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[Mr. Mistake]

So, I have a question.

If indeed this theory is correct, which I wholeheartedly hope it is, what are they waiting for to reveal it to us?

Because if the ending is really going to be some kind of DLC, I doubt they're still developing/designing it.

[Aeson]

On hearing two bursts of sound that are a lot like growls during the vent scene with the child. At the end when the Illusive man is controlling you and Anderson every now and then i'm sure you can hear the same 'growling'.

[Ms_Alison_Gunn]

Descedent wrote...

VanDex wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...

Some times I feel like this thread is an American English class where Mass Effect 3 was our assigned book we all had to read and the teacher (BioWare) told us to discuss the "symbolism and why the events happened" in the book. Some say "Because the writer wanted to have the character do that" while others are taking points from the book and supporting why its more than "just cause".

 (English major here).

you poor soul

Hahahaha! I'm an Englsih Major too and I feel the exact same way!

[FrozenDreamfall]

Finally! had the game for a damn week and couldn't register...in the meanwhile think I looked at all the ME3 sites with news,reviews,even made a twitter for it,I've been itching to reply to this awesome indoctrination theory on this thread and now I finally can,yay! thanks to the OP again,amazing job,lets just hope it's true.After seeing the ipad or whatever it was app for ME3 and an ending script I went WTF like everyone and try to convince myself it's ok...if not,well lets just say this thread alone made me get the game and actually enjoy it,so thank you,more people should see this.Even if this isn't the real ending I don't care,for me it is,it makes too much sense,

[TheRaggyGandalf]

Ms_Alison_Gunn wrote...

Descedent wrote...

VanDex wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...

Some times I feel like this thread is an American English class where Mass Effect 3 was our assigned book we all had to read and the teacher (BioWare) told us to discuss the "symbolism and why the events happened" in the book. Some say "Because the writer wanted to have the character do that" while others are taking points from the book and supporting why its more than "just cause".

 (English major here).

you poor soul

Hahahaha! I'm an Englsih Major too and I feel the exact same way!

That reminds me of (native) German class back in the last years of school, where all those books where so "great" because they didn't provide answers but forced the reader to reflect. I hated them...

"Faust" was the only one I enjoyed because it actually had an ending^^

[TheRevanchist]

I find a slight problem with


Illusive Man can shoot himself.....how does that apply to this?

[blueboxblues]

Mr. Mistake wrote...

So, I have a question.

If indeed this theory is correct, which I wholeheartedly hope it is, what are they waiting for to reveal it to us?

Because if the ending is really going to be some kind of DLC, I doubt they're still developing/designing it.

Asia just got ME3 yesterday, so they're going to give everyone time to play through it so they don't spoil anything. They have a panel at PAX East in three weeks, and Shepard's birthday is April 11, so if/when they say anything my guess is it would be somewhere around there.

[Ms_Alison_Gunn]

TheRaggyGandalf wrote...

Ms_Alison_Gunn wrote...

Descedent wrote...

VanDex wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...

Some times I feel like this thread is an American English class where Mass Effect 3 was our assigned book we all had to read and the teacher (BioWare) told us to discuss the "symbolism and why the events happened" in the book. Some say "Because the writer wanted to have the character do that" while others are taking points from the book and supporting why its more than "just cause".

 (English major here).

you poor soul

Hahahaha! I'm an Englsih Major too and I feel the exact same way!

That reminds me of (native) German class back in the last years of school, where all those books where so "great" because they didn't provide answers but forced the reader to reflect. I hated them...

"Faust" was the only one I enjoyed because it actually had an ending^^

Yeah I hate those types of books so much and then to see my favorite game seires go that route just broke my heart. I found it very frustrating. But I am hoping this theory holds up to be true because right now it is the only thing that is making ME3 playabe again. 

[TheRaggyGandalf]

On an related node that reminds me of english class.

We read "The Crucible" (no pun intended ) I kinda enjoyed until the end which was also ****ty

[camcon2100]

kylecouch wrote...

I find a slight problem with


Illusive Man can shoot himself.....how does that apply to this?

It is not unlike what happend to Saren. Shepard's mind is replaying the same scenario. 

[VanDex]

@TheRaggyGandalf

See, the thing is (and I'm sure somebody's already mentioned that in the thread) that a game is a much more personal and interactive experience compared to books, films and tv series, and that's where all the hate at the endings comes from.
It's not about "Oh, I don't like where you went with the ending thing, Bioware!", but rather "I don't like that i hardly decide anything in the end, even though i was promised otherwise".
As for books and films, some of the finest ones I've seen/read are actually the ones with ambiguity everywhere, the ones that encourage you to make your own conclusions (Nolan's Memento immediately comes to mind).

Modifié par VanDex, 16 mars 2012 - 02:51 .

[savionen]

simfamSP wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

I find a slight problem with


Illusive Man can shoot himself.....how does that apply to this?

It's mostly all symbolic, so think of the message behind these things.

I doubt BioWare are THAT good though :-/ who knows... I am starting to doubt this theory since it tends to read into things I don't think even BioWare would think of. If Chris Avellon was in the project then sure, but he isn't...

I agree, with the Final Hours stuff I'm starting to think it's more of a big mistake, but, having 2 main antagonists die exactly the same way would just be terrible storytelling.

[TheRaggyGandalf]

VanDex wrote...

@TheRaggyGandalf

See, the thing is (and I'm sure somebody's already mentioned that in the thread) that a game is a much more personal and interactive experience compared to books, films and tv series, and that's where all the hate at the endings comes from. It's not about "Oh, I don't like where you went with the ending thing, Bioware!", but rather "I don't like that i hardly decide anything in the end, even though i was promised otherwise". As for books and films, some of the finest ones I've seen/read are actually the ones with ambiguity everywhere, the ones that encourage you to make your own conclusions (Nolan's Memento immediately comes to mind).

I never said I liked the ending for mass effect I hate it as much as those books.
Probably even more since as you said you crafted parts of the story and the complete loss of control ( ) at the end is enfuriating

Modifié par TheRaggyGandalf, 16 mars 2012 - 02:52 .

[TheRevanchist]

simfamSP wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

I find a slight problem with


Illusive Man can shoot himself.....how does that apply to this?

It's mostly all symbolic, so think of the message behind these things.

I doubt BioWare are THAT good though :-/ who knows... I am starting to doubt this theory since it tends to read into things I don't think even BioWare would think of. If Chris Avellon was in the project then sure, but he isn't...

See thats the only reason I don't believe this....I don't think Bioware is anywhere near that talented...I reeeaallly don't. DA2 proved that to me personally, sure their different teams and all...but still.

[Cryorex]

Different teams. Different people.

[obie191970]

Warning
 

Caution


Danger


Just sayin...

[MJF JD]

lol nice pics

[savionen]

kylecouch wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

I find a slight problem with


Illusive Man can shoot himself.....how does that apply to this?

It's mostly all symbolic, so think of the message behind these things.

I doubt BioWare are THAT good though :-/ who knows... I am starting to doubt this theory since it tends to read into things I don't think even BioWare would think of. If Chris Avellon was in the project then sure, but he isn't...

See thats the only reason I don't believe this....I don't think Bioware is anywhere near that talented...I reeeaallly don't. DA2 proved that to me personally, sure their different teams and all...but still.

DA2 was also one of the buggiest RPGs I've ever played, and DA2's graphics don't even come close to ME2 or ME3's. (I still enjoyed DA2, but just saying.) Same company, different artists, different writers, different QA, different amount of people working on it, etc.

Modifié par savionen, 16 mars 2012 - 02:59 .

[TheRaggyGandalf]

MJF JD wrote...

lol nice pics

Sign Language?

edit: What I mean is if we are interpreting anything. One could try to see if the kid is doing official sign language

Modifié par TheRaggyGandalf, 16 mars 2012 - 03:00 .

[savionen]

TheRaggyGandalf wrote...

MJF JD wrote...

lol nice pics

Sign Language?

ba dum tish?

[Capeo]

kylecouch wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

I find a slight problem with


Illusive Man can shoot himself.....how does that apply to this?

It's mostly all symbolic, so think of the message behind these things.

I doubt BioWare are THAT good though :-/ who knows... I am starting to doubt this theory since it tends to read into things I don't think even BioWare would think of. If Chris Avellon was in the project then sure, but he isn't...

See thats the only reason I don't believe this....I don't think Bioware is anywhere near that talented...I reeeaallly don't. DA2 proved that to me personally, sure their different teams and all...but still.

There's a million more reasons not to believe it.  The interviews in the app.  The leaked script that matches the end exactly and makes no mention of indoctrination.  The fact that game it self tells you you one no matter the ending.  The fact the epilogue makes it clear the events are real and fires after every ending.  The tweets last night where she said again this is the end of Shep's story and discussing the non-destroy endings as though they are real as well as the Normandy escape shown in all three endings.  The simple fact that even Bioware would never, ever withold the real ending to cash in on it later.  They would be crucified.  They would have had to mean this game actually only have ONE ending.  No choice at all at the end.  The entire fanbase would have to replay the endings with enough EMS (only to be gotten through MP) to get the supposed "real ending" to even continue the story which they would never, ever do.  The whole indoc theory is ridiculously grasping at straws to a degree I've never even seen before.

[TheRevanchist]

savionen wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

I find a slight problem with


Illusive Man can shoot himself.....how does that apply to this?

It's mostly all symbolic, so think of the message behind these things.

I doubt BioWare are THAT good though :-/ who knows... I am starting to doubt this theory since it tends to read into things I don't think even BioWare would think of. If Chris Avellon was in the project then sure, but he isn't...

See thats the only reason I don't believe this....I don't think Bioware is anywhere near that talented...I reeeaallly don't. DA2 proved that to me personally, sure their different teams and all...but still.

DA2 was also one of the buggiest RPGs I've ever played, and DA2's graphics don't even come close to ME2 or ME3's. (I still enjoyed DA2, but just saying.) Same company, different artists, different writers, different QA, different amount of people working on it, etc.

Yes I know all that...but I just can't imagine their writers being that awsome....considering the DA team basiclly called us idiots for not understanding their "brilliance" when it came to the writeing......I mean....yea.

[MysticBinary82]

Has anyone read the datapad after the goodbye sequence with liara? In which a person is beeing in the process of indotrination. Can someone look if I am right? I just can't start the game it would make me cry.

[Uezurii]

obie191970 wrote...

Warning
 

Just sayin...

I like how there goes a bolt into the head on that sign too, like...indoctrination maybe.