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ULS 980 wrote...
Well he already seemingly lied to you when he said you'd die if you chose the destroy ending.Baihu1983 wrote...
If it was and picking the red explosion is the right option does that mean its lieing when it says all other AI will die like the geth/edi?
So based on that, I'd say it's assumed that the Geth/EDI will not die as well, assuming the theory is correct.
He goes on about how choosing to destroy the Reapers would actually kill all synthetics.MissMaster_2 wrote...
ULS 980 wrote...
Well he already seemingly lied to you when he said you'd die if you chose the destroy ending.Baihu1983 wrote...
If it was and picking the red explosion is the right option does that mean its lieing when it says all other AI will die like the geth/edi?
So based on that, I'd say it's assumed that the Geth/EDI will not die as well, assuming the theory is correct.
Wait he said you would die if you picked destroy? I don't remember that.
Baihu1983 wrote...
If it was and picking the red explosion is the right option does that mean its lieing when it says all other AI will die like the geth/edi?
Modifié par DCYNIGR8, 16 mars 2012 - 08:59 .
Dae0 wrote...
musicaleCA wrote...
Dae0 wrote...
theratking wrote...
At this point, regardless of the future of Mass Effect, we can at least be content with the fact that we have come up with a nearly 600 page interpretation that works and is interesting to discuss, at least.
and if Bioware already hasnt begun work on an ending dlc, they would be bloody nuts to not make use of some of these great ideas.
See, that's the rub. I think, if the hallucination/indoctrination theory is right, BioWare horribly miscalculated. Players have come-up with a theory that would allow for the ending to be "fixed". Since that theory is now fleshed-out far before any news from BioWare on a new ending, if there isn't an announcement soon, a new ending DLC from BioWare can be written-off by fans and reviewers as them having simply expanded the ending in a way that appears acceptable to fans. Good profit motive to do it in any case.
But hell, I'm far too cynical of anything with an EA sticker on it to think this is much more than a writing snafu.
What might be telling is, if a new or expanded ending is released at some point, is whether or not we have to pay for it. If we need to pay for this theoretical complete ending, it'd be tantamount to going to a movie theatre and then the management stopping the film right at its climax, then demanding ten bucks extra if you want to see the rest. I don't know of any precidence in the entertainment industry for anything like it, that is, promising the whole package plus ending, but then cutting the customers off and demanding more money to see the end. When I bought ME3, I expected the whole package. If the ending was deliberatly left-out for some future date and/or DLC...I didn't get what I paid for.
I can't speak for others, but if I had to pay for it...I would. Would I buy another BioWare game after that kind of experience? Absolutely not. Gods help the poor souls on dial-up.
I just read the article on "the truth" dlc via a translated version of the russian bioware forum post and I have to say that everything claimed in that post does make sense. My only real concern is that if EA/Bioware was willing to scrap the planned ending for this monstrosity once because it was "leaked" pre release, what would stop them from doing it again now that their new plans were "leaked". Assuming, of course, that that was their plan before it was leaked.
Heres the link from earlier in this thread I believe:
http://www.bioware.r..._truth_dlc.html
ULS 980 wrote...
He goes on about how choosing to destroy the Reapers would actually kill all synthetics.MissMaster_2 wrote...
ULS 980 wrote...
Well he already seemingly lied to you when he said you'd die if you chose the destroy ending.Baihu1983 wrote...
If it was and picking the red explosion is the right option does that mean its lieing when it says all other AI will die like the geth/edi?
So based on that, I'd say it's assumed that the Geth/EDI will not die as well, assuming the theory is correct.
Wait he said you would die if you picked destroy? I don't remember that.
Then he points out that it would include the Geth and EDI.
And then he says something to the effect of "You yourself are also partially synthetic".
ULS 980 wrote...
Well he already seemingly lied to you when he said you'd die if you chose the destroy ending.Baihu1983 wrote...
If it was and picking the red explosion is the right option does that mean its lieing when it says all other AI will die like the geth/edi?
So based on that, I'd say it's assumed that the Geth/EDI will not die as well, assuming the theory is correct.
Exicuren wrote...
Has anyone thought of the injury that Shepard checks after Anderson dies? It´s on the same place as Anderson, and he is not bleeding like Shepard is, one other thing, the center of the platform where you see Anderson is totally flat. When TIM dies, Anderson and Shepard lie down on the floor, leaning againts an elevated surface on the centre of the room, the surface was totally flat. A possibility is that he could have shot himself during the attemp of indoctrination to wake up, or is an ilusion created by harby. Or maybe it's because I'm so tired and I need to get some sleep.
ULS 980 wrote...
Exicuren wrote...
Has anyone thought of the injury that Shepard checks after Anderson dies? It´s on the same place as Anderson, and he is not bleeding like Shepard is, one other thing, the center of the platform where you see Anderson is totally flat. When TIM dies, Anderson and Shepard lie down on the floor, leaning againts an elevated surface on the centre of the room, the surface was totally flat. A possibility is that he could have shot himself during the attemp of indoctrination to wake up, or is an ilusion created by harby. Or maybe it's because I'm so tired and I need to get some sleep.
Well, the only time Shepard gets shot during the whole ending sequence is when Marauder Shields hits him, but that seems to hit Shepard in the upper right body, close to his shoulder.
The bullet wound Anderson takes (and the mirrored wound on Shepard) is in the lower left of his body.
But yes, I have thought of it. Don't entirely know what to make of it.
Like I said, assuming the theory is correct.Baihu1983 wrote...
ULS 980 wrote...
Well he already seemingly lied to you when he said you'd die if you chose the destroy ending.Baihu1983 wrote...
If it was and picking the red explosion is the right option does that mean its lieing when it says all other AI will die like the geth/edi?
So based on that, I'd say it's assumed that the Geth/EDI will not die as well, assuming the theory is correct.
The only problem is we dont see EDI at the end[but then we dont know how the whole squad is suddenly on the normandy rushing to leave the local cluster?]
And maybe Bioware decided just to leave out showing aload of Geth dieing?
This is my main problem all the endings just seem rushed.
Modifié par ULS 980, 16 mars 2012 - 09:02 .
pharsti wrote...
Nop, not an hallucination, just an overdose of your imagination kicking into "ending construct mode!"
Seriously thou, on topic, no, the ending is what you saw, literally what you saw, stop trying to come up with crazy theories worse than what you already got >_>
I guess a lot of peoples imagination was capable of somehow piece together something that left them WITHOUT any sort of ending and still somehow satisfied, weird, but you cant argue with imagination can you.
Auresta wrote...
It's definitely something to take note of. Shepard looks down at his/her wound as if surprised and the player's focus seems intentionally drawn to that through the game. Or it was oversight on the developers' part and we're just getting an indication and reminder of Shepard's mortality.
I pray it is not entirely the latter
leonia42 wrote...
Auresta wrote...
It's definitely something to take note of. Shepard looks down at his/her wound as if surprised and the player's focus seems intentionally drawn to that through the game. Or it was oversight on the developers' part and we're just getting an indication and reminder of Shepard's mortality.
I pray it is not entirely the latter
Shepard died once and all that did was ****** her off.
I was going say that it could be explained (in the context of the theory) by Anderson, in the endgame, representing Shepard's "good side" and TIM representing Shepard's "bad side", and therefore Anderson getting shot would mirror itself on Shepard, but then Shepard shoots TIM, and that doesn't seem to do any damage to Shepard (I can't remember where TIM takes the bullet though).Auresta wrote...
ULS 980 wrote...
Exicuren wrote...
Has anyone thought of the injury that Shepard checks after Anderson dies? It´s on the same place as Anderson, and he is not bleeding like Shepard is, one other thing, the center of the platform where you see Anderson is totally flat. When TIM dies, Anderson and Shepard lie down on the floor, leaning againts an elevated surface on the centre of the room, the surface was totally flat. A possibility is that he could have shot himself during the attemp of indoctrination to wake up, or is an ilusion created by harby. Or maybe it's because I'm so tired and I need to get some sleep.
Well, the only time Shepard gets shot during the whole ending sequence is when Marauder Shields hits him, but that seems to hit Shepard in the upper right body, close to his shoulder.
The bullet wound Anderson takes (and the mirrored wound on Shepard) is in the lower left of his body.
But yes, I have thought of it. Don't entirely know what to make of it.
It's definitely something to take note of. Shepard looks down at his/her wound as if surprised and the player's focus seems intentionally drawn to that through the game. Or it was oversight on the developers' part and we're just getting an indication and reminder of Shepard's mortality.
I pray it is not entirely the latter
ULS 980 wrote...
I was going say that it could be explained (in the context of the theory) by Anderson, in the endgame, representing Shepard's "good side" and TIM representing Shepard's "bad side", and therefore Anderson getting shot would mirror itself on Shepard, but then Shepard shoots TIM, and that doesn't seem to do any damage to Shepard (I can't remember where TIM takes the bullet though).Auresta wrote...
ULS 980 wrote...
Exicuren wrote...
Has anyone thought of the injury that Shepard checks after Anderson dies? It´s on the same place as Anderson, and he is not bleeding like Shepard is, one other thing, the center of the platform where you see Anderson is totally flat. When TIM dies, Anderson and Shepard lie down on the floor, leaning againts an elevated surface on the centre of the room, the surface was totally flat. A possibility is that he could have shot himself during the attemp of indoctrination to wake up, or is an ilusion created by harby. Or maybe it's because I'm so tired and I need to get some sleep.
Well, the only time Shepard gets shot during the whole ending sequence is when Marauder Shields hits him, but that seems to hit Shepard in the upper right body, close to his shoulder.
The bullet wound Anderson takes (and the mirrored wound on Shepard) is in the lower left of his body.
But yes, I have thought of it. Don't entirely know what to make of it.
It's definitely something to take note of. Shepard looks down at his/her wound as if surprised and the player's focus seems intentionally drawn to that through the game. Or it was oversight on the developers' part and we're just getting an indication and reminder of Shepard's mortality.
I pray it is not entirely the latter
So I dunno.
I had to actually replay the ending for my own peace of mind.
Modifié par MissOuJ, 16 mars 2012 - 09:14 .
noobcannon wrote...
MissOuJ wrote...
I have to say I absolutely love this theory, and even if it is a strech, which this is something BioWare intented from the start. Because if they did, they completely fooled me in the end.
Throuhgout the whole series, Shepard's been fighting people who've been indoctrinated (Saren, TIM, Kenson...) and s/he's been like, "Don't you see what you've done/are about to do?!" And then, when the godchild game the choice, I (at first) chose synthesis, because I thought that was the best outcome of those three options.
This was before I read the Indoctrination theory, and after I read it, I was like "****! I was fooled!" I had to actually replay the ending for my own peace of mind.
BTW, if you replay the ending from the point just after Harbinger takes you out, the save says "Citadel: The Return"
The return of what?
...I am intriqued!
Just means you are returning to the Citadel.MissOuJ wrote...
I have to say I absolutely love this theory, and even if it is a strech, which this is something BioWare intented from the start. Because if they did, they completely fooled me in the end.
Throuhgout the whole series, Shepard's been fighting people who've been indoctrinated (Saren, TIM, Kenson...) and s/he's been like, "Don't you see what you've done/are about to do?!" And then, when the godchild game the choice, I (at first) chose synthesis, because I thought that was the best outcome of those three options.
This was before I read the Indoctrination theory, and after I read it, I was like "****! I was fooled!" I had to actually replay the ending for my own peace of mind.
BTW, if you replay the ending from the point just after Harbinger takes you out, the save says "Citadel: The Return"
The return of what?
...I am intriqued!
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BringBackNihlus wrote...
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