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AtlasMickey

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Not sure if anyone posted this yet, but...

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So, um.. no... not a hallucination.

Unless! BUZZ ALDRIN IS A REAPER

>OMGIT MAKESSOMUCH SENSE NAAOOOOO

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T_l_M_B_0 wrote...

Lol anyone else think trolls are funny? Any post that begins with "I enjoyed the ending" is clearly just trying to stir up some trouble.


I don't think it's fair to assume anyone who liked the ending is a troll.  People have different tastes.  Some cultures find candied cockroach (hello vulgarity filter) a delicacy.  Personally, I'd rather starve to death.  It's difficult if not impossible to understand someone having a preference for something you hate, but that doesn't mean their preference isn't genuine.

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bearcatfan14181 wrote...

MysticBinary82 wrote...

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Just because I have a different opinion doesn't mean I'm a troll. I didn't realize the Bioware community was so intolerant.


No but because you said that it is genuis, that whatever we did was pointless so why play at all, why unite the galaxy, why not just lay down and die? Why fight because a beacon told you? C'mon? What sense does that make? Life does not life to die you know cause than there would be no point in it.

What is the point of life then?


To procreate, consume, evolve and that are just 3 points.

In your world every baby should not be born, cause in the end it dies. Well then why exist at all? That question is for you to.

Modifié par MysticBinary82, 17 mars 2012 - 12:46 .


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AtlasMickey wrote...

Not sure if anyone posted this yet, but...

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So, um.. no... not a hallucination.

Unless! BUZZ ALDRIN IS A REAPER

>OMGIT MAKESSOMUCH SENSE NAAOOOOO

Articulete....

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MysticBinary82 wrote...

Vandicus wrote...

I was just looking at the destroy ending again
 to see if there was growling,  and I heard the weirdest thing in the background. I heard breathing immediately after 90% of the shots fired. A rapidly indrawn breath. Has this been mentioned before?



I don't hear what you hear and please people don't try to overinterprate the hole thing. Not every singel piece in this game would be evidence. There are fakts but there are also just design things just to build up tension.



Seriously you don't hear the weird noise after each gun shot? :mellow: It even occurs before the cutscene starts if you watch other videos when Shepard is too far away to trigger the cutscene. 

 

About 6:05 there he starts shooting and you hear breathing after every single shot except near the end of the cut scene when the bullets start giving off a hollow echo noise instead and shepard takes a blast to the face.

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Reptilian Rob wrote...

GunMoth wrote...

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GunMoth wrote...

Blegh okay I'll PM you the article person with the Tali icon. I have to wait for my friend to get back to me with the link. :U Not sure if she's online.


Thank you sir, I appreciate it. I just want to delve into it and prod around.


A couple days after the game was released and people started freaking out Casey Hudson did a butt ton of interviews. It was one of those, though I don't remember which one asked him the DLC questi-- OH!
Duh. 
Just google "Casey Hudson Mass Effect 3 single player DLC" or "Casey hudson interview ME3" etc etc. 
Or just Mass Effect 3 Single Player DLC.

"I didn’t want the game to be forgettable, and even right down to the sort of polarizing reaction that the ends have had with people–debating what the endings mean and what’s going to happen next, and what situation are the characters left in.[/i]

That to me is part of what’s exciting about this story. There has always been a little bit of mystery there and a little bit of interpretation, and it’s a story that people can talk about after the fact.

Hudson did go on to assure gamers that the team will be taking their feedback into account as they move forward with downloadable content, confirming that more single-player goodness is on the way.

It’s very important to us and we will always listen to feedback, interpret it and try and do the right thing by our fans. That’s why if you look at Mass Effect 2 we knew that people wanted to spend more time with a character like Liara, and so we created an ongoing storyline with her as part of the comics and then built it into the DLC stuff, and we’re always listening to fans.We have some really great multiplayer content and some really great single-player content coming over the air, and their feedback will become part of how we design that."

That was great, up until he said "Whatever we do with Mass Effect 3 will most likely be during the game, not after."


"Most likely" doesn't seem too sure. My boyfriend and I are actually discussing all of this right now.  I honestly think they were expecting the fan base to be more positive and curious about ambigous elements of the ending "Is shepard alive?! Or dead?!" rather than a huge negative backlash. Its like they want to say something, but aren't allowed to.

There's a lot of weird stuff being said from all different sections of the ME team. I honestly don't know at this point. I do understand that they have a hard job with player agency + all of the decisions from ME1 and 2. They did something amazing (ME3 was a GREAT game up until the last 10 minutes). I honestly don't know. You know? 

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Rifneno wrote...

T_l_M_B_0 wrote...

Lol anyone else think trolls are funny? Any post that begins with "I enjoyed the ending" is clearly just trying to stir up some trouble.


I don't think it's fair to assume anyone who liked the ending is a troll.  People have different tastes.  Some cultures find candied cockroach (hello vulgarity filter) a delicacy.  Personally, I'd rather starve to death.  It's difficult if not impossible to understand someone having a preference for something you hate, but that doesn't mean their preference isn't genuine.


I think the part where they became a troll was when they tried to say that Shepard has been asleep since the Beacon on Eden Prime. Maybe this person is serious but my gut tells me that they are not.

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Vandicus wrote...

MysticBinary82 wrote...

Vandicus wrote...

I was just looking at the destroy ending again
 to see if there was growling,  and I heard the weirdest thing in the background. I heard breathing immediately after 90% of the shots fired. A rapidly indrawn breath. Has this been mentioned before?



I don't hear what you hear and please people don't try to overinterprate the hole thing. Not every singel piece in this game would be evidence. There are fakts but there are also just design things just to build up tension.



Seriously you don't hear the weird noise after each gun shot? :mellow: It even occurs before the cutscene starts if you watch other videos when Shepard is too far away to trigger the cutscene. 

 

About 6:05 there he starts shooting and you hear breathing after every single shot except near the end of the cut scene when the bullets start giving off a hollow echo noise instead and shepard takes a blast to the face.



I put my hands over my ears looking like a moron to try to hear what you hear, and was rewarded. :lol:

Yeah, I at first thought it was the "swoosh" of the bullet. Maybe it's breathing. I don't know. I don't know anything about that video actually.

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Vandicus wrote...

MysticBinary82 wrote...

Vandicus wrote...

I was just looking at the destroy ending again
 to see if there was growling,  and I heard the weirdest thing in the background. I heard breathing immediately after 90% of the shots fired. A rapidly indrawn breath. Has this been mentioned before?



I don't hear what you hear and please people don't try to overinterprate the hole thing. Not every singel piece in this game would be evidence. There are fakts but there are also just design things just to build up tension.



Seriously you don't hear the weird noise after each gun shot? :mellow: It even occurs before the cutscene starts if you watch other videos when Shepard is too far away to trigger the cutscene. 

 

About 6:05 there he starts shooting and you hear breathing after every single shot except near the end of the cut scene when the bullets start giving off a hollow echo noise instead and shepard takes a blast to the face.



Lol no that is not breathing it is an echo effect. Do not read to much in such thinks. The place should only sound large. that is why it sounds that way.

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Jamie9 wrote...

Vandicus wrote...

I was just looking at the destroy ending again
 to see if there was growling,  and I heard the weirdest thing in the background. I heard breathing immediately after 90% of the shots fired. A rapidly indrawn breath. Has this been mentioned before?



I didn't choose destroy on my first go through. That Normandy sequence makes even less sense here, it's somehow even more out of place here than it was in synthesis.

As to the breathing, I don't quite know where you mean. After Shep has just finished shooting the tubes?


Every shot has a breath intake. Promise you. And i'm one of the more skeptical people on here about additional evidence.

Modifié par Golferguy758, 17 mars 2012 - 12:52 .


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MysticBinary82 wrote...

bearcatfan14181 wrote...

MysticBinary82 wrote...

bearcatfan14181 wrote...

Just because I have a different opinion doesn't mean I'm a troll. I didn't realize the Bioware community was so intolerant.


No but because you said that it is genuis, that whatever we did was pointless so why play at all, why unite the galaxy, why not just lay down and die? Why fight because a beacon told you? C'mon? What sense does that make? Life does not life to die you know cause than there would be no point in it.

What is the point of life then?


To procreate, consume, evolve and that are just 3 points. You still die in the end anyways.

In your world every baby should not be born, cause in the end it dies. Well then why exist at all? That question is for you to.



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Jamie9 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

T_l_M_B_0 wrote...

Lol anyone else think trolls are funny? Any post that begins with "I enjoyed the ending" is clearly just trying to stir up some trouble.


I don't think it's fair to assume anyone who liked the ending is a troll.  People have different tastes.  Some cultures find candied cockroach (hello vulgarity filter) a delicacy.  Personally, I'd rather starve to death.  It's difficult if not impossible to understand someone having a preference for something you hate, but that doesn't mean their preference isn't genuine.


I think the part where they became a troll was when they tried to say that Shepard has been asleep since the Beacon on Eden Prime. Maybe this person is serious but my gut tells me that they are not.

I am completely serious and your gut must be empty.

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As I said that is no breathing. If my breathing would sound like that the first thing I would do is go to a doctor.

It is just a echo/hollow effect to transport the feeling of a large space.

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Sounds more like a rattle to me.

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Golferguy758 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Vandicus wrote...

I was just looking at the destroy ending again
 to see if there was growling,  and I heard the weirdest thing in the background. I heard breathing immediately after 90% of the shots fired. A rapidly indrawn breath. Has this been mentioned before?



I didn't choose destroy on my first go through. That Normandy sequence makes even less sense here, it's somehow even more out of place here than it was in synthesis.

As to the breathing, I don't quite know where you mean. After Shep has just finished shooting the tubes?


Every shot has a breath intake. Promise you. And i'm one of the more skeptical people on here about additional evidence.


Good, I was wondering if I was going crazy from all this when someone started questioning something that sounded pretty clear on my audio.

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At least my shepard didnt die a queer....Live straight or die trying.....

Modifié par bearcatfan14181, 17 mars 2012 - 12:57 .


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bearcatfan14181 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

T_l_M_B_0 wrote...

Lol anyone else think trolls are funny? Any post that begins with "I enjoyed the ending" is clearly just trying to stir up some trouble.


I don't think it's fair to assume anyone who liked the ending is a troll.  People have different tastes.  Some cultures find candied cockroach (hello vulgarity filter) a delicacy.  Personally, I'd rather starve to death.  It's difficult if not impossible to understand someone having a preference for something you hate, but that doesn't mean their preference isn't genuine.


I think the part where they became a troll was when they tried to say that Shepard has been asleep since the Beacon on Eden Prime. Maybe this person is serious but my gut tells me that they are not.

I am completely serious and your gut must be empty.


I am completely serious and your gut must be troll (now I see it)

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Vandicus wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Vandicus wrote...

I was just looking at the destroy ending again
 to see if there was growling,  and I heard the weirdest thing in the background. I heard breathing immediately after 90% of the shots fired. A rapidly indrawn breath. Has this been mentioned before?



I didn't choose destroy on my first go through. That Normandy sequence makes even less sense here, it's somehow even more out of place here than it was in synthesis.

As to the breathing, I don't quite know where you mean. After Shep has just finished shooting the tubes?


Every shot has a breath intake. Promise you. And i'm one of the more skeptical people on here about additional evidence.


Good, I was wondering if I was going crazy from all this when someone started questioning something that sounded pretty clear on my audio.


Just want to add that I do hear this now.

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Golferguy758 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Vandicus wrote...

I was just looking at the destroy ending again
 to see if there was growling,  and I heard the weirdest thing in the background. I heard breathing immediately after 90% of the shots fired. A rapidly indrawn breath. Has this been mentioned before?



I didn't choose destroy on my first go through. That Normandy sequence makes even less sense here, it's somehow even more out of place here than it was in synthesis.

As to the breathing, I don't quite know where you mean. After Shep has just finished shooting the tubes?


Every shot has a breath intake. Promise you. And i'm one of the more skeptical people on here about additional evidence.


Definitely breathing. In addition to that, we realized last night that the background sound of the portion where the catalyst is waiting on you to make a decision is very remeniscent of a heartbeat.

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Still holding on to this theory. It is still the one who makes the most sense.

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bearcatfan14181 wrote...

At least my shepard didnt die a queer....Live straight or die trying.....


See, now he's trolling for sure.

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bearcatfan14181 wrote...

At least my shepard didnt die a queer....Live straight or die trying.....


So predictable...

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MysticBinary82 wrote...

bearcatfan14181 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

T_l_M_B_0 wrote...

Lol anyone else think trolls are funny? Any post that begins with "I enjoyed the ending" is clearly just trying to stir up some trouble.


I don't think it's fair to assume anyone who liked the ending is a troll.  People have different tastes.  Some cultures find candied cockroach (hello vulgarity filter) a delicacy.  Personally, I'd rather starve to death.  It's difficult if not impossible to understand someone having a preference for something you hate, but that doesn't mean their preference isn't genuine.

Its all in your head, you must be indoctrinated.
I think the part where they became a troll was when they tried to say that Shepard has been asleep since the Beacon on Eden Prime. Maybe this person is serious but my gut tells me that they are not.

I am completely serious and your gut must be empty.


I am completely serious and your gut must be troll (now I see it)



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AtlasMickey wrote...

Not sure if anyone posted this yet, but...

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So, um.. no... not a hallucination.

Unless! BUZZ ALDRIN IS A REAPER

>OMGIT MAKESSOMUCH SENSE NAAOOOOO


Posted Image

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MysticBinary82 wrote...

As I said that is no breathing. If my breathing would sound like that the first thing I would do is go to a doctor.

It is just a echo/hollow effect to transport the feeling of a large space.


Uhhh you should go to the doctor. it's the same short kind of gasp that you get from Shepard in the rubble. Tone is different due to it beign a dream and all, but the type of gasp is the same