  He doesent look at the Illusive man but straight at the player.

Dunno about you guys but I got chills down my spine when I realized this.

i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn239/XVVV/TheyarecontrollingYOU.jpg

GAH WHY CANT I LINK THE IMAGE DIRECTLY!?

Isnt the code [img| link [/img| ?

Modifié par SomeoneStoleMyName, 15 mars 2012 - 10:47 .

[Wisnoe]

Elscotto1989 wrote...

Smiley556 wrote...

Wisnoe wrote...

The only reason Shepard is alive in the Destroy option when you have enough EMS, is because its the only option of the three where you don't sacrifice yourself. In the Control and Synthesis ending you sacrifice yourself in order to end the Reaper threat.

That is also why it's a Renegade option: You are willing to sacrifice Geth and synthetics to give a chance to live for yourself and the galaxy. Paragon Shepard never sacrifices anything except for Virmire. Renegade Shepard is more inclined to sacrifice a few for the many.

Your saying paragon shepard didnt sacrifice a system full of batarians?

^^ Tou'che

True enough, lost sight of that because I didn't play Arrival and ME 3 doesn't really explain it all that well.

@other poster, I do believe Shepard is in some sort of dream/hallucination, and he is still on earth in the rubble. The Destroy option is the only one where he wakes up. He sacrifices himself in his dream and dies on earth.

[Thermorium]

Smiley556 wrote...

Wisnoe wrote...

The only reason Shepard is alive in the Destroy option when you have enough EMS, is because its the only option of the three where you don't sacrifice yourself. In the Control and Synthesis ending you sacrifice yourself in order to end the Reaper threat.

That is also why it's a Renegade option: You are willing to sacrifice Geth and synthetics to give a chance to live for yourself and the galaxy. Paragon Shepard never sacrifices anything except for Virmire. Renegade Shepard is more inclined to sacrifice a few for the many.

Your saying paragon shepard didnt sacrifice a system full of batarians?

And to add to that.

Why in the hell would TIM, an obvious renegade get-things-done-at-any-cost character, be shown in the little cutscene when the godkid explains your choices. Controlling the reapers has be shown as a renegade option for the entire 3rd game, and for some reason, all of a sudden, it's paragon?

And why would Anderson, an obvious paragon we're-in-this-together character, be shown in the destroy cutscene, the thing that has been shown as the only solution to the reaper problem for 3 games?

And what about synthesis. It's never really discussed in the 3rd game and is only shown when you have respectable EMS. Isn't this what Saren from the first game was telling you? He was talking about a unison between "flesh and steel, with the strengths of both, and the weaknesses of neither", He's your archnemesis during the entire first game.

[Sajuro]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

R3MUS wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

If you mean his face, that was Reaper tech. In the cerberus base you can see a vid where he asks a doctor to implant him with Reaper stuff.

Yeah, i saw that video. But i thought that video was like some weeks old? Like when the Reapers arrived at the Galaxy?

Illusive man still looks normal when he talks with Shepard in his own room.

And then when you arrive at the Citadel it looks like a bomb went off at the Illusive Mans face.

Maybe the indotrication and implants started removing his skin. The more indoctrinated/corrupted he became.

Hmmm.. yeah actually that's a good question.... never noticed that! It has to mean something.. either the increasing corruption or an indication for indoc

I hate to keep using this as a catch all, but the fact that it was a hallucination, Shepard thinks TIM is indoctrinated so he would see him as more husk like in his hallucination.

[Thermorium]

disregard this post

Modifié par Thermorium, 15 mars 2012 - 10:42 .

[Wisnoe]

A quick question about the synthesis ending for that matter. The child says after the gives you the synthesis ending that it will end the cycle.

Does he mean that only Synthesis gives an end to the 50000 years cycle or does he mean every choice you make? Its why I choose synthesis, because my Shepard wanted to stop the cycle of destruction and wants peace, not necessarily destroy the Reapers (omg indoctrination)

[shamE12]

http://w11.zetaboard...opic/7688087/1/

Modifié par shamE12, 15 mars 2012 - 10:45 .

[Rifneno]

This is the thing you use for the control ending. Look at those pillars between the electricity. Got a good look? Okay.



End_Choice_BadA_01.

Since we already had a fake of a similar image, don't take my word for it. Go download UE Viewer, it's freeware, and check for yourselves.

I cannot wait to hear the theory opponents explain this.

[Smiley556]

Wisnoe wrote...

A quick question about the synthesis ending for that matter. The child says after the gives you the synthesis ending that it will end the cycle.

Does he mean that only Synthesis gives an end to the 50000 years cycle or does he mean every choice you make? Its why I choose synthesis, because my Shepard wanted to stop the cycle of destruction and wants peace, not necessarily destroy the Reapers (omg indoctrination)

Every choice stops the cycle. I was confused too the first time thinking the ending of cycle and destruction of relays only applied to synthesis, but it seems to apply to all choices.

[Abram730]

Wisnoe wrote...

A quick question about the synthesis ending for that matter. The child says after the gives you the synthesis ending that it will end the cycle.

Does he mean that only Synthesis gives an end to the 50000 years cycle or does he mean every choice you make? Its why I choose synthesis, because my Shepard wanted to stop the cycle of destruction and wants peace, not necessarily destroy the Reapers (omg indoctrination)

Why do you trust a Reaper to tell the truth?

[Sajuro]

YoItsThomas wrote...

Sajuro wrote..

What if Mass Effect 3 ends that your Shepard has to sleep with Liara or destroying the Reapers will make Shep's soul aslpode, and in Mass Effect 4 Benezia turns into a giant thresher maw to save the protaganist from the Reaper Spawn.

I have absolutely no problem sleeping with Liara
I am a little cautious of her parents tho.. Haha
But dunno how Benezia would make a return in Mass Effect 4
I'd gladly welcome Shep's and Liara's romance to continue with about the half dozen or so blue little children we plan on having xP hahaha sorry I should be posting that in a Liara thread lol

How Benezia would make a return?
Biotics.
and Rachni memory
but Biotics.

[R3MUS]

Sajuro wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

R3MUS wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

If you mean his face, that was Reaper tech. In the cerberus base you can see a vid where he asks a doctor to implant him with Reaper stuff.

Yeah, i saw that video. But i thought that video was like some weeks old? Like when the Reapers arrived at the Galaxy?

Illusive man still looks normal when he talks with Shepard in his own room.

And then when you arrive at the Citadel it looks like a bomb went off at the Illusive Mans face.

Maybe the indotrication and implants started removing his skin. The more indoctrinated/corrupted he became.

Hmmm.. yeah actually that's a good question.... never noticed that! It has to mean something.. either the increasing corruption or an indication for indoc

I hate to keep using this as a catch all, but the fact that it was a hallucination, Shepard thinks TIM is indoctrinated so he would see him as more husk like in his hallucination.

Hmm, i rather think the indoctrination and the Reaper implants affected Illusve Mans skin and face. Just like Saren had a geth arm and looked half machine.

[TobiTobsen]

Rifneno wrote...

*control pillars picture snip*

This is the thing you use for the control ending. Look at those pillars between the electricity. Got a good look? Okay.

*UE Viever picture sni*

End_Choice_BadA_01.

Since we already had a fake of a similar image, don't take my word for it. Go download UE Viewer, it's freeware, and check for yourselves.

I cannot wait to hear the theory opponents explain this.

Interesting find Rifneno!

[Abram730]

If Shepard was on the Citidel.. the implications of Indoctrination are horrible..

Destroy the weapon, suicide, or broadcast the reaper signal.

[kingsims]

We already know control is bad because that is TIM wanted all along. Its just not worth it, eventually Shepard will lose his grip unless he sends every single reaper into the galactic core and hope they get ripped apart by the sheer forces of black holes.

The Shepard that destroyed the collector base has no intention of letting the reapers live since he had no qualms about killing thousands of people and the collectors etc.

[wombat_stalker]

Bunzmaster wrote...
(...) and you need to Defeat an Indoctrinated and/or Reaper Shepard?

Encountering an Indoctrinated Shepard as another character is a very scary idea. I like it. Indoctrinated Saren and TIM weren't scary because Shepard was there to stop them. But Shepard turned to the enemy?

[Sajuro]

Rifneno wrote...



This is the thing you use for the control ending. Look at those pillars between the electricity. Got a good look? Okay.



End_Choice_BadA_01.

Since we already had a fake of a similar image, don't take my word for it. Go download UE Viewer, it's freeware, and check for yourselves.

I cannot wait to hear the theory opponents explain this.

My god, the things are space dildos!