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Thorn Harvestar wrote...
Is there any sign of Shepard bleeding profusely from the side BEFORE he shoots Anderson in that exact same place?
Thorn Harvestar wrote...
Is there any sign of Shepard bleeding profusely from the side BEFORE he shoots Anderson in that exact same place?
ShotyMcFat wrote...
I saw this a few pages back and i thought i might bring it up again since it looked like no one noticed.Rifneno wrote...
http://i638.photobuc.../controlend.jpg
This is the thing you use for the control ending. Look at those pillars between the electricity. Got a good look? Okay.
i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu110/Veladus/End_Choice_BadA_01.jpg
End_Choice_BadA_01.
Since we already had a fake of a similar image, don't take my word for it. Go download UE Viewer, it's freeware, and check for yourselves.
I cannot wait to hear the theory opponents explain this.
Earthborn_Shepard wrote...
ShotyMcFat wrote...
I saw this a few pages back and i thought i might bring it up again since it looked like no one noticed.Rifneno wrote...
http://i638.photobuc.../controlend.jpg
This is the thing you use for the control ending. Look at those pillars between the electricity. Got a good look? Okay.
i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu110/Veladus/End_Choice_BadA_01.jpg
End_Choice_BadA_01.
Since we already had a fake of a similar image, don't take my word for it. Go download UE Viewer, it's freeware, and check for yourselves.
I cannot wait to hear the theory opponents explain this.
I did notice that, and I guess it means that in a possible DLC this ending would have the worst possible consequences, SURPRISE. I mean, controlling the Reapers never worked.
The whole point is that the game never showed us that reapers can dirrectly control an organic being by force..Golferguy758 wrote...
Shepard is rebuilt out of purposes reaper tech. It's not a stretch to say that if he succumbs to harbinger that harbinger could directly control him. But at no point does shepard lose control of himself to harbinger because he doesn't succumb yet.
If the citadel scene is actually a mental battle it's only shepherds mind that loses control periodically.
Modifié par LivingHitokiri, 15 mars 2012 - 02:57 .
njfluffy19 wrote...
Earthborn_Shepard wrote...
ShotyMcFat wrote...
I saw this a few pages back and i thought i might bring it up again since it looked like no one noticed.Rifneno wrote...
http://i638.photobuc.../controlend.jpg
This is the thing you use for the control ending. Look at those pillars between the electricity. Got a good look? Okay.
i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu110/Veladus/End_Choice_BadA_01.jpg
End_Choice_BadA_01.
Since we already had a fake of a similar image, don't take my word for it. Go download UE Viewer, it's freeware, and check for yourselves.
I cannot wait to hear the theory opponents explain this.
I did notice that, and I guess it means that in a possible DLC this ending would have the worst possible consequences, SURPRISE. I mean, controlling the Reapers never worked.
But it's Commander Shepard! He/She is like a god among mortals!
njfluffy19 wrote...
Earthborn_Shepard wrote...
ShotyMcFat wrote...
I saw this a few pages back and i thought i might bring it up again since it looked like no one noticed.Rifneno wrote...
http://i638.photobuc.../controlend.jpg
This is the thing you use for the control ending. Look at those pillars between the electricity. Got a good look? Okay.
i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu110/Veladus/End_Choice_BadA_01.jpg
End_Choice_BadA_01.
Since we already had a fake of a similar image, don't take my word for it. Go download UE Viewer, it's freeware, and check for yourselves.
I cannot wait to hear the theory opponents explain this.
I did notice that, and I guess it means that in a possible DLC this ending would have the worst possible consequences, SURPRISE. I mean, controlling the Reapers never worked.
But it's Commander Shepard! He/She is like a god among mortals!
FrostByte-GER wrote...
Thorn Harvestar wrote...
Is there any sign of Shepard bleeding profusely from the side BEFORE he shoots Anderson in that exact same place?
no... Did you also noticed that Shepard is bleeding heavily after the dead of Anderson and his hands were completely covered with blood but when he's talking with godchild, his hands are "normal" and not so heavily covered with blood....
Modifié par Chrumpek, 15 mars 2012 - 02:54 .
JulienJaden wrote...
Does anyone here have experience with UE Viewer? I wanted to do some snooping but, as it stands, it's almost impossible to get anywhere before the heat death of the universe because the only way of even opening a file with the program an Win7 64bit is by typing its name in. Now multiply by 6000 or so files and you see my problem.
Any suggestions?
Dark Dajin wrote...
Another note (brought to my attention by a friend):
The Child disappears immediately after Shepard 'breaks the indoctrination' and chooses to destroy.
www.youtube.com/watch
The Child smiles after Shepard 'falls for the indoctrination' and chooses to control
www.youtube.com/watch
(videos courtesy to IGN)
And why do we think the Catalyst is the citadel? Are we not told by a prothean VI that was hacked by TIM before we talked to it?
www.youtube.com/watch
Modifié par Worufu, 15 mars 2012 - 02:56 .
Tairram wrote...
The ending show all the fears of shepard or things he regrets. Looking this theory on this post, show the only thing can fit all the pieces. If its really true and something will fullfill in the future (a dlc) the end of this brilliant saga.
If we look the facts, hudson said he want to me3 become not forgoten and this ending dont get out of my mind.
If bioware make this ending with indocrinated and after the laser beam, all go away with the pseudo-choices of shepard, we are seeing the best history of games ever. But they need to do something after. I love it the end raise this thread and a lot of toughts but we need something to clarify on a near future.
Modifié par Getorex, 15 mars 2012 - 02:56 .
Chrumpek wrote...
Shepard is getting shot by Marauder Shields, just before he enters conduit.
Lugaidster wrote...
Yeah, Morinth said the same thing and look at how that ended...
In a way which makes the fans to rage and call the ending bull****.Getorex wrote...
LivingHitokiri wrote...
As i see , the whole point they are trying to make with destruction HIGH EMS ending is this, that Shepard survives and stuff suppose to continue after... Its like they try to please everyone in a wrong way.arkhine wrote...
LivingHitokiri wrote...
About Shepard sacrifice , no matter if you cried or not, having Shepard to sacrifice is the PEAK of the moment for the game. You may argue about how bad/good other sacrifices are in ME 3 but there is no doubt that the most weight drops down to Shepard.
I knew he was going to die since ME1 but if this theory is correct and he's buried under rubble and not in fact blown up, then I wonder if he's going to die in the 'real ending' as well?
In what "wrong way"? I don't mind and ending (one of many) in which Shepard lives, gets his LI, etc. Or that leaves it ambiguous but possible rather than ruling it out. I don't mind an ending that suggests that one outcome has the galactic civilization continuing, though bruised and battered, but continuing nonetheless with no more Reaper threat henceforth. I DON'T need an ending fed to me that catagorically and in all cases TELLS me Shepard is dead, the galactic civ is gone and cannot be revived (no mass relays) and that many races are flat-out doomed to extinction POST Reaper. That can be ONE ending but it absolutely doesn't need to be the only ending in different forms.
Again, the Shepard story ending has nothing to do with his death. It has to do with the fact that you cannot do any justice in future stories to a Shepard thread because he has already defeated THE biggest threat evah! All other threats would be pathetic and weak in comparison. Hence, Shepard's story CAN'T continue regardless.
kent80082006 wrote...
Chrumpek wrote...
Shepard is getting shot by Marauder Shields, just before he enters conduit.
You mean Marauder Health
LivingHitokiri wrote...
The whole point is that the game never showed us that reapers can dirrectly control an organic being by force..
Sovereign like i've said was controlled by Sovereign just because he let him to be controlled, Saren thought that he wasnt controled,that he actually had it under control but helped Sovereing just because he believed in it. Saren couldnt retain control after the transformation Sovereign did to his body, the final boss shows how Sovereign controlled his body DIRECTLY, before that it was more like a brainwash.
kent80082006 wrote...
Chrumpek wrote...
Shepard is getting shot by Marauder Shields, just before he enters conduit.
You mean Marauder Health
Modifié par Thermorium, 15 mars 2012 - 02:59 .
LivingHitokiri wrote...
In a way which makes the fans to rage and call the ending bull****.Getorex wrote...
LivingHitokiri wrote...
As i see , the whole point they are trying to make with destruction HIGH EMS ending is this, that Shepard survives and stuff suppose to continue after... Its like they try to please everyone in a wrong way.arkhine wrote...
LivingHitokiri wrote...
About Shepard sacrifice , no matter if you cried or not, having Shepard to sacrifice is the PEAK of the moment for the game. You may argue about how bad/good other sacrifices are in ME 3 but there is no doubt that the most weight drops down to Shepard.
I knew he was going to die since ME1 but if this theory is correct and he's buried under rubble and not in fact blown up, then I wonder if he's going to die in the 'real ending' as well?
In what "wrong way"? I don't mind and ending (one of many) in which Shepard lives, gets his LI, etc. Or that leaves it ambiguous but possible rather than ruling it out. I don't mind an ending that suggests that one outcome has the galactic civilization continuing, though bruised and battered, but continuing nonetheless with no more Reaper threat henceforth. I DON'T need an ending fed to me that catagorically and in all cases TELLS me Shepard is dead, the galactic civ is gone and cannot be revived (no mass relays) and that many races are flat-out doomed to extinction POST Reaper. That can be ONE ending but it absolutely doesn't need to be the only ending in different forms.
Again, the Shepard story ending has nothing to do with his death. It has to do with the fact that you cannot do any justice in future stories to a Shepard thread because he has already defeated THE biggest threat evah! All other threats would be pathetic and weak in comparison. Hence, Shepard's story CAN'T continue regardless.
The problem is not Shepard dying per se but the way they did it. It was random, it left with a huge WTF signboard hanging at the top of your head.
njfluffy19 wrote...
Lugaidster wrote...
Yeah, Morinth said the same thing and look at how that ended...
I can hear that awful music playing in my head...
CRITICAL MISSION FAILURE.
Lol.
Broham wrote...
PrinceOfFallout13 wrote...
Valk72 wrote...
GimmeDaGun wrote...
Some twittering with the devs - are we trolled or they are up to something that will blow us all away?
User 1: "I still want to believe you guys are sneaky trolls and have something going on you don't tell us yet. Can I get a cryptic reply?"
@masseffect: "The sun, it shines. www.youtube.com/watch"
User 2: "You are either a massive sadist or a beacon of hope."
@masseffect: "Can't it be both?"
User 3: "I kinda feel lost after that ending...not what I expected and left me feeling everything done was for nothing."
@masseffect: "We know it's a lot to take in! But hang in there. Your decisions matter."
User 4: "Are you holding something back, that could quell the large amount of frustration from the community, a tiny hint would be enough."
@masseffect: "Mike Gamble already said on his twitter, if the fans knew what was in store, the reaction would be different."
User 5: "I loved 98% of ME3..but something has to be up w/ ending..too much talent at BW for that business. Keep my saves?"
@masseffect: "We're keeping our saves, that's for sure."
User 6: "Fans are people too. Playing with their minds isn't that nice as it may look like to people from Bioware."
@masseffect: "We're not playing with anyone's minds, we are answering what questions we can and recording what feedback we receive."
User 7: "Its not that the ending was taken in the wrong direction its that it makes NO SENSE. Ashley was on the Normandy? she [was] with me."
@masseffect: "Probably a good thing to be cautious of."
User 8: "Do y'all have any ETA when more news will be released? Dying for news on a new ending/DLC."
@masseffect: "No ETA yet, but you will be updated via Facebook and Twitter when the news is available."
And some more:
User 1 -Well, i think i'll stop naggin you and trying to get you to talk about the indoctrination theory.Good game though!
Merizan - I want people to make up their own minds right now, then when more people have played we'll talk
User 2 - then I want to SEE that he was lying. I want to get up and finish the fight with Commander Shepard. Then retire.
Merizan - augh. want. to. discuss! Staying spoiler free for now
User 3 - But should've confronted the kid instead. Shep went meekly into the night.
Merizan - are you sure he went meekly into the night?
These are definitly suspicious tweeter, that's for sure.
i knew bioware was up to something
It may have already been said, but these *tweets* tell a lot IMHO... especially "User 6".
I think this final game of the trilogy, Bioware is essentially asking the fanbase "what do you think? Where should this go?" They gave us that stock ending that created a flurry of rage, saddness, acceptance and critial thinking. That was the point.
People have been mulling over this for days non-stop. People have been asking questions and writing articles, blogs and reviews. Theories concerning what even happened during the last 10 minutes have sprung up. Preferred endings have been told and praised.
I would quote where I got this concept from if I could, but someone somewhere pointed out the basic fact that "Mass Effect isn't really a third-person shooter or CRPG, it just has those elements; it is a living movie/story told concurrently with Bioware and us (the player)." <--(Not word for word but the concept is what matters.) The way the game is played or the mechanics behind the game don't define Mass Effect. The defining point of the series is what you can do; the story you create and the legend that will become your Shepard.
Bioware did this purposely and while I'm sure they are getting a lot of lulz from it, they are also getting the feedback they were hoping for. Through us (the raging fanbase firestorm), they are likely refining an ending for nearly everyone and every Shepard. They didn't want ME3 to be just another game everyone picks up, completes in 3-4 days and walks away from thinking "thats how they (Bioware) ended it... cool!/crap.../wow!/<insert whatever word you'd like>" "Well then, on to the next game!"
They wanted you to sit on it.
To think.
To rage.
To cry and complain.
Or to accept it.
To wonder, "how would my Shepard have ended this?" What is the purpose for everything I've done to this point?
At the moment, we're helping to co-write and finalize the Mass Effect trilogy's conclusion. This should be interesting.
Chrumpek wrote...
[...] Shepard is getting shot by Marauder Shields, just before he enters conduit.
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