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[Ainyan42]

rogueagent6 wrote...

I just did a quick replay up until the point you get to TIM. One thing I noticed is that while you were nearly obliterated, Anderson took no noticeable damage

That's a very good point!

[Eumerin]

krystalevenstar wrote...

oh_saki wrote...

lavosslayer wrote...

Eumerin wrote...

Niemack Saarinen wrote...
I.e. The right thing in your mind to do is represented as "WRONG" in this ending (dream) --- You get a renegade option (RED) to shoot TIM to save anderson?? really? im sorry thats paragon.. but see.. its indoctrination-- its making you think its WRONG to shoot TIM to save anderson.
 

Er...

Apparently that really is Bioware's feeling on the matter.

You get a Renegade interrupt to shoot Udina when he tries to shoot the Asari Councilor.
You get a Renegade interrupt when Kai Leng attempts to stab you in the back in the Cerberus Base.
You get a Renegade interrupt to shoot TIM.


For Bioware, apparently any interrupt that involves attacking someone - regardless of the reason why - is a Regenade interrupt.

Whats funny is I've never gotten a Renegade Inturrupt to shoot TIM...I did for the other two but never TIM...odd...unless of course you have to choose several Renegade dialogue options which would explain it totally since I chose Paragon choices...

Nope. I replayed the ending 3 times, twice choosing Synthesis and once choosing Destruction. First time I chose a combo of paragon and renegade choices, second time I chose all paragon, final time I chose all renegade, each time I shot TIM.

You can convince TIM to commit suicide. I forget the specific choices I made, but it happened in my first ending.

It's like what you can do to Saren in ME1.  But apparently it also involves using Paragon or Renegade conversation options every single time you talk to him throughout the game.

I didn't see a Renegade interrupt when I killed him, but it's probably because I was desperately trying to use my left and right triggers (which control weapon zoom/paragon interrupts and weapon firing/renegade interrupts respectively).

The interrupt probably didn't have enough time to register before I fired.

[krystalevenstar]

wetnasty wrote...

Perhaps. Or maybe Shepard was a dream. Like in FFX.

Anyways, I'm ready to see Kaidan in booty shorts ala Yuna for Mass Effect 3-2

Ooo baby

[lavosslayer]

Lugaidster wrote...

lavosslayer wrote...

also Shepard began the Indoctrination Process in the Arrival DLC due to exposure to Object Rho...(we really need to get this stuff stickied in one central place cause its getting kinda frustrating having to repost this every 5 or so pages...however I am glad there are new faces showing up embracing the whole idea!)

That's the one argument I don't buy. I didn't play the arrival DLC and the way it was introduced in my story was that some other marines did it. So not everyone would go through with arrival.

BTW, the IFF reaper module could be the thing trying to indoctrinate me, but I'm not yet indoctrinated. Only after the hallucination would I be actually indoctrinated.

That doesn't mean it's not the "canon" way things are supposed to happen...since PS3 players never got ME1 they will never see alot of things from that game in ME2 or 3 but many of those events did take place. Like giving Tali the Geth data for her pilgrimage or finding out about Cerberus or Anderson becoming Admiral regardless of you placing him on the council...those things happen regardless of playing ME1 yet they never actually are given the choice to do them while those who did play ME1 were given the choice...the last example being a choice they made for everyone...

in short bioware making something a canon choice happens on certain things regardless of the players choice due to its importance to the story...Arrival happend in the true storyline and Shepard was involed since that's the enitre reason for the trial in the first place at the beginning of ME3

[Lugaidster]

wetnasty wrote...

Perhaps. Or maybe Shepard was a dream. Like in FFX.

Anyways, I'm ready to see Kaidan in booty shorts ala Yuna for Mass Effect 3-2

DUUUDE! WAY TO RUIN THE GAME FOR ME!!! at least a spoiler alert! GAWD!

[rogueagent6]

lookingglassmind wrote...

rogueagent6 wrote...

I just did a quick replay up until the point you get to TIM. One thing I noticed is that while you were nearly obliterated, Anderson took no noticeable damage

Like bullets from a gun, rougeagent6!

Keep 'em comin.

Not only that, he still has his hat while your helmet is MIA...

[lookingglassmind]

rogueagent6 wrote...

lookingglassmind wrote...

rogueagent6 wrote...

I just did a quick replay up until the point you get to TIM. One thing I noticed is that while you were nearly obliterated, Anderson took no noticeable damage

Like bullets from a gun, rougeagent6!

Keep 'em comin.

Not only that, he still has his hat while your helmet is MIA...

Bang!

[oh_saki]

Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

Maybe Bioware's intention was to get us all talking and speculating about the ending. I hope not, because then they'd call this a success.

I actually just posted this a page ago but nobody acknowledged it and gave their thoughts, haha.

"So HERE'S a thought I just had. Maybe there is no post ending DLC. Maybe the writers of ME meant for us to figure out that Shep was dreaming, and the 'best ending' (Shep choosing destruction and then waking up in the rubble) is the 'canon' ending and truly the ending of Mass Effect. Maybe they wanted us to see that Shep wakes up and it was all just a dream, and then we can truly make our own 'choice' as to what happens to Shep next with our own wild imagination..."

[krystalevenstar]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

krystalevenstar wrote...

littleork wrote...

lookingglassmind wrote...

@MissMaster_2: Now that is an avenue we haven't really touched on. I'm inclined to trust BioWare with this: Shepard's story is over. So, while s/he might live, we won't really explore her/his story except through legend and story telling.

Shepard herself says that she is done fighting  after the reaper deal somewhere on Earth(to garrus maybe?), so i think a long ending will happens, and then she will retired or die depending of our decisions.

"I think I'm done saving the galaxy after this" is the line I believe. Who can blame Shep? He/She is 32 now and was 29 when this whole thing started.

Biologically though, wouldn't Shepard still be 29 in ME2, and 30 in ME3?

That's a good point, though I'm sure that whatever body was left during Project Lazarus would still be aging. Just like people in the hospital on life support are still growing older.

[Jellyfishanomaly]

I guess this seems possible, but then where would bioware take the game? It's less confusing in a way, I suppose, so that alone makes it a bit better than the endings we got.

[MissMaster_2]

The first time I played the ending I was like "How the hell is she breathing with out a helmet?"

Space magic LSD trip.

[FLYING GRENADE11]

If bioware really made this and i ended up swearing up and down and embarrassing myself i have one thing to do.

Modifié par FLYING GRENADE11, 11 mars 2012 - 07:54 .

[crimsontotem]

hmm... I am right now playing that citadel run stuff again...

just one question... I am about to crawl to that beacon... I notice a tree right by me... strikingly similar to the trees in his dream sequence... was there a tree when Shepard was charging before Harbinger shot him?

[CreepingGeth]

This thread makes me giddy.

[BlackDragonBane]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

krystalevenstar wrote...

littleork wrote...

lookingglassmind wrote...

@MissMaster_2: Now that is an avenue we haven't really touched on. I'm inclined to trust BioWare with this: Shepard's story is over. So, while s/he might live, we won't really explore her/his story except through legend and story telling.

Shepard herself says that she is done fighting  after the reaper deal somewhere on Earth(to garrus maybe?), so i think a long ending will happens, and then she will retired or die depending of our decisions.

"I think I'm done saving the galaxy after this" is the line I believe. Who can blame Shep? He/She is 32 now and was 29 when this whole thing started.

Biologically though, wouldn't Shepard still be 29 in ME2, and 30 in ME3?

I guess, biologically, Shepard would only be 30 by the time the war starts, considering when you spend 2 years dead and on an operating table, you don't really age, but I don't think the age would really matter at that point, it's not a big enough gap but it's obvious the psycological toll is affecting Shepard.

Is there any different at all to Shepard if you had a bunch of people die in ME2 when importing to ME3?

[Lugaidster]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

krystalevenstar wrote...

littleork wrote...

lookingglassmind wrote...

@MissMaster_2: Now that is an avenue we haven't really touched on. I'm inclined to trust BioWare with this: Shepard's story is over. So, while s/he might live, we won't really explore her/his story except through legend and story telling.

Shepard herself says that she is done fighting  after the reaper deal somewhere on Earth(to garrus maybe?), so i think a long ending will happens, and then she will retired or die depending of our decisions.

"I think I'm done saving the galaxy after this" is the line I believe. Who can blame Shep? He/She is 32 now and was 29 when this whole thing started.

Biologically though, wouldn't Shepard still be 29 in ME2, and 30 in ME3?

Biologically I'd say he's 40. Dying and reviving has to take a toll on you.

[lookingglassmind]

oh_saki wrote...
 Maybe they wanted us to see that Shep wakes up and it was all just a dream, and then we can truly make our own 'choice' as to what happens to Shep next with our own wild imagination..."

Do agree, there.

[MPSai]

oh_saki wrote...

Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

Maybe Bioware's intention was to get us all talking and speculating about the ending. I hope not, because then they'd call this a success.

I actually just posted this a page ago but nobody acknowledged it and gave their thoughts, haha.

"So HERE'S a thought I just had. Maybe there is no post ending DLC. Maybe the writers of ME meant for us to figure out that Shep was dreaming, and the 'best ending' (Shep choosing destruction and then waking up in the rubble) is the 'canon' ending and truly the ending of Mass Effect. Maybe they wanted us to see that Shep wakes up and it was all just a dream, and then we can truly make our own 'choice' as to what happens to Shep next with our own wild imagination..."

That would still be a pretty big cop-out. 

[shimoyake]

I feel like I could actually stomach a second playthrough if Shepard were indoctrinated. I had actually been expecting as much from the first nightmare scene, especially when they started getting more chaotic and Shepard started snapping at everyone from the stress, even poor Joker. The very idea that even the 'perfect' hero that is Shep could fall, even if it's just briefly before waking up in the rubble from Harbinger's beam...

Well, it's much more satisfying than what we got.

[dporowski]

oh_saki wrote...

Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

Maybe Bioware's intention was to get us all talking and speculating about the ending. I hope not, because then they'd call this a success.

I actually just posted this a page ago but nobody acknowledged it and gave their thoughts, haha.

"So HERE'S a thought I just had. Maybe there is no post ending DLC. Maybe the writers of ME meant for us to figure out that Shep was dreaming, and the 'best ending' (Shep choosing destruction and then waking up in the rubble) is the 'canon' ending and truly the ending of Mass Effect. Maybe they wanted us to see that Shep wakes up and it was all just a dream, and then we can truly make our own 'choice' as to what happens to Shep next with our own wild imagination..."

Yeeaaaaaaaah...  I'm pretty sure that "Make up your OWN ending!!!  Imagination!!!" is going to sell your local hardware store out of torches and certain farm implements.

[krystalevenstar]

crimsontotem wrote...

hmm... I am right now playing that citadel run stuff again...

just one question... I am about to crawl to that beacon... I notice a tree right by me... strikingly similar to the trees in his dream sequence... was there a tree when Shepard was charging before Harbinger shot him?

You know what, when I played them this morning I noted that down in a notebook I was using and I never mentioned it since it seemed like a stretch, but if someone else is noticing it too, maybe it's not so crazy.

[lookingglassmind]

crimsontotem wrote...

hmm... I am right now playing that citadel run stuff again...

just one question... I am about to crawl to that beacon... I notice a tree right by me... strikingly similar to the trees in his dream sequence... was there a tree when Shepard was charging before Harbinger shot him?

I distinctly remember a tree getting in my way. Or it could have been one of those phonebooths. Drat.

[MissMaster_2]

crimsontotem wrote...

hmm... I am right now playing that citadel run stuff again...

just one question... I am about to crawl to that beacon... I notice a tree right by me... strikingly similar to the trees in his dream sequence... was there a tree when Shepard was charging before Harbinger shot him?

HOLY CRAP!

[Miss Vader]

I am a little confused tho- how does the very ending- star gazer and child fit into this theory?