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#14951
Elscotto1989

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variobunz wrote...

Dae0 wrote...

MissOuJ wrote...

xZBx wrote...

The following is icing on the cake: 

When the citadel opens its arms, there is zero gravity where they are situated..This means outer space, so how are they walking about? How are they even talking? Outer space has no air, which is the medium for sound.

Also, they'd be frozen in actuality, and the only plausible place where all of this would happen is in a dream/vision, free of all physical limitations. When the Citadel opens its arms in ME1 and you're fighting to get to Sovereign, you're wearing your entire space helmet and you can notice the 0 gravity effect, suggestive of outer space..


That can actually be countered: if I remember correctly, it is said somewhere that the Citadel has massive mass effect fields that create artificial gravity and create a breathable atmosphere.

That said, it doesn't discount the theory, however.


Curious tho, at the end of mass effect 1:
There is gravity in the elevator, but once exiting the elevator gravity seems to cease to be, yet once one reaches the tower, there is gravity again. Leading me to believe that if there is some field that used to induce gravity, it extends only to the surface of the structure, not outside of it.

Although, to play devils advocate, Shephard and Garrus do go to the top of presidium tower for "target practice" at one point in ME3. The use of breathing gear or mag boots is not implied or shown.


The Garrus/Shepard scene was on the huerta memorial hospital. Inside the presidium (the ring). There is always atmosphere.

that scene with garrus is actually started on the docks and you go out to the top of the presidium...:police: 

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variobunz wrote...

Dae0 wrote...

MissOuJ wrote...

xZBx wrote...

The following is icing on the cake: 

When the citadel opens its arms, there is zero gravity where they are situated..This means outer space, so how are they walking about? How are they even talking? Outer space has no air, which is the medium for sound.

Also, they'd be frozen in actuality, and the only plausible place where all of this would happen is in a dream/vision, free of all physical limitations. When the Citadel opens its arms in ME1 and you're fighting to get to Sovereign, you're wearing your entire space helmet and you can notice the 0 gravity effect, suggestive of outer space..


That can actually be countered: if I remember correctly, it is said somewhere that the Citadel has massive mass effect fields that create artificial gravity and create a breathable atmosphere.

That said, it doesn't discount the theory, however.


Curious tho, at the end of mass effect 1:
There is gravity in the elevator, but once exiting the elevator gravity seems to cease to be, yet once one reaches the tower, there is gravity again. Leading me to believe that if there is some field that used to induce gravity, it extends only to the surface of the structure, not outside of it.

Although, to play devils advocate, Shephard and Garrus do go to the top of presidium tower for "target practice" at one point in ME3. The use of breathing gear or mag boots is not implied or shown.


The Garrus/Shepard scene was on the huerta memorial hospital. Inside the presidium (the ring). There is always atmosphere.


Was it? I havent played the game since I beat it a week ago, guess my attempts to block out the ending have resulted in some collateral damage :P.

My mistake.

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Totally Off-topic, but just found an FPS screenshot from the early concept of ME3 MP:

http://www.gamestar....51,2565881.html

Modifié par variobunz, 16 mars 2012 - 10:02 .


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variobunz wrote...

Erethrian wrote...

xZBx wrote...

The following is icing on the cake: 

When the citadel opens its arms, there is zero gravity where they are situated..This means outer space, so how are they walking about? How are they even talking? Outer space has no air, which is the medium for sound.

Also, they'd be frozen in actuality, and the only plausible place where all of this would happen is in a dream/vision, free of all physical limitations. When the Citadel opens its arms in ME1 and you're fighting to get to Sovereign, you're wearing your entire space helmet and you can notice the 0 gravity effect, suggestive of outer space..


Thank you.

I've been saying this the entire time.


That's one of the clearest arguments in our theory. But people still think it was real :devil:


Outer space has no air, which is the medium for sound.




Good to know.

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Dae0 wrote...

Curious tho, at the end of mass effect 1:
There is gravity in the elevator, but once exiting the elevator gravity seems to cease to be, yet once one reaches the tower, there is gravity again. Leading me to believe that if there is some field that used to induce gravity, it extends only to the surface of the structure, not outside of it.

Although, to play devils advocate, Shephard and Garrus do go to the top of presidium tower for "target practice" at one point in ME3. The use of breathing gear or mag boots is not implied or shown.


Yeah, I think it falls under "could go either way" so I don't think it can be counted as evidence towards the Indoctrination theory, but then again, it doesn't go against it either.

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Elscotto1989 wrote...

variobunz wrote...

Dae0 wrote...

MissOuJ wrote...

xZBx wrote...

The following is icing on the cake: 

When the citadel opens its arms, there is zero gravity where they are situated..This means outer space, so how are they walking about? How are they even talking? Outer space has no air, which is the medium for sound.

Also, they'd be frozen in actuality, and the only plausible place where all of this would happen is in a dream/vision, free of all physical limitations. When the Citadel opens its arms in ME1 and you're fighting to get to Sovereign, you're wearing your entire space helmet and you can notice the 0 gravity effect, suggestive of outer space..


That can actually be countered: if I remember correctly, it is said somewhere that the Citadel has massive mass effect fields that create artificial gravity and create a breathable atmosphere.

That said, it doesn't discount the theory, however.


Curious tho, at the end of mass effect 1:
There is gravity in the elevator, but once exiting the elevator gravity seems to cease to be, yet once one reaches the tower, there is gravity again. Leading me to believe that if there is some field that used to induce gravity, it extends only to the surface of the structure, not outside of it.

Although, to play devils advocate, Shephard and Garrus do go to the top of presidium tower for "target practice" at one point in ME3. The use of breathing gear or mag boots is not implied or shown.


The Garrus/Shepard scene was on the huerta memorial hospital. Inside the presidium (the ring). There is always atmosphere.

that scene with garrus is actually started on the docks and you go out to the top of the presidium...:police: 


But still in the Presidium.

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variobunz wrote...

Totally Off-topic, but just found an FPS screenshot from the early concept of ME3 MP:

http://www.gamestar....51,2565881.html


Thank the  Maker  Godess that never happened! *shudder*

Not a big fan of FPS. TP works fine.

But Ego-Shooter is a pretty bad*** term :P

Modifié par MissOuJ, 16 mars 2012 - 10:08 .


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variobunz wrote...

Totally Off-topic, but just found an FPS screenshot from the early concept of ME3 MP:

http://www.gamestar....51,2565881.html


Oh Radar, how I miss thee.

Looks pretty good though.

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variobunz wrote...

Totally Off-topic, but just found an FPS screenshot from the early concept of ME3 MP:

http://www.gamestar....51,2565881.html


Glad they didn't make it into a fps, I hate fps

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Also on the base of the cidatel where it connects.

How has no-one, in the thousands of years around the cidatel noticed the weird arse red and blue conduits on the bottom?

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MissOuJ wrote...

variobunz wrote...

Totally Off-topic, but just found an FPS screenshot from the early concept of ME3 MP:

http://www.gamestar....51,2565881.html


Thank the  Maker  Godess that never happened! *shudder*

Not a big fan of FPS. TP works fine.

But Ego-Shooter is a pretty bad*** term :P


I'm with you on that.  MP still feels 'mass effect'-like which is great :)

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While we wait for official news, I'm going to install and beat the ME1. At least the plot held together.

Modifié par Serlith_, 16 mars 2012 - 10:20 .


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1 page away to 600!

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It's scary how big this thread has grown.
I think.

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Scary but awesome. We're all one big family! Hugs for all!

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Serlith_ wrote...

While we wait for official news, I'm going to install and beat the ME1. At least the plot held together.


While Mass Effect 1 had good story and amazing atmosphere, I can't replay it anymore, not after being spoiled by ME3's gameplay.

So instead, I started a new game +. In addition, the multiplayer is tons of fun, so I can see it occupying most of my free time for the next several months.

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I would've loved a campaign co-op.

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Lugaidster wrote...

1 page away to 600!


And still no one from BW responded in this thread. But I think they just want to wait until more people finished the game before saying something specific. At least I hope so.

Modifié par variobunz, 16 mars 2012 - 10:24 .


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 It's so frustrating when your squad just stays there and gets shot to death...

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variobunz wrote...

Lugaidster wrote...

1 page away to 600!


And still no one from BW responded in this thread. But I think they just want to wait until more peolpe finished the game before saying something specific. At least I hope so.


Yes, they have stated so in twitter and here. They are waiting until most of the player-base has finished the game.

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BiO_MaN wrote...
While Mass Effect 1 had good story and amazing atmosphere, I can't replay it anymore, not after being spoiled by ME3's gameplay.

So instead, I started a new game +. In addition, the multiplayer is tons of fun, so I can see it occupying most of my free time for the next several months.


This. I struggled to replay ME1 after beating ME2 and loving it. Now I find it hard to go back to ME2 because your character looks different in ME2 compared to ME3, unless I create a new dude and have to replay ME1 (ugh). 

Starting New Game + too! Have regular multiplayer matches with a group of buds so all good there.

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BiO_MaN wrote...

Serlith_ wrote...

While we wait for official news, I'm going to install and beat the ME1. At least the plot held together.


While Mass Effect 1 had good story and amazing atmosphere, I can't replay it anymore, not after being spoiled by ME3's gameplay.

So instead, I started a new game +. In addition, the multiplayer is tons of fun, so I can see it occupying most of my free time for the next several months.


I am able to play ME1 as a standalone game, as which it excels greatly.
But true, seeing the end of the journey, setting on it doesn't look AS promising.
But still a lot of fun.

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BiO_MaN wrote...

Yes, they have stated so in twitter and here. They are waiting until most of the player-base has finished the game.


I don't see why they want that... anyone can explain?

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arkhine wrote...

BiO_MaN wrote...

Yes, they have stated so in twitter and here. They are waiting until most of the player-base has finished the game.


I don't see why they want that... anyone can explain?


...because by saying something about the ending they would spoil it for people who aren't finished yet?

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

...because by saying something about the ending they would spoil it for people who aren't finished yet?


Unfortunately people spoiled the ending long before ME3 was even released... this is a spoiler friendly forum regardless.