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PlumPaul93

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byne wrote...I wasn't insulting her, just noting the desperation to find any sort of news to prove this theory, even if it's not from someone who would really know.


But dont you think someone at Bioware would step in if she was tweeting blatantly false information?


She's tweeting what she hopes/believes, she's not guaranteeing that what she's saying is true. If it calms people down and she's not saying this is fact, than I don't think Bioware would really care.

Modifié par PlumPaul82393, 16 mars 2012 - 04:02 .


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ArkkAngel007

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thePredator50 wrote...

It's obvious Jessica WANTS to talk about this, but she's under embargo... Also, it seems no one noticed:

thePredator50 wrote...

From here: http://www.bioware.r..._truth_dlc.html

Translated:

Mass Effect 3 - HEARING: DLC «truth» and the new ending is true


Before reading further, please pay special attention to the news that DOES not officially confirmed, and may be untrue! Once again: this is unofficial information.

A few days ago an anonymous user, from which there is information about the first DLC for multiplayer , provided information about what "fiasco" with the final Mass Effect 3 developers pitch was intentional because of the early beta version of the game leaked online, revealing thus the plot. BioWare changed this same story in a way that they have time to prepare the true ending and releasing it through the DLC.

A possible addition is called " true "(" The Truth ") and, presumably, will be released in April or May. You will be able to continue the story, regardless of the choices made ​​in the final, but your decision will have a strong influence on the ending of "Truth." On top of that in addition there will be two new enemies, new classes, new multiplayer maps (including a base, "Beehive" - a small card on the last remaining ship Collector).

The image in the news about the DLC for multiplayer shows some but not all, of future classes and races. It does not show proteanin adept and proteanin attack. This DLC will also add to the multiplayer proteanskuyu rifle for all owners add "From the ashes" .

News source claims that this supplement will be distributed free of charge.

Again, nothing has not yet been officially confirmed, and all may be nothing but a fake.



Courtesy of Arlind.


We did, and quite honestly, I called BS.  They said the ending changed due to the leaks last year, yet the ending is the same as it was.  That alone discounts it.

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Jere85

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i need 2 people holding me by the arms as i hold the line, ill fall asleep now, wake me when its time to actually hold the line.

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@JessicaMerizan @Jebuz_Mutation Doesn't matter, no mass effect relay means that not everyone can get back to their home worlds

@xEtErNaLxReDx if you choose red, yup that's possibly true in the immediate future

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mpgeist

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 Maybe Shep's red eyes makes him special Reaper tech! :mellow:

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Icinix

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Man. Jessica is either the biggest tease right now or she's building us up to bring us down hard!

Modifié par Icinix, 16 mars 2012 - 04:03 .


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thePredator50 wrote...

@JessicaMerizan @Jebuz_Mutation Doesn't matter, no mass effect relay means that not everyone can get back to their home worlds

@xEtErNaLxReDx if you choose red, yup that's possibly true in the immediate future


Interpretation: Blue ending you can use the Reapers to rebuild the relays, Green ending you can use the Reapers to rebuild the relays,  Red ending, no reapers to rebuild the relays, must rely on FTL travel.

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ArkkAngel007

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[quote]PlumPaul82393 wrote...

[quote]byne wrote...I wasn't insulting her, just noting the desperation to find any sort of news to prove this theory, even if it's not from someone who would really know.
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But dont you think someone at Bioware would step in if she was tweeting blatantly false information?

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She's tweeting what she hopes/believes, she's not guaranteeing that what she's saying is true. If it calms people down and she's not saying this is fact, than I don't think Bioware would really care.

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She isn't tweeting her hopes and beliefs.  She already pointed us to how she felt what the endings were personally, which was something about how Shepard could not live as he is a relic of the current age, and that the ending he catalyzes brings about a new age that he can't be a part of.

Sorry if that's dumbing it down too much, but it's a really convuluted theory.

Modifié par ArkkAngel007, 16 mars 2012 - 04:03 .


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blooregard wrote...

umm reapers? first contact war? what?


The books and comics.  TIM's real name is Jack Harper, he was part of the Alliance during the First Contact War.  Kicked a good bit of ass too.  Unfortunately came in contact with a Reaper device the turians had, and that's where he got his eyes.

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Golferguy758

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I'm telling you the only tweet you guys need to pay attention to is the one that says the final hours thing is not canon. It is just something that was meant to be fun and show the development process.

Everything else can be turned one way or the other. That's the nature of any reply when it comes to covering something under an NDA.

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Chyliss wrote...

I wonder how Jules Verne is coming along with that poem???


I'm sure Ash is going to stop quoting Tennyson  :D

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vrumpt wrote...

thePredator50 wrote...

It's obvious Jessica WANTS to talk about this, but she's under embargo... Also, it seems no one noticed:


"The Truth" has already been debunked.  @masseffect said they would never name anything that.


Well since that article came out they sure as hell won't.

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@JessicaMerizan The sol relay is at pluto, if they couldn't make it to the realy in time they only have the area between Earth and Pluto.

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@Jebuz_Mutation yeah they definitely didn't go through the relay

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turian_rage

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A new thought. Throughout the entire game, people are questioning Shepard's integrity, moreso than they were in 2 right after his reconstruction. During the game I was actually expecting them to allude to Cerberus implanting reaper technology into Shepard during the Lazarus project. Hell, they brought Shepard BACK FROM THE DEAD. I don't care what millenium you're in, that's amazing. This could in fact explain a more rapid indoctrination at the ending of the game. It can also explain the dream sequences, which many who believe the indoctrination theory believe to be parts of the indoctrination. Shepard's mind after Lazarus was slowly being eaten up by the haunting memory of the boy he couldn't save.

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thePredator50

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@JessicaMerizan I still hate the ending but you bring up a decent point: I forgot about QTE. Can you tell me what Joker was doing/going?

@dbrodzinski He was pulling back as ordered (listen closely when you are running to the beam) and then tried to outrun that force field


Uh oh... Doesn't change much either way really, but still not really nice to see her talking about the ending in such a literal way.

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BeardedPuma wrote...

@JessicaMerizan The sol relay is at pluto, if they couldn't make it to the realy in time they only have the area between Earth and Pluto.

Jessica Merizan ‏
@Jebuz_Mutation yeah they definitely didn't go through the relay


Well they were clearly near a relay in the end. that is the only way they could have been hit by that blast...

Modifié par MissMaster_2, 16 mars 2012 - 04:10 .


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blooregard

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vrumpt wrote...

thePredator50 wrote...

@JessicaMerizan @Jebuz_Mutation Doesn't matter, no mass effect relay means that not everyone can get back to their home worlds

@xEtErNaLxReDx if you choose red, yup that's possibly true in the immediate future


Interpretation: Blue ending you can use the Reapers to rebuild the relays, Green ending you can use the Reapers to rebuild the relays,  Red ending, no reapers to rebuild the relays, must rely on FTL travel.



in the red ending the reapers just flop over and die (the equiviliant of hitting the on/off switch) there's plenty of reaper tech left lying around to rebuild the relays and the citadel

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Rifneno

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mpgeist wrote...

 Maybe Shep's red eyes makes him special Reaper tech! :mellow:


...  Well, the human Reaper had red eyes.  Three of them in fact.

...  :unsure:  I should go.

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Anyone know where to find information in the game files information pertaining to a single planet/system?

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Luiginius

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Following those tweets is like asking Grobnar Gnomehands about the Wendersnaven.

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blooregard wrote...

vrumpt wrote...

thePredator50 wrote...

@JessicaMerizan @Jebuz_Mutation Doesn't matter, no mass effect relay means that not everyone can get back to their home worlds

@xEtErNaLxReDx if you choose red, yup that's possibly true in the immediate future


Interpretation: Blue ending you can use the Reapers to rebuild the relays, Green ending you can use the Reapers to rebuild the relays,  Red ending, no reapers to rebuild the relays, must rely on FTL travel.



in the red ending the reapers just flop over and die (the equiviliant of hitting the on/off switch) there's plenty of reaper tech left lying around to rebuild the relays and the citadel


Yep....lots of resources...:)

As the Jesscia's tweets: Like someone else said, she can only say so much. Simple as that.

Modifié par People4Peace, 16 mars 2012 - 04:11 .


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SomeoneStoleMyName

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I still think this video: start at 0:55 and pause the vid at 0:57 - is one of the biggest give-aways. Sends chills down my spine everytime!

Note how Anderson doesent look at the illusive man but DIRECTLY at the player.

I mean FFS HOW MANY HINTS DO YOU NEED?

I dont think Bioware was aware of how many stupid players wouldnt get it considering the overwhelming hints given. I think Bioware might even had been afraid they overdid the point you were indoctrinated.

Modifié par SomeoneStoleMyName, 16 mars 2012 - 04:15 .


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Rifneno wrote...

mpgeist wrote...

 Maybe Shep's red eyes makes him special Reaper tech! :mellow:


...  Well, the human Reaper had red eyes.  Three of them in fact.

...  :unsure:  I should go.


The renegade red circle-and-dots are flipped so there are 2 at the top left and right, with one at bottom center, whereas the blue Indoc eyes are 2 at lower left and right. Don't I remember TIM having a center-top blue?

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Likely within distance of Earth with an FTL ship.....Then stargazer is most definitely not Normandy colony.

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MissMaster_2

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Wait. If it was all really happening and Joker fell back like he was ordered other ships would have been in the area. But the only ship we see is the Normandy...hum.