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Was the ending a hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory


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SirLugash

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@Arphee: It doesn't quite work out.
Mass Effect is and was ever Shepards story, you never played a different character and I don't think you will now.
Apart from that, after Shepard wakes up and walks towards the conduit (as you say this happens and is not hallucinated), you hear that hammer was completely wiped out, so there is no one left.

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This makes me believe, as Shep is clearly walking to the Conduit (and also Anderson), that the hallucination starts right here, even before entering the Conduit.
That would fit with him laying in rubble when he breathes in the best ending.
Also, the situation with TIM.
It's pretty clear that Shep is kind of indoctrinated by TIM (he acquired the technology with Mirandas father at sanctuary), he also says "Controlling me is completely different to controlling a reaper".
But, did you notice those reaper sounds in background ?
I believe that was the reaper's first attempt to control Shepard, and because they fail you hear those sounds.
They basically tried to assume control through TIM, even the child said that TIM couldn't control the reapers because they already controled him.

The second and most promisind attempt then was with the child.

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redBadger14

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Marauder Shields....would never give you up. Never let you down.

Marauder Shields would never run around and desert you.

R.I.P.

lol B)

Modifié par redBadger14, 17 mars 2012 - 02:12 .


#16228
Raze4573

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Geth Platforms holding the line in Poland. Forum-Users. Good luck.
And yes yes, give us a statement!

#16229
AdmiralsJack

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Raze4573 wrote...

Geth Platforms holding the line in Poland. Forum-Users. Good luck.
And yes yes, give us a statement!


Asari are holding the line in Germany...we will not give up!

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Krogan forces in Cleveland OH holding ground. But there is all this green alchohol...

#16231
Maegorod

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SirLugash wrote...

@Arphee: It doesn't quite work out.
Mass Effect is and was ever Shepards story, you never played a different character and I don't think you will now.
Apart from that, after Shepard wakes up and walks towards the conduit (as you say this happens and is not hallucinated), you hear that hammer was completely wiped out, so there is no one left.


Actually, during ME2 you play a scene as Joker...

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Another dutchman holding the line!

Modifié par Maegorod, 17 mars 2012 - 02:17 .


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SnowyKai

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Turian Forces in the UK holding the line. Don't know how much longer we can hold out.

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Kanon777

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Raze4573 wrote...

Geth Platforms holding the line in Poland. Forum-Users. Good luck.
And yes yes, give us a statement!


Are you saying there is a statement coming soon?

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AdmiralsJack

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SnowyKai wrote...

Turian Forces in the UK holding the line. Don't know how much longer we can hold out.


Don't give up yet, we are all together in this!

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Salarian Forces holding the line in Sweden. Win this war. We must.

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Raze4573

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I wonder how long before BioWare forum servers start screaming "no moar posts! we full! no moar!" just because we overloaded them with HOLD THE LINE! messages. To the people from BW watching the forums right now, just cut the radio silence and admit you screwed up and say "We will fix it.". How hard can it be?

#16237
SirLugash

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Maegorod wrote...

SirLugash wrote...

@Arphee: It doesn't quite work out.
Mass Effect is and was ever Shepards story, you never played a different character and I don't think you will now.
Apart from that, after Shepard wakes up and walks towards the conduit (as you say this happens and is not hallucinated), you hear that hammer was completely wiped out, so there is no one left.


Actually, during ME2 you play a scene as Joker...

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Another dutchman holding the line!


Right, almost forgot about that, but I wouldn't compare that, with Joker, you had just about 2 minutes to follow lights on the ground, no battle involved.

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Joker's hat drawer, holding the line.

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VonVerrikan

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Maegorod wrote...

SirLugash wrote...

@Arphee: It doesn't quite work out.
Mass Effect is and was ever Shepards story, you never played a different character and I don't think you will now.
Apart from that, after Shepard wakes up and walks towards the conduit (as you say this happens and is not hallucinated), you hear that hammer was completely wiped out, so there is no one left.


Actually, during ME2 you play a scene as Joker...

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Another dutchman holding the line!


Exactly. You play as Joker already! And though It doesn't exactly count, you can play as that one robot in Arrival for a short period :) 

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AdmiralsJack wrote...

SnowyKai wrote...

Turian Forces in the UK holding the line. Don't know how much longer we can hold out.


Don't give up yet, we are all together in this!


come on, europe, i know you can do better than that!

Modifié par lex0r11, 17 mars 2012 - 02:22 .


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SnowyKai wrote...

Turian Forces in the UK holding the line. Don't know how much longer we can hold out.


65th Alliance batallion in the Netherlands sending in reinforcements to support the Turians in the UK.

#16242
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AdmiralsJack wrote...

Raze4573 wrote...

Geth Platforms holding the line in Poland. Forum-Users. Good luck.
And yes yes, give us a statement!


Asari are holding the line in Germany...we will not give up!


Human forces are also holding the Line in Germany

BioWare Reapers have landed near Bremen(my little home^^) They're strong but we can still hold the line!!!

Modifié par FrostByte-GER, 17 mars 2012 - 02:23 .


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Holding the line in Ukraine too! Though I had to go see a doctor about this odd looking green rash on my skin. Glows in the dark. Weird.

#16244
AdmiralsJack

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FrostByte-GER wrote...

AdmiralsJack wrote...

Raze4573 wrote...

Geth Platforms holding the line in Poland. Forum-Users. Good luck.
And yes yes, give us a statement!


Asari are holding the line in Germany...we will not give up!


Human forces are also holding the Line in Germany

BioWare Reapers are coming. We are prepared for battle :D


We are holding the line together against Bioware Reapers with our Theory :)

#16245
Raze4573

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But then...our theory turns out to be a hallucination of a turian gamer playing "Real Life on Earth 3" and he creates an Indoctrination theory within an Indoctrination the--*Flashlight head explodes* bzzt

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Christopher Llyod: "I WAS INDOCTRINATED TODAY!"

Modifié par Red Starblazer, 17 mars 2012 - 02:26 .


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SnowyKai

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Jere85 wrote...

SnowyKai wrote...

Turian Forces in the UK holding the line. Don't know how much longer we can hold out.


65th Alliance batallion in the Netherlands sending in reinforcements to support the Turians in the UK.

Thanks for the support, you've bought us some more time to do hit and run attacks in London.

#16248
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Intelligence has scattered reports of indoctrinated Cerberus forces screening the Reapers. Beware of sleeper agents.

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Holding the line in The Netherlands.

#16250
S Atomeha

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Hey guys, watching the ending again shepard was initially wounded on the right side of his stomach(he holds it as he gets up after the conduit/as he gets up after the harbinger attack. Then when he shoots Anderson on the left side, as he sits down he sees he's wounded there instead of on the right side. maybe it's a bug, or something but worth looking into. Especially if you consider Anderson/TIM to be representative of shepard.