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[KujaTheDarkOne2]

Complistic wrote...

So no one else heard both male and female shep's voice echoing behind starchild's voice?

It's been mentioned before by some other people. I'm not sure what the significance is, or if there's been any sort of community agreement about its relevance, but it has been noticed.

[FLYING GRENADE11]

tobito113 wrote...

FLYING GRENADE11 wrote...

Tiberius Gracchus wrote...

tobito113 wrote...

@JessicaMerizan "Final Hours" seems to definitively state that the ending on the disc was planned and final. So long 

@MattDoyle33 how does that make indoctrination theory impossible???

HOLY ****

This is horrible. I hate Jessica more than I would hate having to accept the ending if it turns out Indoctrination theory is false.

link?

https://twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan 

im camping her tweet right now, keep pressing dat refresh buttom

[MJF JD]

i all of a sudden feel that i can get past mars on my new playthroughs before i turn the game off in disgust.

[Emperor_Ike]

@NicolaiAntonov
We're not asking to see everything that happens after the ending, we're asking to see the immediate fate of everyone.
@JessicaMerizan
You see the immediate fate of Shepard. That is who this trilogy is about.

Not that this says 'you don't see anything about anyone else', but to me it screams that everything apart from Shep is and should be highly suspect

[Vhalkyrie]

Tygur wrote...

Jessica Merizan: I don't think anything you saw/read/heard today should make you sad about the endings. Some theories still hold true.

YES.  I'll take it.

[Paladin14]

@izmirtheastarac Your choices still have impact, esp based on which end decision you made.


^ This

Modifié par Paladin14, 16 mars 2012 - 03:02 .

[byne]

@JessicaMerizan Certainly didn't make me trust reaperchild! Of course he'd say the decision to destroy them was the bad one!

@akashepard yeah he would - it would destroy him too!


Had... had we ever actually definitively established before this that the catalyst child was indeed Synthetic, and not some kind of energy being?

Because I dont think we had...

[T_l_M_B_0]

I feel so bad letting these tweets actually get my hopes up I have such a strong feeling that she is playing with us... perhaps... wait... she's trying to indoctrinate us too! That settles it guys, Marzipan is Harbinger! Someone quick make a new thread with all of our evidence on the subject! Hold the NEW line!

[Martukis]

Izmir ‏ @izmirtheastarac

· Open

@JessicaMerizan Perhaps because ever choice made in the game is either ignored or rendered moot by the ending.

Jessica Merizan ‏ @JessicaMerizan
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@izmirtheastarac Your choices still have impact, esp based on which end decision you made.

[snackynak]

tobito113 wrote...

@JessicaMerizan It was renegade red, but that confused me. TIMs choice was definitely more "wicked", yet it was blue. Anderson isn't bad!

@akasheppy yeah that is weird................ did it make you think anything?

ITS OVER INDOCRINATION THEORY JUST WON

I might be able explain why destroy was red and control was blue. Go back to ME2, when talking with TIM, the paragon choices were usually in agreement or accommadating with TIMs plans. Whereas renegade options were more of the distrust/ **** you to TIM Then, when you go to destroy the collector base you are given 2 options, disable or destroy. If I remember correctly, destroying the base was the renagade option while disabling was paragon.
So it kind of makes sense to have the "destroy" option be renegade because it's the "finish the mission at all costs" option, where as the other two are more of the "appeasment/bridgebuilder" options.
Just my thoughts on that.

[Fame-KIllz]

I recommend none of you get your hopes up and to wait and see first

[Kanon777]

@JessicaMerizan It's easy to fall into the negativity. You are the only reason I haven't. By the way how powerful is harby's indoc range?

@Joystiq93 I don't believe that is discussed explicitly in-game. Shep's had a lot of exposure to Reaper tech in the past 3 games though :/

[MJF JD]

Joystiq ‏ @Joystiq93 · Open
@JessicaMerizan It's easy to fall into the negativity. You are the only reason I haven't. By the way how powerful is harby's indoc range?
Jessica Merizan ‏ @JessicaMerizan Close
@Joystiq93 I don't believe that is discussed explicitly in-game. Shep's had a lot of exposure to Reaper tech in the past 3 games though :/

[KujaTheDarkOne2]

byne wrote...

@JessicaMerizan Certainly didn't make me trust reaperchild! Of course he'd say the decision to destroy them was the bad one!

@akashepard yeah he would - it would destroy him too!


Had... had we ever actually definitively established before this that the catalyst child was indeed Synthetic, and not some kind of energy being?

Because I dont think we had...

Woah. No, I don't think we had. It didn't really talk about itself, at least as far as what precisely it was. I certainly don't recall it saying it was synthetic. I mean, I guess it could have been inferred, when it refers to itself and the Reapers as 'we' at one point, but still...

[Tiberius Gracchus]

Oh god

Modifié par Tiberius Gracchus, 16 mars 2012 - 03:04 .

[Ghrelt]

Why do I feel like tweeting that woman is like using a magic 8-ball?

[JCQuiinn]

snackynak wrote...

tobito113 wrote...

@JessicaMerizan It was renegade red, but that confused me. TIMs choice was definitely more "wicked", yet it was blue. Anderson isn't bad!

@akasheppy yeah that is weird................ did it make you think anything?

ITS OVER INDOCRINATION THEORY JUST WON

I might be able explain why destroy was red and control was blue. Go back to ME2, when talking with TIM, the paragon choices were usually in agreement or accommadating with TIMs plans. Whereas renegade options were more of the distrust/ **** you to TIM Then, when you go to destroy the collector base you are given 2 options, disable or destroy. If I remember correctly, destroying the base was the renagade option while disabling was paragon.
So it kind of makes sense to have the "destroy" option be renegade because it's the "finish the mission at all costs" option, where as the other two are more of the "appeasment/bridgebuilder" options.
Just my thoughts on that.

The Paragon option was to destroy it. Renegade was keepin' it around.

[Rifneno]

The only way you're going to get any definitive answer to the indoctrination theory via twitter is if she accidentally types a PM to a dev into a public window.
Don't hang on her every word. There's no point. She's not going to give a conclusive answer. She almost certainly can't even if she does have one and does want to share it. Meanwhile, creating a buzz is what community relations calls "a good job." And that's what she's trying to do. It's just business.

[redBadger14]

Terraforming2154 wrote...

tobito113 wrote...

@JessicaMerizan "Final Hours" seems to definitively state that the ending on the disc was planned and final. So long 

@MattDoyle33 how does that make indoctrination theory impossible???

HOLY ****

Maybe she just likes the indoctrination theory?
I know that her tweets are cryptic and I desperately want the indoctrination theory to be validated, but honestly, I don't really believe anything she says carries weight since she isn't a dev or part of the team of creators working on ME.

This is not necessarily true. While Jessica may not know 100% of what goes on among the development team, she is like Evil Chris and works at the same office as the development team does. Something as big as whatever the team is planning is certainly something she would be aware and know of, as well as Mr Priestly.

Just because her job label is "Community Manager" does not mean she doesn't know anything about what goes on in development. Not 100% of what goes on, but she has a good idea.

[lex0r11]

KujaTheDarkOne2 wrote...

byne wrote...

@JessicaMerizan Certainly didn't make me trust reaperchild! Of course he'd say the decision to destroy them was the bad one!

@akashepard yeah he would - it would destroy him too!


Had... had we ever actually definitively established before this that the catalyst child was indeed Synthetic, and not some kind of energy being?

Because I dont think we had...

Woah. No, I don't think we had. It didn't really talk about itself, at least as far as what precisely it was. I certainly don't recall it saying it was synthetic. I mean, I guess it could have been inferred, when it refers to itself and the Reapers as 'we' at one point, but still...

he says 'we' but also says 'i' control the reapers.

[Kanon777]

@JessicaMerizan If only one of those implications wasn't that Tali was stranded on a mysterious planet w/o Shepard... 8\\

@Dr_Endless so choose red and go save her

[kent80082006]

I guess this proves it, the endings are genuinely bad

-

From the iPad app

Mac Walters on the Star Child/Reapers
"Originally, with the catalyst, the star child at the end of the game, I had written that much more in the guise of a investigative style conversation, where there is something he tells you but then, you get to ask a bunch of questions and you get your questions answered. But then me and Casey talked and decided, lets keep the conversation "High level". Give you the details that you need to know, but don't get into the stuff that you don't need to know. Like "How long have they been reaping?" You don't need to know the answers to the mass effect universe. So we intentionally left those out"

On Deciding the End of the Game
The illusive man boss fight had been scrapped... but there was still much debate. 'One night walters scribbled down some thought on various ways the game could end with the line "Lots of speculation for Everyone!" at the bottom of the page.'

In truth the final bits of dialogue were debated right up until the end of 2011. Martin sheen's voice-over session for the illusive man, originally scheduled for August, was delayed until mid-November so the writers would have more time to finesse the ending.

And even in November the gameplay team was still experimenting with an endgame sequence where players would suddenly lose control of Shepard's movement and fall under full reaper control. (This sequence was dropped because the gaemplay mechanic proved too troublesome to implement alongside dialogue choices).

-

Very well then, no aftermath, just intentionally vague, unintentionally bad
The theory will always be true in my heart

Modifié par kent80082006, 16 mars 2012 - 03:09 .

[snackynak]

JCQuiinn wrote...

snackynak wrote...

tobito113 wrote...

@JessicaMerizan It was renegade red, but that confused me. TIMs choice was definitely more "wicked", yet it was blue. Anderson isn't bad!

@akasheppy yeah that is weird................ did it make you think anything?

ITS OVER INDOCRINATION THEORY JUST WON

I might be able explain why destroy was red and control was blue. Go back to ME2, when talking with TIM, the paragon choices were usually in agreement or accommadating with TIMs plans. Whereas renegade options were more of the distrust/ **** you to TIM Then, when you go to destroy the collector base you are given 2 options, disable or destroy. If I remember correctly, destroying the base was the renagade option while disabling was paragon.
So it kind of makes sense to have the "destroy" option be renegade because it's the "finish the mission at all costs" option, where as the other two are more of the "appeasment/bridgebuilder" options.
Just my thoughts on that.

The Paragon option was to destroy it. Renegade was keepin' it around.

Ah,ok.