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[Earthborn_Shepard]

lololol ‏ @whateverlulz
@masseffect @untothecruel I don't think anybody cares about the name - we just want to know IF you will change the ending or not.

Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect
@whateverlulz There will be more coming about the ending. Check this out: http://ow.ly/9Gh0V

[Doctoglethorpe]

My biggest worry at this point is not weather its coming, but how long its going to take.

Its already driving me crazy, I can't wait months for this. But maybe thats what it feels liek to Shepard, so maybe thats what we're supposed to feel.

I can understand how that will ****** off A LOT of people that just don't get it though. The people that don't take the time to think about the game and just accept everything at face value, they'll all see this as just some ****ty publicity stunt or extra cash grab if Bioware make the mistake of charging for it.  

Modifié par Doctor Moustache, 15 mars 2012 - 06:22 .

[Jere85]

@Masseffect
@whateverlulz There will be more coming about the ending. Check this out: http://ow.ly/9Gh0V

First post here btw, absolutely agreeing to all this, i think i read 400 pages of all 500 posts, but i just signed in here so couldnt reply untill now. (24h delay)

[NReed106]

if they want ppl to buy the DLC there will definitely need to be another ending. Or else why buy the DLC? It can't change anything otherwise.

[mupchu777]

I absolutely love the idea of the ending being an indoc ending. It makes sense and honestly I think it will go down as one of the most memorable endings ever. So what if you need to get DLC to figure it out... It's awesome. Now on the other hand if it's not... yeah worst ending ever...

[FrostByte-GER]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

lololol ‏ @whateverlulz
@masseffect @untothecruel I don't think anybody cares about the name - we just want to know IF you will change the ending or not.

Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect
@whateverlulz There will be more coming about the ending. Check this out: http://ow.ly/9Gh0V

WHAT THE ****??? Yeah, twitter isn't a good source, but THIS gives me a BIG confirmation

[Rebel666]

Here was the theory I posted on March 11.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

GoldenSkans9 wrote...

Merizans tweet last night:

The ME3 Twitter is not a person. I should know, I wrote the guidelines It's why we RT our employees - to celebrate ppl!

the answers it gives can't possibly be a bot

[Tibiilicious]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

GoldenSkans9 wrote...

Merizan also said last night, not to believe the ME3 twitter because there aren't real people behind it.

..uh.. what then? Somebody has to answer those..

That was clearly a hint about the indoctrination, ''there aren't real people behind it'' i smell indoctrination, maybe she's indoctrinating us, or i'm just going crazy tbh.

[Tibiilicious]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

GoldenSkans9 wrote...

Merizans tweet last night:

The ME3 Twitter is not a person. I should know, I wrote the guidelines It's why we RT our employees - to celebrate ppl!

the answers it gives can't possibly be a bot

Pretty sure she's behind it.

[Jere85]

more tweet replies coming in about them giving more info about the endings soon... we can only hope... and wait.

[Aesieru]

500+ PAGES?!?!?!?!??!?!??!

[Doctoglethorpe]

The 4chan leak is probably fake. But that doesn't mean its a fake reveal accidentally revealing whats essentially going to happen. Yeah confusing think about it.

No matter what happens, dlc, expansion, me4... the fight isn't over. Shepard's story isn't over. That much is blatantly clear. We just have to have a bit of faith that Bioware know what they are doing. After such a perfect game, and after coming to realize what the ending really is (in which a plot hole filled nonsensical platter of bull**** suddenly becomes contextualized as a brilliantly directed moment on par with the rest of the games excellence) I'm willing to give Bioware that bit of faith.

I hope when they finally pull the rabbit out of their hat, it doesn't go psycho and rip everyones necks open.

[CptData]

Vhalkyrie wrote...

There were lots of hints about indoctrination throughout the game.  I suspected something was up because indoctrination was talked about a lot during the course of the game.  The discussion between Shep and Liara about Benezia wasn't reminiscing and idle chatter.  I think that was the first point when I wondered if the denouement at the end would be about indoctrination.  When Shep had the final confrontation with TIM, I thought, "aha! This was it!"  I totally didn't expect it was really about Shepard's indoctrination, which totally blows my mind.

The interesting part about indoctrination is, it can be subtle or come in force. Saren was indoctrinated for a long time but never realized it until it was too late. And even then he was able to fight indoctrination if Shepard pulls the right strings.

Shepard gets praised for being incredible willpowered - more than once. Actually, s/he seems to be -really- strong, being able to take multiple crippling events without going nuts: Prothean Beacon with horrible, scrambled and disturbing visions, dying once, getting resurrected after being braindead for days, weeks or even months, facing the horrors of war, friends and allies dying - and Shepard -never- showed any signs of PTSD or a cracking mind.

That changes in ME3. I think until that point, Shepard's sanity was perfect but got first cracks somewhere between ME2 and ME3. The more time you spend with Shepard in ME3, the more cracks his/her sanity gets. At daytime s/he operates normally, letting no one know about his/her struggle, but at night his/her mind cracks. The nightmares are displaying Shepard's fight with the inner enemy - indoctrination maybe?

However, Shepard virtually gets nuts after s/he nearly got blasted by Harby's beam. When s/he's at the brink of death, his/her mind is weakened and indoctrination seeps in. Shepard is fighting inner demons in the ending and the only way for him/her to defeat them - and survive - is to DENY options the starchild shows him/her. Remember: that kid wants you to pick Control or Merge but tries everything to make "Destruction" looking bad. Picking the Destruction Ending doesn't mean everything goes to hell - it's just the only option for Shepard to defeat the inner demons and regain free will. That decision ALSO symbolizes the ONLY decision Shepard aimed for the entire lenght of the trilogy: s/he never wanted to control the Reapers, never wanted to fuse synthetics and organics. Shepard's goal was to take down the Reapers at any cost.
Picking Merge & Control means Shepard also picks giving up his/her own free will, while going for "Destruction", s/he stays true to his/her original goals ... and therefore for free will.

[Jere85]

Aesieru wrote...

500+ PAGES?!?!?!?!??!?!??!

The people are upset... Who can blame them?
Im upset.

[Warhawk7137]

GoldenSkans9 wrote...

Merizans tweet last night:

The ME3 Twitter is not a person. I should know, I wrote the guidelines It's why we RT our employees - to celebrate ppl!

The twist is that the ME3 Twitter is actually Harbinger.

[Knightsaber2010]

I am starting to not care anymore. Wasted my $80 and that's that. At least the one playthrough was 99% fun.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

Warhawk7137 wrote...

GoldenSkans9 wrote...

Merizans tweet last night:

The ME3 Twitter is not a person. I should know, I wrote the guidelines It's why we RT our employees - to celebrate ppl!

The twist is that the ME3 Twitter is actually Harbinger.

dun dun duuuun

maybe they indoctrinate us via twitter o.O

[CptData]

Doctor Moustache wrote...

The 4chan leak is probably fake. But that doesn't mean its a fake reveal accidentally revealing whats essentially going to happen. Yeah confusing think about it.

No matter what happens, dlc, expansion, me4... the fight isn't over. Shepard's story isn't over. That much is blatantly clear. We just have to have a bit of faith that Bioware know what they are doing. After such a perfect game, and after coming to realize what the ending really is (in which a plot hole filled nonsensical platter of bull**** suddenly becomes contextualized as a brilliantly directed moment on par with the rest of the games excellence) I'm willing to give Bioware that bit of faith.

I hope when they finally pull the rabbit out of their hat, it doesn't go psycho and rip everyones necks open.

Shepard's story is over for the trilogy if BW gives ME4 a setting in a far distant future, maybe 200, 300 years after Shepard. That's needed, otherwise they don't have a "clean" galaxy to play with - they had to import too many variables from ME3. In case ME4 is set 200 years post-Shepard, they just need to check for variables which races are lost (Geth, Quarians), if Krogans got the cure or not (in case they didn't, they're slowly dying out, but are still around). Most homeworlds are screwed in ME3, regardless of Shepard's decisions.

However, Shepard's story isn't over in the trilogy - if s/he survives the "dream", there's still fanfiction, comics, books ... everything. BW -MAY- decide to extend ME3 with new DLCs and endings.

[Rifneno]

You know, it occurs to me we never got resolution on an important thing. The Reapers were focusing on London. The final battle takes place there, but only because that's where the Reapers were. We don't know why they were concentrated there to begin with. The way Anderson talked about it, it did not seem like a throwaway point that would be left unresolved.

[Vhalkyrie]

By giving us this interactive, real time experience of the ending before the real ending comes, they are making it far more memorable.  Thats exactly what Casey said he wanted. 


Course in a few months I might look back at how full of **** I was, in utter disappointment that the indoc theory was wrong and Bioware actually did **** up.  But... I'm pretty sure.  Plot holes the size of jupiter that line up to form a perfect connect the dots drawing... no way its just coincidense. 

Yep.  This is exactly where I got to, also.  My first reaction to the ending was "What crap!"  Now I'm like, "Whoa."  But if this isn't really their intention, I will be back to "What crap!" again.   

I just thought it was really, really odd to chew out TIM for being indoctrinated, then a few seconds later, being presented with the option, "So the Illusive Man was right."  My spider sense went off.  I was like, "NO!  Shep would never think that!  Anderson is wrong, but the Illusive Man was right?"  For a second, I was struck with self doubt, thinking maybe this was supposed to be the ironic ending.  I simply do not accept this.  So now I am believing Shep is still in London, the war is still on, but now the Reapers are going to be on the run because they failed to eliminate the first person who can end their 'solution'.

There is still more story to tell.  We still don't know where the Reapers came from, and what happened to their 'creators'.  Of course we can surmise they probably harvested their creators, but is it really what it seems?  The story of the Quarians/Geth turned out to be a lot different than we first believed in ME1.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

Rifneno wrote...

You know, it occurs to me we never got resolution on an important thing. The Reapers were focusing on London. The final battle takes place there, but only because that's where the Reapers were. We don't know why they were concentrated there to begin with. The way Anderson talked about it, it did not seem like a throwaway point that would be left unresolved.

true.. it seems like that was the starting point of their attack

[sargon1986]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Brian Saboe ‏ @UntoTheCruel
@masseffect and know im hearing rumors about 'the truth; dlc. what is that.

Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect
@untothecruel Do you think we would really name something "The Truth"


..yeah.. so much for that.

This is label given by the community. Its obvious that the DLC wont be named like that. The developer meant that they are going to name the DLC differently... :>

[IllusionOfLife]

I will say this. As disappointing and incomprehensible as that ending was, I don't think that it retroactively ruins the rest of the series, or even Mass Effect 3 for that matter. The Mass Effect series is an incredible groundbreaking work of interactive fiction and I think will always be remembered as one of the best game series of all time. These games did something unique on a scale nobody ever dared attempt before, and, for the most part, it worked brilliantly.

I spent $80 on ME3 and I feel that was money well spent. It may not have quite lived up to my expectations, and was not quite as good (in my opinion) as the damn-near perfect ME2, but it was still a great game, and those final 10 minutes, while frustrating and disappointing, don't change that.