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[lookingglassmind]

@shimoyake:

Well said. I fully agree with you.

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

How do we know that all us of coming up with these theories aren't indoctrinated by Bioware/EA , wanting to believe something that could never be true.

Modifié par LOST SPARTANJLC, 11 mars 2012 - 09:06 .

[littleork]

Fat Headed Wolf wrote...

gooberfish311 wrote...

So maybe that was the goal...to make me choose an option that I percieved would be the only way to save everyone, even though it was infact the same path that brought ruin to TIM. 

That's pretty much how TIM and Saren were indoctrinated. They thought what they were doing was the right thing to do, that it would actually save us.

Interesting.... Then what--in your opinion--would the synthesis/Shep-jumping-into-a-beam-of-light-and-somehow-changing-the-effin-UNIVERSE ending be?

I think that would be being harvested by the reaper, you know, being the old form of life that get integrated to the reaper

[cannedcream]

Fat Headed Wolf wrote...

gooberfish311 wrote...

So maybe that was the goal...to make me choose an option that I percieved would be the only way to save everyone, even though it was infact the same path that brought ruin to TIM. 

That's pretty much how TIM and Saren were indoctrinated. They thought what they were doing was the right thing to do, that it would actually save us.

Interesting.... Then what--in your opinion--would the synthesis/Shep-jumping-into-a-beam-of-light-and-somehow-changing-the-effin-UNIVERSE ending be?

He went into the light, so I'd say plain-ol Death.

[NoUserNameHere]

Has anyone noticed 1M1 elsewhere in the game?
Could just be a recycled asset.

[lookingglassmind]

@LOST:

We don't. And its likely that what you've said is the truth. But, its still incredible to contemplate, no?

[Miss Vader]

Well at least we have hope- hope that this theory could be true... better than just having the plain old three endings

[omgBAMF]

The synthesis choice could be just what it seems... simple death. Walking into a massive energy beam just to kill off Shepard and get him out of the way.

[Auresta]

NoUserNameHere wrote...

Has anyone noticed 1M1 elsewhere in the game?
Could just be a recycled asset.

Would like to know this as well.

[BlackDragonBane]

Fat Headed Wolf wrote...

gooberfish311 wrote...

So maybe that was the goal...to make me choose an option that I percieved would be the only way to save everyone, even though it was infact the same path that brought ruin to TIM. 

That's pretty much how TIM and Saren were indoctrinated. They thought what they were doing was the right thing to do, that it would actually save us.

Interesting.... Then what--in your opinion--would the synthesis/Shep-jumping-into-a-beam-of-light-and-somehow-changing-the-effin-UNIVERSE ending be?

I would think that Harbinger 'assumes control' of Shepard right then and there because it's convinced that Shepard has created a peace between organic and synthetics. Shepard becomes Harbinger's avatar much like Saren was Sovereign's and uses the indoctrined commander to sabatoge the remains of the fleets and ground forces, allowing for the Reapers to win.

[lavosslayer]

Fat Headed Wolf wrote...

gooberfish311 wrote...

So maybe that was the goal...to make me choose an option that I percieved would be the only way to save everyone, even though it was infact the same path that brought ruin to TIM. 

That's pretty much how TIM and Saren were indoctrinated. They thought what they were doing was the right thing to do, that it would actually save us.

Interesting.... Then what--in your opinion--would the synthesis/Shep-jumping-into-a-beam-of-light-and-somehow-changing-the-effin-UNIVERSE ending be?

More like becoming the next Collectors...

To paraphrase Mordin Solus - Organic body with internal organs replaced with tech, everything else replaced with tech.. sounds like synthesis to me...

[littleork]

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

How do we know that all us of coming up with these theories aren't indoctrinated by Bioware/EA , wanting to believe something that could never be true.

Some people are actually able to play the game again because they keep this theory as the actual ending and figure out the rest as they see fit. If it doesnt happen to be real, then i will just play and know that at the end credit that i kept my resolve,...or didnt...

[Goddy10]

How about this for an ending:

Shephard wakes up after Harbingers attack at the Conduit with the same squadmates you chose originally, enters the Conduit, is transported onto the Presidium, gradually makes his way with the squadmates to the exact same place where you battled Saren (The Control Room for the Citadel), you confront the Ilusive Man, deal with him, activate the Wards to open up, the Crucible docks, Shephard activates the Crucible (The Catalyst is merely someone who is recognised as a Prothean), the wave that it emits merely disables the Reapers shields, The Normandy picks up Shephard and the squad, then.....

BEGIN Flight Sim section. You battle the Reapers while controlling the Normandy for a short period, then the Citadel explodes, forcing the Normandy to jump to FTL to get away, the explosion follows them, disables the Normandy and it crash lands on that Jungle world. Queue interaction with squadmates post crash landing.

Sound fair?

[mentosman8]

In terms of going into the light, an organic/synthetic combination is both what the Reapers themselves are, and pretty in line with Saren in ME1. He didn't believe that they could be controlled, simply that they could co-exist as the highest form of evolution being hybridized(as he was at that point) unless I'm remembering wrong. If that's the case, Control=TIM, synthesize=Saren, Destroy=not-indoctrinated/too strong of a will

[cannedcream]

littleork wrote...

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

How do we know that all us of coming up with these theories aren't indoctrinated by Bioware/EA , wanting to believe something that could never be true.

Some people are actually able to play the game again because they keep this theory as the actual ending and figure out the rest as they see fit. If it doesnt happen to be real, then i will just play and know that at the end credit that i kept my resolve,...or didnt...

Tell you what, it sure makes me feel better.

[Lugaidster]

From where do you get that the M is 13?? Anyone?

[Miss Vader]

m= 13 letter in alphabet

[gooberfish311]

Lugaidster wrote...

From where do you get that the M is 13?? Anyone?

Probably because its the 13th letter of the alphabet.

[Yuzna75]

Well every cycle so far seemed to have had a cerberus or similar organization working unknowingly with the reapers. Don't remember if it was the VI or the DLC prothean that confirmed that. I also don't really find it far fetched at all that the TIM would blow his brains out if you could actually reach him, since what he is doing goes against what he has really always preached, humanity before all. It was also stated that TIM had left the base for earth so the reason that he is there actually isn't off at all. I really hope the 1m1 actually means something and just isn't the result of lazy programmers, cause if its actually a hint its pretty darn awesome.

[VerdantSF]

The biggest detail for me that I completely missed until someone else mentioned it was the armor. When Shepard wakes up after Harbinger's beam attack, he's no longer in his armor. I was so tense about nearing the end, that I didn't even notice.

[Terraforming2154]

Lugaidster wrote...

From where do you get that the M is 13?? Anyone?

13th letter of the alphabet.

Oops, ninja'd twice.

Modifié par Terraforming2154, 11 mars 2012 - 09:13 .

[Golferguy758]

Lugaidster wrote...

From where do you get that the M is 13?? Anyone?

13th letter of the english alphabet

[Ellestor]

Can anyone say if Shepard still notices a wound on the left of his abdomen if TIM doesn't make him shoot Anderson? I find it really curious that Anderson doesn't seem wounded by the shot, and Shepard's wound is only shown as Anderson dies.

Modifié par Ellestor, 11 mars 2012 - 09:18 .

[JayneD]

shimoyake wrote...

Even if it wasn't their original intention, they'd be fools not to exploit this chance. We're basically spoon-feeding them the details, imagined or otherwise, that would make us believe they had this planned all along.

So long as you got everyone involved to 'play along,' how would we know they aren't just covering their rears and making it fit? That's how brilliant the hallucination idea is. And the more I read this thread... the more I'd be okay with that. I'd rather be lied to if it meant I could have a more 'proper' ending.

This, totally. For sake of closure I'd even pay them to lie to me...

[littleork]

cannedcream wrote...

littleork wrote...

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

How do we know that all us of coming up with these theories aren't indoctrinated by Bioware/EA , wanting to believe something that could never be true.

Some people are actually able to play the game again because they keep this theory as the actual ending and figure out the rest as they see fit. If it doesnt happen to be real, then i will just play and know that at the end credit that i kept my resolve,...or didnt...

Tell you what, it sure makes me feel better.

And i think its the main point of it since we cant really change it, bioware needs to, if they dont , then we still have our heads to decide what we do with those endings, which in my case, i dismiss them and go in a long fight to death with the reaper after waking up in the rubbles.