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Was the ending a hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory


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njfluffy19

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MysticBinary82 wrote...

Has anyone read the datapad after the goodbye sequence with liara? In which a person is beeing in the process of indotrination. Can someone look if I am right? I just can't start the game it would make me cry.


What do you mean?

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Uezurii wrote...

obie191970 wrote...

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Just sayin...


I like how there goes a bolt into the head on that sign too, like...indoctrination maybe. ;)



you know just to add critisism if the building just exploded what are the chances of that vent being electrified still?

but yeah the "warning, caution, danger" stuff is a bit weird as well as that kid in general

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Anyone know how to post a picture here? I have a good one...

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Uezurii wrote...

obie191970 wrote...

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Just sayin...


I like how there goes a bolt into the head on that sign too, like...indoctrination maybe. ;)


Ha! Like a Reaper beam to the FACE. Good catch obie!

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njfluffy19 wrote...

MysticBinary82 wrote...

Has anyone read the datapad after the goodbye sequence with liara? In which a person is beeing in the process of indotrination. Can someone look if I am right? I just can't start the game it would make me cry.


What do you mean?


It was unclear scribbel of a havyly influenced person. Something that if he goes near the conduit the pain or noise or voices in his head would go away but that he does not want to obey them and that he knows what to do.

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Here's a couple screens of the kid at the beginning, haven't seen any from this scene posted.

oi43.tinypic.com/91bipj.jpg - Kid running towards the locked door.

oi41.tinypic.com/33de4oh.jpg - Kid entering locked door.

oi42.tinypic.com/2i0u6f5.jpg - Reaper beam blew up the floor the kid was on.

Modifié par Gudmoore, 16 mars 2012 - 03:18 .


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Gudmoore wrote...

Here's a couple screens of the kid at the beginning, haven't seen any from this scene posted.

oi43.tinypic.com/91bipj.jpg - Kid running towards the locked door.

oi41.tinypic.com/33de4oh.jpg - Kid entering locked door.

oi42.tinypic.com/2i0u6f5.jpg - Reaper beam blew up the floor the kid was on.




I've never seen him at that section before. I think those might be shopped.

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They are not shopped, I checked for myself and can confirm it's real, and VERY odd.

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Goddy10 wrote...

Gudmoore wrote...

Here's a couple screens of the kid at the beginning, haven't seen any from this scene posted.

oi43.tinypic.com/91bipj.jpg - Kid running towards the locked door.

oi41.tinypic.com/33de4oh.jpg - Kid entering locked door.

oi42.tinypic.com/2i0u6f5.jpg - Reaper beam blew up the floor the kid was on.




I've never seen him at that section before. I think those might be shopped.


It's not. Someone posted a video on youtube where you can clearly see him running into the building.

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Goddy10 wrote...

Gudmoore wrote...

Here's a couple screens of the kid at the beginning, haven't seen any from this scene posted.

oi43.tinypic.com/91bipj.jpg - Kid running towards the locked door.

oi41.tinypic.com/33de4oh.jpg - Kid entering locked door.

oi42.tinypic.com/2i0u6f5.jpg - Reaper beam blew up the floor the kid was on.




I've never seen him at that section before. I think those might be shopped.


100% real there has been videos of this scene in this thread.

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MysticBinary82 wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

MysticBinary82 wrote...

Has anyone read the datapad after the goodbye sequence with liara? In which a person is beeing in the process of indotrination. Can someone look if I am right? I just can't start the game it would make me cry.


What do you mean?


It was unclear scribbel of a havyly influenced person. Something that if he goes near the conduit the pain or noise or voices in his head would go away but that he does not want to obey them and that he knows what to do.


Yep, it was actually quite interesting. I don't remember if it was talking about the Conduit in specific, but I took it to mean that we had an unstable mind among us.

His writing starts out fairly normal, then slowly the spelling and coherency drastically drop, until, at the end, he all of a sudden starts writing normally again saying, "I know what to do"

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Gudmoore wrote...

Here's a couple screens of the kid at the beginning, haven't seen any from this scene posted.

oi43.tinypic.com/91bipj.jpg - Kid running towards the locked door.

oi41.tinypic.com/33de4oh.jpg - Kid entering locked door.

oi42.tinypic.com/2i0u6f5.jpg - Reaper beam blew up the floor the kid was on.




My bigger question is, who plays a Sentinel in singleplayer? :blink:


But yeah, they're definitely real. :P

Modifié par savionen, 16 mars 2012 - 03:27 .


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Descedent wrote...

Goddy10 wrote...

Gudmoore wrote...

Here's a couple screens of the kid at the beginning, haven't seen any from this scene posted.

oi43.tinypic.com/91bipj.jpg - Kid running towards the locked door.

oi41.tinypic.com/33de4oh.jpg - Kid entering locked door.

oi42.tinypic.com/2i0u6f5.jpg - Reaper beam blew up the floor the kid was on.




I've never seen him at that section before. I think those might be shopped.


100% real there has been videos of this scene in this thread.


It's real, just played it and tried to shoot at it, didn't work :P

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savionen wrote...

Gudmoore wrote...

Here's a couple screens of the kid at the beginning, haven't seen any from this scene posted.

oi43.tinypic.com/91bipj.jpg - Kid running towards the locked door.

oi41.tinypic.com/33de4oh.jpg - Kid entering locked door.

oi42.tinypic.com/2i0u6f5.jpg - Reaper beam blew up the floor the kid was on.




My bigger question is, who plays a Sentinel in singleplayer? :blink:


But yeah, they're definitely real. :P

Hey, hey. Sentinels are badass :P

And I can't believe I haven't noticed the kid there before. That is interesting indeed.

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Gudmoore

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savionen wrote...

Gudmoore wrote...

Here's a couple screens of the kid at the beginning, haven't seen any from this scene posted.

oi43.tinypic.com/91bipj.jpg - Kid running towards the locked door.

oi41.tinypic.com/33de4oh.jpg - Kid entering locked door.

oi42.tinypic.com/2i0u6f5.jpg - Reaper beam blew up the floor the kid was on.




My bigger question is, who plays a Sentinel in singleplayer? :blink:


But yeah, they're definitely real. :P


I have a Soldier and Infiltrator too. =P So sue me. XD

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Just for a lil humor:

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njfluffy19

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redBadger14 wrote...

Just for a lil humor: *snip*


Ahh, what an endboss battle that was.

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I've been thinking about the Crucible and how alot of it doesn't add up, for example if its been worked for so many cycles, why haven't the reapers caught on to it, why are they letting the aliance construct the thing, never once attempting to destroy it, or at the very least attempt to sabotage it? Why bring the catalyst directly above their friggin heads, making the crucible a more effective weapon against them, do they even shoot at the crucible when the aliance floats it towards the citidel? Harbinger lands away from citidel entrance and just blasts at people running toward, why doesn't it just land in front of the friggin beam and block everyone from entering, or at least have a **** load of reapers blocking your way? The weapon that can defeat them is left guarded by one damn marauder, really? Leads me to believe that they want this to happen. I mean, they brought the entire citidel to Earth, to shepards back yard.

Modifié par jackncoke28, 16 mars 2012 - 03:40 .


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Out of curiosity... Who on earth has a vent in their home that is electrified? What kind of purpose would that even serve?

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jackncoke28 wrote...

I've been thinking about the Crucible and how alot of it doesn't add up, for example if its been worked for so many cycles, why haven't the reapers caught on to it, why are they letting the aliance construct the thing, never once attempting to destroy it, or at the very least attempt to sabotage it? Why bring the catalyst directly above their friggin heads, making the crucible a more effective weapon against them, do they even shoot at the crucible when the aliance floats it towards the citidel? Harbinger lands away from citidel entrance and just blasts at people running toward, why doesn't it just land in front of the friggin beam and block everyone from entering, or at least have a **** load of reapers blocking your way? The weapon that can defeat them is left guarded by one damn marauder, really? Leads me to believe that they want this to happen. I mean, they brought the entire citidel to Earth, to shepards back yard.


Well executed point.
Could always be explained away as space magic. :wizard:

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Goddy10 wrote...

Gudmoore wrote...

Here's a couple screens of the kid at the beginning, haven't seen any from this scene posted.

oi43.tinypic.com/91bipj.jpg - Kid running towards the locked door.

oi41.tinypic.com/33de4oh.jpg - Kid entering locked door.

oi42.tinypic.com/2i0u6f5.jpg - Reaper beam blew up the floor the kid was on.




I've never seen him at that section before. I think those might be shopped.


I saw the kid run into the building, then the Reaper beam destroyed the building.  I thought it was supposed to evoke emotions of helplessness in Shepard, foreshadowing that there are some people he won't be able to save.  I was shocked when the kid jumped into the escape transports later - that struck me as very weird.  Now that I'm pondering the indoctrination theory, I see that sequence in a very different way.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 16 mars 2012 - 03:42 .


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Martukis wrote...

Out of curiosity... Who on earth has a vent in their home that is electrified? What kind of purpose would that even serve?

Killing rodents?

#15223
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You guys are reading into the lines way too much. After reading the journalistic piece on the final hours of Mass Effect 3, everything seems clear now. Casey and crew make it clear they wanted a more artistic ending, that meant scrapping a giant epic Illusive man boss fight. This also meant having all players having a unified and similar experience at the end (Hence the same endings).

The ending was/was not a hallucination. Shepard's story is over. They brought in Buzz Aldrin to voice the Grandpa at the end of the stargazer sequence for crying outloud. You think they did that for no reason? It's left "open and for speculation". Anything is possible but that's just it - they want it to be like that - and no prodding of the little kid in Vancouver will bring anything.

There is no resolution, it's meant to be like that.

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Martukis wrote...

Out of curiosity... Who on earth has a vent in their home that is electrified? What kind of purpose would that even serve?


It is a the new space vent prototype the alliance plans to integrate into their death star.

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I've seen people open saves with some sort of tool for the PC, anyone know what it is?