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Elscotto1989

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

arkhine wrote...

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Yes, they have stated so in twitter and here. They are waiting until most of the player-base has finished the game.


I don't see why they want that... anyone can explain?


...because by saying something about the ending they would spoil it for people who aren't finished yet?

not that they could do any more harm than the ending will do once they finish the game...thus upsetting more fans and making our anti current ending army even stronger so thanks for waiting the tidalwave only grows...

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JediNg

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Mass Effect, summed up: Protheans, Reapers, Saren, indoctrination, Mako, ENEMIES EVERYWHERE! GOGOGO! I will destroy you! ENEMIES EVERYWHERE! GOGOGO! GOGOGO! Vigil, the Citadel is a trap, Shepard is a badass.

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Earthborn_Shepard

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600 pages woohoooo!

#14979
Gamingtrek12025

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wow 600 i remember reading page 140 xD

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Congrats guys :)

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Midna Shepard

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 This is the original concept of the ending by Mac Walters. This is from the new iOS app "The Final Hours". 

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JediNg

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Page 600? Forget that. I'm on my way to page 9001

#14983
arkhine

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Elscotto1989 wrote...
not that they could do any more harm than the ending will do once they finish the game...thus upsetting more fans and making our anti current ending army even stronger so thanks for waiting the tidalwave only grows...


I won't attempt to understand how EA and BW tick but I wonder whether they are going to spring a 'hey, we meant it like that all along' right after ME3 launches everywhere :?

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kent80082006

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

600 pages woohoooo!


You know when this thread first started it brings me hope, now it's grown so evcessively large it brings me nothing more than stress, because at first it started out as a desperate attempt to seek for answers, and now I wanted it to be true so badly.

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Midna Shepard wrote...

 This is the original concept of the ending by Mac Walters. This is from the new iOS app "The Final Hours". 



MysticBinary82 wrote...

Hi guys and gals how is it going?

I just woke up and thought things over. Many said, that the facts in ME final hour would lead to the conclusion, that there where no indoctrination cause it was nowhere written down on that piece of paper. Well that is not true. He wrote something about the Matrix.

The Matrix is a way for maschins to CONTROL humans. It is a DREAMWORLD. An AI/Agent can also ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL over a human/its projection in the Matrix.
That would mean they are not comparing the end of the third Matrix film with ME3s ending. No it is the beginning of the first one when Neo takes the Red Pill.

If someone already pointed this out, than sorry.

I still hold the line.


that is my conclusion

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

arkhine wrote...

BiO_MaN wrote...

Yes, they have stated so in twitter and here. They are waiting until most of the player-base has finished the game.


I don't see why they want that... anyone can explain?


...because by saying something about the ending they would spoil it for people who aren't finished yet?


Actually it is a bit dumb. They could just talk to us about the endings on this forum section, where spoilers are allowed... Instead we get this damn teasing from Jessica Merizan on twitter :mellow:...

...oh god that didnt sound right what is this...

#14987
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arkhine wrote...

Elscotto1989 wrote...
not that they could do any more harm than the ending will do once they finish the game...thus upsetting more fans and making our anti current ending army even stronger so thanks for waiting the tidalwave only grows...


I won't attempt to understand how EA and BW tick but I wonder whether they are going to spring a 'hey, we meant it like that all along' right after ME3 launches everywhere :?


Uh... I'm pretty sure many fans will say they're lying. I don't care because it makes sense. Complaining about that is as stupid as complaining about the charity of the RetakeME3 movement. No one is affected by it and the outcome is a positive one.

Cheers.

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Chowaniec

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Elscotto1989 wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

arkhine wrote...

BiO_MaN wrote...

Yes, they have stated so in twitter and here. They are waiting until most of the player-base has finished the game.


I don't see why they want that... anyone can explain?


...because by saying something about the ending they would spoil it for people who aren't finished yet?

not that they could do any more harm than the ending will do once they finish the game...thus upsetting more fans and making our anti current ending army even stronger so thanks for waiting the tidalwave only grows...


I think they're rather counting on that more players that will complete the game later will be satisfied with given endings. Also all angry fans will calm a bit, and start accepting sad reality... :crying:

Modifié par Chowaniec, 16 mars 2012 - 10:43 .


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kent80082006

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BiO_MaN wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

arkhine wrote...

BiO_MaN wrote...

Yes, they have stated so in twitter and here. They are waiting until most of the player-base has finished the game.


I don't see why they want that... anyone can explain?


...because by saying something about the ending they would spoil it for people who aren't finished yet?


Actually it is a bit dumb. They could just talk to us about the endings on this forum section, where spoilers are allowed... Instead we get this damn teasing from Jessica Merizan on twitter :mellow:...

...oh god that didnt sound right what is this...


Because any bit of extra information they leak out will not be confined to this forum, it will spread like wildfire and by tomorrow half of the people playing this game will know

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arkhine

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BiO_MaN wrote...
Actually it is a bit dumb. They could just talk to us about the endings on this forum section, where spoilers are allowed... Instead we get this damn teasing from Jessica Merizan on twitter :mellow:...

...oh god that didnt sound right what is this...


Would it kill them to discuss things with us :(

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JediNg wrote...

Mass Effect, summed up: Protheans, Reapers, Saren, indoctrination, Mako, ENEMIES EVERYWHERE! GOGOGO! I will destroy you! ENEMIES EVERYWHERE! GOGOGO! GOGOGO! Vigil, the Citadel is a trap, Shepard is a badass.



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arkhine

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Lugaidster wrote...
Uh... I'm pretty sure many fans will say they're lying. I don't care because it makes sense. Complaining about that is as stupid as complaining about the charity of the RetakeME3 movement. No one is affected by it and the outcome is a positive one.

Cheers.


I meant the original endings, but if they said WE were right all along with this theory, what would the reaction be?

#14993
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arkhine wrote...

Elscotto1989 wrote...
not that they could do any more harm than the ending will do once they finish the game...thus upsetting more fans and making our anti current ending army even stronger so thanks for waiting the tidalwave only grows...


I won't attempt to understand how EA and BW tick but I wonder whether they are going to spring a 'hey, we meant it like that all along' right after ME3 launches everywhere :?


According to Casey Hudson, the endings were made ambiguous on purpose...

http://news.softpedi...le-258527.shtml

#14994
Lugaidster

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Chowaniec wrote...

I think they're rather counting on that more players that will complete the game later will be content with given endings. Also all angry fans will calm a bit, and start accepting sad reality...


Why do this people keep entering this thread... GAWD! If you wanna go play acceptance game, go play it! Leave us with our theories! No one's craping on your food, why do you have to do it in ours?!

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lex0r11

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back again, any news?

#14996
arkhine

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Chowaniec wrote...
I think they're rather counting on that more players that will complete the game later will be satisfied with given endings. Also all angry fans will calm a bit, and start accepting sad reality... :crying:


Regardless... every day people are deciding not to buy the game or to sell it. I wonder how many pre-orders were cancelled?

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MysticBinary82 wrote...

Midna Shepard wrote...

 This is the original concept of the ending by Mac Walters. This is from the new iOS app "The Final Hours". 



MysticBinary82 wrote...

Hi guys and gals how is it going?

I just woke up and thought things over. Many said, that the facts in ME final hour would lead to the conclusion, that there where no indoctrination cause it was nowhere written down on that piece of paper. Well that is not true. He wrote something about the Matrix.

The Matrix is a way for maschins to CONTROL humans. It is a DREAMWORLD. An AI/Agent can also ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL over a human/its projection in the Matrix.
That would mean they are not comparing the end of the third Matrix film with ME3s ending. No it is the beginning of the first one when Neo takes the Red Pill.

If someone already pointed this out, than sorry.

I still hold the line.


that is my conclusion


Mine too, that has to mean something. For me, the indoctrination theory works, and makes sense.

#14998
arkhine

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BiO_MaN wrote...
According to Casey Hudson, the endings were made ambiguous on purpose...

http://news.softpedi...le-258527.shtml


Unforgettable in quite the wrong way. I will remember this **** storm rather than the endings. Luckily the rest of the game was quite an experience.

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arkhine wrote...

Lugaidster wrote...
Uh... I'm pretty sure many fans will say they're lying. I don't care because it makes sense. Complaining about that is as stupid as complaining about the charity of the RetakeME3 movement. No one is affected by it and the outcome is a positive one.

Cheers.


I meant the original endings, but if they said WE were right all along with this theory, what would the reaction be?


I'd be pretty happy. They did make my life hell for a few days, but it's a pretty good way to experience the game for real. If the theory is true and they deliver a DLC I just can't imagine how it could go after waking up. I'm not expecting gameplay though, just an epilogue. 

Cheers

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^more than what we have now.