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[GunMoth]

So what potentially "killed" the idea? Did I miss something? Was it just that piece of binder paper? If so I don't see it either.

[IronSabbath88]

The haters will just find any little smudge of evidence to prove BioWare are pure evil.

Sad really. To think these people can't see the obvious signs.

[Ona Demonie]

Hey, guys. I was watching a video about the confrontation between TIM, Anderson, and Shepard and noticed that there was lighting. While I know that we agreed that the area is a lot like the Shadow Broker's base, I'm just wondering if there could be another explanation for the random lighting strikes in the background?

[magica87]

so...after reading more or less the whole discussion, I wanted to ask just one simple question ...to what extent can we hope for a real ending?
I think that by ignoring all complaints create a sort of "negative aura" around themselves (bioware) risking going to affect their future productions ...and then is all  your opinion?
Is all too nebulous, too many questions, if they wanted to close the story of Shep could have opted for an ending with a bang like "Ya! we did it!", certainly a game (like a movie) that ends in the best ways are not forgotten ... I tend to forget that not an ending like this one perhaps more commonplace!

[Lenimph]

Evil_medved wrote...

Yep, bioware pretty much killed the idea. End of the line guys.

If anything I think the new info reinforces the theory more... they did consider that Shepard has been/is being exposed to indoctrination and they wanted an ending that created a lot of speculation... 

[Rifneno]

Evil_medved wrote...

Yep, bioware pretty much killed the idea. End of the line guys.

Isn't it incredible how people convince themselves any little thing disproves something they don't agree with?  We see a sheet outlining the ending which ends with a comment about a movie where you take the red option and it'll bring you back to reality, and theory opponents go "see, this is the ending right here, this proves there's no waking up if you take the red option."

[byne]

magica87 wrote...

so...after reading more or less the whole discussion, I wanted to ask just one simple question ...to what extent can we hope for a real ending?
I think that by ignoring all complaints create a sort of "negative aura" around themselves (bioware) risking going to affect their future productions ...and then is all  your opinion?
Is all too nebulous, too many questions, if they wanted to close the story of Shep could have opted for an ending with a bang like "Ya! we did it!", certainly a game (like a movie) that ends in the best ways are not forgotten ... I tend to forget that not an ending like this one perhaps more commonplace!

Hopefully Bioware understands that the endings as they currently stand basically ruin the entire series over the span of about 10 minutes, and will change them.

I generally buy any DLC for Bioware games, I even got all the DA2 DLC, even though I didnt much care for DA2, but if these endings arent changed, I am not going to buy any DLC for ME3, or likely anything from Bioware again, and I know lots of people agree with me on this.

[UKillMeLongTime]

Not sure when those notes were made that the ending would be the laughing stock all over the internet and of over 90% not feeling good about the ending

and there is time to make it right......or not

I won't be buying DLC unless I know 'stuff' is being worked on. Just too many games out there to buy. I can save it for Borderlands 2 DLC or a trade in for bioshock infinite

[AM94]

Its quite possible that Bioware will release some sort of post-end DLC that adds a little extra to the ending, and allows for post endgame content like Broken Steel did to FO3. I would accept this and the fact that i believe this is because of this i just saw:

http://www.examiner....nding-the-works

[CptData]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

The haters will just find any little smudge of evidence to prove BioWare are pure evil.

Sad really. To think these people can't see the obvious signs.

BW isn't evil. They did a darn fine job here. I was upset with the endings at first but that entire "dream/indoctrination"-theory makes a lot of sense and the "insider infos" fortify that theory a lot.

I'd say we're pretty much close to the truth. Only BW can kill that theory now - either by a DLC or by a "Word of God".

[UKillMeLongTime]

byne wrote...

magica87 wrote...

so...after reading more or less the whole discussion, I wanted to ask just one simple question ...to what extent can we hope for a real ending?
I think that by ignoring all complaints create a sort of "negative aura" around themselves (bioware) risking going to affect their future productions ...and then is all  your opinion?
Is all too nebulous, too many questions, if they wanted to close the story of Shep could have opted for an ending with a bang like "Ya! we did it!", certainly a game (like a movie) that ends in the best ways are not forgotten ... I tend to forget that not an ending like this one perhaps more commonplace!

Hopefully Bioware understands that the endings as they currently stand basically ruin the entire series over the span of about 10 minutes, and will change them.

I generally buy any DLC for Bioware games, I even got all the DA2 DLC, even though I didnt much care for DA2, but if these endings arent changed, I am not going to buy any DLC for ME3, or likely anything from Bioware again, and I know lots of people agree with me on this.

I have all of the DA1 and DA2 DLC and 100% achvs on DA2 and ME1 and ME2 and assumed ME3. I lack the insanity runs and that's it currently
but right now I am like you, done if they are done.

[Icinix]

Ona Demonie wrote...

Hey, guys. I was watching a video about the confrontation between TIM, Anderson, and Shepard and noticed that there was lighting. While I know that we agreed that the area is a lot like the Shadow Broker's base, I'm just wondering if there could be another explanation for the random lighting strikes in the background?

Electrical signals being fired in Sheps brain.

[Niemack Saarinen]

they've yet to come out and publicly state: "The ending is the ending, there will be no further expansion on that fact, we're sorry if you didn't like the direction we went but sorry, this is how Shepard story ends. 'if you got the shepard breathing in the rubble that just means yeah sheps alive and oh well its the end we inceptioned your butt's, was leonardo still in the dream? was the spinning totem ever going to stop spinning?. Anyways long rant but nothing is over yet.

[Flapperrr]

My belief is unsteady, but one person, from Russian VK community has paid attention that Normandy, on an unknown planet, looks very small, even taking into account accident.
I already also don't know what to think. Or Bioware fools, or really test for us social engineering what to allow to feel that can approximately test Sheppard.

[GunMoth]

magica87 wrote...

so...after reading more or less the whole discussion, I wanted to ask just one simple question ...to what extent can we hope for a real ending?
I think that by ignoring all complaints create a sort of "negative aura" around themselves (bioware) risking going to affect their future productions ...and then is all  your opinion?
Is all too nebulous, too many questions, if they wanted to close the story of Shep could have opted for an ending with a bang like "Ya! we did it!", certainly a game (like a movie) that ends in the best ways are not forgotten ... I tend to forget that not an ending like this one perhaps more commonplace!

;_; I'm not sure what you mean in some parts. My apologies.

Business-wise the current endings kill the Mass Effect universe. No more Mass Relays. No more FTL drives. etc. Therefore damning the franchise entirely (which they have already said they wanted to expand on). Any sort of dream / indoctrination theory makes more sense as it leaves the ending ambiguous enough to work on DLC or another installment. More money for Bioware. More fans invested in the franchise.

Though I do feel that Bioware didn't consider that releasing a game with an ending like this could cause, not only a huge negative response in the community, but with the media as well. Some people may refuse to buy or invest in future Mass Effect stuff because they were given "an unfinished product". 

I also feel that the uproar regarding Javik's DLC is icing on the cake. Fans already "had enough" after that whole incident. This may be the final straw for some people. I'm not one of them, but bekhadkff. 

[lex0r11]

byne wrote...

magica87 wrote...

so...after reading more or less the whole discussion, I wanted to ask just one simple question ...to what extent can we hope for a real ending?
I think that by ignoring all complaints create a sort of "negative aura" around themselves (bioware) risking going to affect their future productions ...and then is all  your opinion?
Is all too nebulous, too many questions, if they wanted to close the story of Shep could have opted for an ending with a bang like "Ya! we did it!", certainly a game (like a movie) that ends in the best ways are not forgotten ... I tend to forget that not an ending like this one perhaps more commonplace!

Hopefully Bioware understands that the endings as they currently stand basically ruin the entire series over the span of about 10 minutes, and will change them.

I generally buy any DLC for Bioware games, I even got all the DA2 DLC, even though I didnt much care for DA2, but if these endings arent changed, I am not going to buy any DLC for ME3, or likely anything from Bioware again, and I know lots of people agree with me on this.

so much. they just threw everything what mass effect was up to that point out of the airlock. no theme of paragon or renegade shep going '**** that', i will still put my trust in the races free will like i did THE ENTIRE TIME.

hope. faith. where did they put it at the end? it's like shep was not himself. ring any bells?

Modifié par lex0r11, 15 mars 2012 - 09:45 .

[Ona Demonie]

magica87 wrote...

so...after reading more or less the whole discussion, I wanted to ask just one simple question ...to what extent can we hope for a real ending?
I think that by ignoring all complaints create a sort of "negative aura" around themselves (bioware) risking going to affect their future productions ...and then is all  your opinion?
Is all too nebulous, too many questions, if they wanted to close the story of Shep could have opted for an ending with a bang like "Ya! we did it!", certainly a game (like a movie) that ends in the best ways are not forgotten ... I tend to forget that not an ending like this one perhaps more commonplace!

I really think this isn't the ending solely for the fact that Shepard lives. 

[ME3EndingH8er]

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Modifié par ME3EndingH8er, 15 mars 2012 - 09:46 .

[Doctoglethorpe]

I keep thinking of Inception during this whole fiasco. I wonder if it was an influence.

[Ona Demonie]

Icinix wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...

Hey, guys. I was watching a video about the confrontation between TIM, Anderson, and Shepard and noticed that there was lighting. While I know that we agreed that the area is a lot like the Shadow Broker's base, I'm just wondering if there could be another explanation for the random lighting strikes in the background?

Electrical signals being fired in Sheps brain.

Interesting.

[Icinix]

Niemack Saarinen wrote...

they've yet to come out and publicly state: "The ending is the ending, there will be no further expansion on that fact, we're sorry if you didn't like the direction we went but sorry, this is how Shepard story ends. 'if you got the shepard breathing in the rubble that just means yeah sheps alive and oh well its the end we inceptioned your butt's, was leonardo still in the dream? was the spinning totem ever going to stop spinning?. Anyways long rant but nothing is over yet.

Even after DA2 they came out and made a big post about even though many were not happy with the ending, it was still an ending.

[AxelBat]

AM94 wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

http://browse.devian...set=96#/d4sujtu

I feel like dying inside...

did the BioWare team just go on a deviantart shopping spree???

lol im surprised youre using that as evidence of anything, almost none of the pictures look a like and if you think the conduits are similar, there are thousands of things similar to it, its a common design used in numerous stories, games, etc. Whoever made that is just looking for a reason to hate Bioware of ME

I agree. A lot of scifi looks like other scifi. Bioware has said that they had to change a lot of stuff to keep from being to simalar to other scifi things. I'm not defending them in much now adays, but this really proves nothing.

Also, despite the app and such I still really believe this indoctrination theory. It's not dead yet.

Modifié par AxelBat, 15 mars 2012 - 09:46 .

[byne]

Doctor Moustache wrote...

I keep thinking of Inception during this whole fiasco. I wonder if it was an influence.

I must be the only person in this entire thread who hasnt actually seen Inception...

[HairyMadDog1010]

byne wrote...

Doctor Moustache wrote...

I keep thinking of Inception during this whole fiasco. I wonder if it was an influence.

I must be the only person in this entire thread who hasnt actually seen Inception...

Your not alone.

[N7Infernox]

Doctor Moustache wrote...

I keep thinking of Inception during this whole fiasco. I wonder if it was an influence.

Ambiguity actually fit Inception.
Mass Effect, however, is about choices and consequences, which was not reflected in our endings..