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[byne]

jules_vern18 wrote...

Guys, are you still seriously sticking to this whole indoctrination thing? It was just bad writing...the "Last Hours" documentary clearly confirms it. They show pictures of Mac Walters' ending development notes and nowhere does any of it mention indoctrination or any other subversive plot lines: the endings we got were the literal endings were were always supposed to get.

I would *not* say, however, that ME3 is "dead" just because they planned these endings from the beginning (which was our original assumption before people started coming up with conspiracy theories in a desperate attempt to hold on to hope).

I'll say it again: it was just bad writing. It was a poorly-constructed, plothole-filled, badly-executed, nonsensical, bad ending to a good game. That's it. Feel free to download the Final Hours app if you don't believe me.

Time to let it go, refocus, and continue lobbying Bioware for alternate ending DLC.

Also, inb4 desperate attempts to make the indoctrination theory "work" in light of the documentary.

I'll stick to indoctrination even if Bioware says specifically that it is incorrect, simply because it makes far more sense than what we got.

And yes, destroying the relays, trapping all the fleets of the galaxy on Earth, and destroying galactic civilization does indeed mean ME3 is dead with the current endings.

[magica87]

TheRaggyGandalf wrote...

Facebook:
"We appreciate everyone’s feedback about Mass Effect 3 and want you to know that we are listening. Please note, we want to give people time to experience the game so while we can’t get into specifics right now, we will be able to address some of your questions once more people have had time to complete the game. "

well, this begins to make sense...

[Icinix]

Mr. Mistake wrote...

Hey everyone, look what I found.

http://imgur.com/r/masseffect/x1JeH

LOLOLOL! That is quite funny.

[Mallissin]

Mr. Mistake wrote...

Hey everyone, look what I found.

http://imgur.com/r/masseffect/x1JeH

Horrible.

Funny as hell.

But Horrible.

[Descedent]

jules_vern18 wrote...

Guys, are you still seriously sticking to this whole indoctrination thing? It was just bad writing...the "Last Hours" documentary clearly confirms it. They show pictures of Mac Walters' ending development notes and nowhere does any of it mention indoctrination or any other subversive plot lines: the endings we got were the literal endings were were always supposed to get.

I would *not* say, however, that ME3 is "dead" just because they planned these endings from the beginning (which was our original assumption before people started coming up with conspiracy theories in a desperate attempt to hold on to hope).

I'll say it again: it was just bad writing. It was a poorly-constructed, plothole-filled, badly-executed, nonsensical, bad ending to a good game. That's it. Feel free to download the Final Hours app if you don't believe me.

Time to let it go, refocus, and continue lobbying Bioware for alternate ending DLC.

Also, inb4 desperate attempts to make the indoctrination theory "work" in light of the documentary.

BECAUSE BIOWARE WOULD TOTALLY LET A REDO ENDING DLC or the FULL TRUE ending show on a piece of paper on a documentary............   

[CptData]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...

So, you know how it was stated that there would be no POST-game DLC? Well, isn't a DLC that has extra content that includes Shepard waking up, regrouping with his squad, and finishing the fight to be a DURING event, rather than post?

This needs to be repeated. You win, sir. You win.

That's it. The current "endings" are not ending the game.
So basically, our game is not finished, not yet.

[Davies993]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

Evil_medved wrote...

In "Final Hours" they stated that retarded kid was planned all along and there will be no post-end dlc. So yeah, drop it guys, ME3 is dead.

You've finally accepted reality. Cheers.

You people do know the meaning of 'likely' right?

'Whatever we do would likely happen before or during the events of Mass Effect 3, not after'

That's not stating that there wont be DLC AFTER ME3. Even so, the Indoc theory takes place DURING ME3.

Come on guys, learn to read.

[CptData]

byne wrote...

I'll stick to indoctrination even if Bioware says specifically that it is incorrect, simply because it makes far more sense than what we got.

And yes, destroying the relays, trapping all the fleets of the galaxy on Earth, and destroying galactic civilization does indeed mean ME3 is dead with the current endings.

Funny part: BW never stated "indoctrination" is no longer the case.
They just said they cut some parts of it.

http://social.biowar...23/556#10017534

Modifié par CptData, 15 mars 2012 - 10:19 .

[MissMaster_2]

I'm going to stick with the hallucination, because it really is derpy with out it. Bioware will never release an ending DLC, they are going to leave it open. They wanted us to speculate the endings....

[IronSabbath88]

CptData wrote...

byne wrote...

I'll stick to indoctrination even if Bioware says specifically that it is incorrect, simply because it makes far more sense than what we got.

And yes, destroying the relays, trapping all the fleets of the galaxy on Earth, and destroying galactic civilization does indeed mean ME3 is dead with the current endings.

Funny part: BW never stated "indoctrination" is no longer the case.
They just said they cut some parts of it.

http://social.biowar...23/556#10017534

What's funny about that is how it's basically the same concept done differently. They made it so you actually can have dialogue and choices. That's the whole reason they cut the last one.

[Tibiilicious]

TheRaggyGandalf wrote...

Facebook:
"We appreciate everyone’s feedback about Mass Effect 3 and want you to know that we are listening. Please note, we want to give people time to experience the game so while we can’t get into specifics right now, we will be able to address some of your questions once more people have had time to complete the game. "

Aye they've said that before, today was the release date over in Asia, so there waiting untill a large majority finishes it, and then most likely, start adressing some questions.

[vasametropolis]

I'm taking a more extreme stance now. If it's not indoctrination... I don't want to know. Don't say anything, don't do anything, don't touch anything, because this is the only answer to anything that isn't filled with implausability.

<<< As I make the stern face to my left.

Modifié par xCaptainAmazing, 15 mars 2012 - 10:21 .

[Valk72]

Flapperrr wrote...

And after all Japanese only have received game... When they will pass it, that will be created here?

That's gonna be hell here when the japenese will have finished the game, that's for sure XD

[savionen]

As much as the pieces of paper may show some errors in judgement, it doesn't really conclude anything positive or negative. How many major decisions do you make from information written on scraps of paper?

[NReed106]

The theory is a good spring board for them, but it was not their intention, just that simple.

[byne]

savionen wrote...

As much as the pieces of paper may show some errors in judgement, it doesn't really conclude anything positive or negative. How many major decisions do you make from information written on scraps of paper?

I make my major decisions solely from information written on scraps of paper.

I make my minor decisions on information I find on Post-It notes

[DizzyKa]

Reading through "The final hours of Mass Effect 3". On their flowchart for the plot there is a box that says 'Prothean VI : Crucible will cause "galactic dark age" '. Thats some pretty good proof that the relays getting destroyed was intended to be canon :/

[Lugaidster]

Descedent wrote...

jules_vern18 wrote...

Guys, are you still seriously sticking to this whole indoctrination thing? It was just bad writing...the "Last Hours" documentary clearly confirms it. They show pictures of Mac Walters' ending development notes and nowhere does any of it mention indoctrination or any other subversive plot lines: the endings we got were the literal endings were were always supposed to get.

I would *not* say, however, that ME3 is "dead" just because they planned these endings from the beginning (which was our original assumption before people started coming up with conspiracy theories in a desperate attempt to hold on to hope).

I'll say it again: it was just bad writing. It was a poorly-constructed, plothole-filled, badly-executed, nonsensical, bad ending to a good game. That's it. Feel free to download the Final Hours app if you don't believe me.

Time to let it go, refocus, and continue lobbying Bioware for alternate ending DLC.

Also, inb4 desperate attempts to make the indoctrination theory "work" in light of the documentary.

BECAUSE BIOWARE WOULD TOTALLY LET A REDO ENDING DLC or the FULL TRUE ending show on a piece of paper on a documentary............   

If they are releasing a documentary, it'd be in the best interest of the documentator document this part of the story. So if I was him, I'd delay the documentary until the stunt was revealed.

[PlumPaul93]

NReed106 wrote...

The theory is a good spring board for them, but it was not their intention, just that simple.

This. This. This.

[Strik3r889123]

the turtlicious theory is simple wonderful!
BIOWARE please listen this theory!
you may make a final brilliant, this is an excellent feedback!
Shepard wakes up and sees to continue the battle and finally he can make meaningful choices XD
spectacular!!!!

[Rifneno]

jules_vern18 wrote...

Guys, are you still seriously sticking to this whole indoctrination thing? It was just bad writing...the "Last Hours" documentary clearly confirms it. They show pictures of Mac Walters' ending development notes and nowhere does any of it mention indoctrination or any other subversive plot lines: the endings we got were the literal endings were were always supposed to get.

I would *not* say, however, that ME3 is "dead" just because they planned these endings from the beginning (which was our original assumption before people started coming up with conspiracy theories in a desperate attempt to hold on to hope).

I'll say it again: it was just bad writing. It was a poorly-constructed, plothole-filled, badly-executed, nonsensical, bad ending to a good game. That's it. Feel free to download the Final Hours app if you don't believe me.

Time to let it go, refocus, and continue lobbying Bioware for alternate ending DLC.

Also, inb4 desperate attempts to make the indoctrination theory "work" in light of the documentary.

You know, a lot of people said early on that everybody who tore into BW about the ending will owe them an apology if this turns out to be true.  I think it also needs to be said that people like this owe us an apology at the same time.

[Hashbeth]

Final Hours provides no hard evidence other than these facts:
The ending was planned. That could mean anything, that indoc was real, or it wasn't. Both would have been 'planned'

Modifié par Hashbeth, 15 mars 2012 - 10:25 .

[lex0r11]

sorry if this has been pointed out before.
but just after watching that last video i want to ask people who give up on this theory.

WHY does the kid in the vent answer: "you can't help me." ? why would a normal, REAL kid say that to shep in that situation? the codex entries in the game state, that indoctrination is best done slowly, because the mind decay will be slower too, and the victim can be of use for months or longer. slow, patient indoctrination through the whole game, maybe the entire series?

just think about it. what could be more devastating for shep than a kid losing hope, losing faith in shepard? what else could destroy shepards determination better than these dreams in which he can't do **** to get to that kid?

just hit me, after seeing it again.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

NReed106 wrote...

The theory is a good spring board for them, but it was not their intention, just that simple.

This. This. This.

Yeah.. I've come to believe that too.