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Was the ending a hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory


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I havent really noticed any hums or buzzing noises. The one in the shuttle bay I always thought was from the ship itself.

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I think it was an Hallucination either I did have too many shroom's or Bioware think a pretty color is an acceptable ending. Ah well I shall just Alt F4 when Shepard and Anderson have their last chat.

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Giskler wrote...

I havent really noticed any hums or buzzing noises. The one in the shuttle bay I always thought was from the ship itself.


It happens in a number of the priority missions. I think the one I was most aware of was on Thessia, immediately after reading this thread I went into the temple and had the chat with the VI. The sound happens near the end of the conversation I think when Kai Leng walks up.

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Giskler wrote...

I havent really noticed any hums or buzzing noises. The one in the shuttle bay I always thought was from the ship itself.


reaper IFF?

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I've given my views on the ending. but I'll reiterate why i don't think it's the end. If it really was the end of the game with the game we got they would not put as much emphasis onto holding onto everything. They know, I can guarandamntee that, if they said something like that and a MP pack came out? the resulting explosion would make the Arrival relay explosion look like a bottle rocket.

They are being coy on purpose. They've already stated that the Final Hours thing is just for fun, and is not canon (Jessica merizan Tweet).

While I don't like being kept in the dark I can understand it. But I will point out the fact that the silence is akin to stretching a rubber band(the playerbase) if they keep stretching it for too long without more information eventually the band will snap. They are walking a razor's edge.

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 Oh so I'm playing ME2 again so I can get some stuff over to ME3 that I missed out on.
I'm playing the Arrival DLC again and there's that scene around :30 

I always forget how intense that is. I've also been thinking about the presence of the reaper IFF since I found out its a physical object. 

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Giskler wrote...

Its quite odd since the stenciling makes it look like Alliance letters. The structure bit that its on also looks like Alliance tech, not like the rest of the Citadel.


You know how people would dream about visiting Louvre, but never actually been there, so their subconsciousness fills in the blanks with footage of any random palace they've seen?

That section is either very clever, or very lazy...

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tettenjager wrote...

something completely off topic
http://i0.kym-cdn.co...267/988/50e.png

that guy should get a medal

Posting with image tags in case people aren't able to copy/paste the link (mobile devices)

This kid won Twitter lol

 
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Modifié par redBadger14, 16 mars 2012 - 11:36 .


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Vandicus wrote...

Giskler wrote...

I havent really noticed any hums or buzzing noises. The one in the shuttle bay I always thought was from the ship itself.


It happens in a number of the priority missions. I think the one I was most aware of was on Thessia, immediately after reading this thread I went into the temple and had the chat with the VI. The sound happens near the end of the conversation I think when Kai Leng walks up.


Isnt that Kai Lengs theme? Pretty sure it plays every time you run into him.

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Giskler wrote...

I havent really noticed any hums or buzzing noises. The one in the shuttle bay I always thought was from the ship itself.


I had headphones on for the entire game and humming and buzzes popped up a few times thoughout the game- I thought it was a bug or incompatibility with my sound card or something.

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Just got home from work. Any highlights from twitter today?

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Hashbeth wrote...

Your squad lives if you are over 5000+ readiness.

The under 5000 line "Our forces are destroyed...no survivors"
The over 5000 lines "Our forces are decimated...regroup"


Really? Is there actually a difference?

Modifié par Flammenpanzer, 16 mars 2012 - 11:43 .


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Vandicus wrote...

Rage735 wrote...

Why would the previous cycles even design a pair of handles you can grab to take control of the reapers if they intend to destroy it?

It all seems very bizarre when you sit back and think about it!!


It is bizarre that the Crucible that engineers built to do one thing has three different parts that allow you to do two things besides its intended purpose, and that Shepard has to shoot the device in order to get it started.


In regard to all the stuff on page 620 about the oddities on the crucible... they weren't on the crucible. They were on the citadel. Which is by far more strange, especially when there's inexplicably a pair of small human-style towers at the spot where you get off the "elevator." No organics have ever been there? Human objects already there? &*%$?

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redBadger14 wrote...

tettenjager wrote...

something completely off topic
http://i0.kym-cdn.co...267/988/50e.png

that guy should get a medal

Posting with image tags in case people aren't able to copy/paste the link (mobile devices)

This kid won Twitter lol

 
Posted Image

Yea. Greatest troll ever. But seriously, ending would be even worse if you couldn't see colour. You wouldn't even know which stupid option was which.

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Cloud Varis wrote...

Vandicus wrote...

Rage735 wrote...

Why would the previous cycles even design a pair of handles you can grab to take control of the reapers if they intend to destroy it?

It all seems very bizarre when you sit back and think about it!!


It is bizarre that the Crucible that engineers built to do one thing has three different parts that allow you to do two things besides its intended purpose, and that Shepard has to shoot the device in order to get it started.


In regard to all the stuff on page 620 about the oddities on the crucible... they weren't on the crucible. They were on the citadel. Which is by far more strange, especially when there's inexplicably a pair of small human-style towers at the spot where you get off the "elevator." No organics have ever been there? Human objects already there? &*%$?

Agreed. And that everything (the elevator, and much of the other features of the citadel/catalyst) are all tailored to human sized organics. So if commander shepard was an Elcor he/she would be screwed.

Modifié par GunMoth, 16 mars 2012 - 11:46 .


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Flammenpanzer wrote...

Hashbeth wrote...

Your squad lives if you are over 5000+ readiness.

The under 5000 line "Our forces are destroyed...no survivors"
The over 5000 lines "Our forces are decimated...regroup"


Really? Is there actually a difference?


The child also says "Wake up" instead of "what are YOU doing here?" When you enter the catalyst area.

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sgreco1970 wrote...

in other words, you want bioware to make a dlc that says, 'it was all just a dream. Bobby is alive and in the shower?"

I wouldnt buy it and I'd hate the fact they stooped to doing it.

The ending was grand. leave it be.


When you put it that way... it makes it sound like you're an as****e.

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Btw not sure if this is related in anyway but dr chakwas scanned me when she came aboard the ship and i figured at some point there would be a answer to if she found anything, did i miss something?, thought that would be a sly way to find if something is up.

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Rifneno wrote...

Vandicus wrote...

So I was wondering about what 1M1 meant since we seem to have concluded that its on the Citadel rather than the Crucible. I found a thread suggesting it could be a date reference, 1 month and 1 day from release, and that just happens to fall on PAX. Maybe we learn the truth then?


Woah.  Okay I've never been a believer that the 1m1 meant anything, but that's a hell of a coincidence.


1M1 is outside the Citadel in ME1 as well. You can clearly see a part of the presidium has that logo when you shoot out the window to the elevator at the end of the game.

It's nothing special, people are looking waaaayy too much into 1M1.

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SpikePoint wrote...

Giskler wrote...

I havent really noticed any hums or buzzing noises. The one in the shuttle bay I always thought was from the ship itself.


I had headphones on for the entire game and humming and buzzes popped up a few times thoughout the game- I thought it was a bug or incompatibility with my sound card or something.


Its not as subtle as that. It has a slight similarity to the sound Reapers make when they fire, and is more akin to synthetic growling than humming imo. I'm searching a video right now for the sound on Thessia.

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Quickdraw wrote...

Btw not sure if this is related in anyway but dr chakwas scanned me when she came aboard the ship and i figured at some point there would be a answer to if she found anything, did i miss something?, thought that would be a sly way to find if something is up.


Its the same as the prothean VI.  There's nothing to scan for if you're not indoctrinated.
Shep isn't indoctrinated.
Shep is in the process of fighting off indoctrination

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Lugaidster wrote...

sgreco1970 wrote...

in other words, you want bioware to make a dlc that says, 'it was all just a dream. Bobby is alive and in the shower?"

I wouldnt buy it and I'd hate the fact they stooped to doing it.

The ending was grand. leave it be.


When you put it that way... it makes it sound like you're an as****e.

Agreed. All the opponents of this theory are so hostile towards it. I don't really get why it's so hard for them to discuss it logically instead.

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This makes so much sense hopefully Bioware listens

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I have a tought a long time in my head. What is, if ME3 is almost all a Dream? What is, if you where injured after the building the kid ran into exploded? That would realy be a mind****. It would be cool if you could replay all what happend but this time with slightly different outcomes and the proper ending and taking earth back.

Well maybe I am to desperate right now, don't know.

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Cloud Varis wrote...

Lugaidster wrote...

sgreco1970 wrote...

in other words, you want bioware to make a dlc that says, 'it was all just a dream. Bobby is alive and in the shower?"

I wouldnt buy it and I'd hate the fact they stooped to doing it.

The ending was grand. leave it be.


When you put it that way... it makes it sound like you're an as****e.

Agreed. All the opponents of this theory are so hostile towards it. I don't really get why it's so hard for them to discuss it logically instead.


Agreed agreed. Its silly because most of the hate threads or "holes in the indoctrination theory!!!11" threads are either:

a) Completely incorrect and don't understand the indoctrination theory.
B) Try to use the prothean VI as evidence further proving their lack of understanding.
c) Say that this fanbase is deconstructive (which I don't understand at ALL). 
d) Are people who think the ending is amazing and shouldn't be touched at all (and if thats the case, just stop lurking the forums and dont buy the upcoming dlc!)