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[N7L4D]

Great vid to help

[jackncoke28]

FalconRising wrote...

jackncoke28 wrote...

kyg_20X6 wrote...

jackncoke28 wrote...

But if that was the ase, then the whole conversation with conversation with catalyst is pointless. why have any options? Doesnt indoctrination entail accepting reaper phylosophy? Wanting to destroy them seems to me like a refutation of their ideology

The illusion wouldn't work if you weren't given that choice. It'd be conspicious in its absence. Shepard might begin to question that.

Im arguing that if it's to the point where shepard cant even influene the dialogue in his/her own mind, then (s)he's already indoctrinated. that's why I believe destroy is shepard still being able to have influence in his/her mind.

I'm operating under the impression that eventually, one has to stop fighting Indoctrination and on some level, willingly choose to accept it.  My interpretation of ID Theory is that on "the Citadel", Shepard is at that point right now, once Shepard makes one of the set choices before him/her, indoctrination is complete; the only way out would be to do something unorthodox and outside the constraints of the hallucination, up to and not limited to shooting Starchild (for example). 

I don't subscribe to the interpretation of ID Theory that states if Shepard chooses Destruction, then indoctrination has failed.  Shepard is weakened and exhausted, and on the verge of submitting - unless Shepard chooses the path that s/he set out on in the first place, destroying the Reapers so that life as we know it will persist?  I can't accept that the Reapers would leave that possibility to chance.  That's why I view the entire hallucination as a single indoctrination attempt - and making any choice that it explicitly provides you leads to indoctrination.  Shepard has to brute force another way out to avoid it.

But that onorthodox choice is unavailable, only way out without mission failure is to make 1 of 3 choices. That being the case one has to assume that 1 of the 3 choices that are available is a remanent of shepards free unindoctrinated will, if not the whole conversation is pointless because shepards already indoctrinated since all options are reaper options.

[Vandicus]

Tailen wrote...

Vandicus wrote...

Tailen wrote...

Vandicus wrote...

byne wrote...

Wait wait wait, hold everything.

Can someone verify if the chain reaction starts in the Viper system or not?

Because, I have seen multiple people (myself included) say they believe that at the end, the galaxy is representative of the neural pathways in Shep's brain, with red being the brain rejecting indoctrination, and blue/green accepting it.

If the chain reaction does in fact start in the Viper nebula, we could assume that Shep's brain perceives that zone of space as being where indoctrination started (by being unconscious near Object Rho for two days), hence why the chain reaction of rejection/acceptance would start there.

I think I just blew my own mind.

Its generally just considered to be artistic license or a screw up. The map clearly shows the sequence doesn't start in the Sol system though.

'Generally considered artistic license or a screw up' sounds a lot like the counter-indoctrination speak we're hearing all the time.  I'm not a big fan of the general opinion about the end of this game.

I must say I have also just had my mind blown by this theory all over again.  In my opinion, another very large clue and another very large plot hole explained in a beautifully symbolic way.

I get what you're saying there, I'm actually on the fence about it myself. To me it seems like a minor enough detail that Bioware might've just missed it, unlike some of the other rather major stuff that people call as being due to artistic license or screw ups.

I've also heard the argument that the beam starts at the Alpha Relay because its supposedly the oldest known mass relay, and also happens to be in the Viper Nebula, which makes some sense to me as well.

http://masseffect.wi...iki/Alpha_Relay 

Supposedly the Alpha Relay is special.

The thing that really sealed the deal for me was the breathing after each shot thing in the destroy ending, it sounds like Shepard gasps for air.

 

Also upon comparison of maleshep and femshep it seems the breath is different, indicating that the sound is not in fact from something else and is actually shep breathing. Some other people also said they heard the difference some others didn't, but I heard it so it was good enough for me.

Well, you could say that the most 'special' part about the Alpha Relay is that it was destroyed... in 'The Arrival' DLC... where many theorize Shepard's indoctrination could have essentially started.

If the relay isn't there anymore, how could the Crucible/Citadel blast go through it -- unless, as we're saying, it's a huge clue and/or symbolic?

You're totally right about that. Should've thought about that when I heard others mention the Alpha Relay. I guess the only answer they can fall back on now is 

[FalconRising]

Tailen wrote...

sunnie7699 wrote...

byne wrote...

Wait wait wait, hold everything.

Can someone verify if the chain reaction starts in the Viper system or not?

Because, I have seen multiple people (myself included) say they believe that at the end, the galaxy is representative of the neural pathways in Shep's brain, with red being the brain rejecting indoctrination, and blue/green accepting it.

If the chain reaction does in fact start in the Viper nebula, we could assume that Shep's brain perceives that zone of space as being where indoctrination started (by being unconscious near Object Rho for two days), hence why the chain reaction of rejection/acceptance would start there.

I think I just blew my own mind.

Omg I think you're right!

3:47 shows where the Viper nebula is on the ME2 galaxy map:


2:14 shows where the mass relay explosions start at the end of ME3:

Wow!  Not only is that too close to deny... there's no way it starts from the Local Cluster/Sol System.

This is great stuff... 

This just hit me.  The galaxy map can be said to be symbolic of Shepard's indoctrination throughout the game - more Reaper icons on the map indicates how close Shepard is to indoctrination.  When the game starts, there are relatively few Reaper ships out on the map, but by the final battle every cluster and mass relay is covered with them. 

Or it doesn't mean anything, and I'm assigning meaning where it happens to circumstantially fit.

[wantedman dan]

Be damned. That beam doesn't originate from the Sol system at all.

[Emperor_Ike]

Tailen wrote...

Vandicus wrote...

Tailen wrote...

Vandicus wrote...

byne wrote...

Wait wait wait, hold everything.

Can someone verify if the chain reaction starts in the Viper system or not?

Because, I have seen multiple people (myself included) say they believe that at the end, the galaxy is representative of the neural pathways in Shep's brain, with red being the brain rejecting indoctrination, and blue/green accepting it.

If the chain reaction does in fact start in the Viper nebula, we could assume that Shep's brain perceives that zone of space as being where indoctrination started (by being unconscious near Object Rho for two days), hence why the chain reaction of rejection/acceptance would start there.

I think I just blew my own mind.

Its generally just considered to be artistic license or a screw up. The map clearly shows the sequence doesn't start in the Sol system though.

'Generally considered artistic license or a screw up' sounds a lot like the counter-indoctrination speak we're hearing all the time.  I'm not a big fan of the general opinion about the end of this game.

I must say I have also just had my mind blown by this theory all over again.  In my opinion, another very large clue and another very large plot hole explained in a beautifully symbolic way.

I get what you're saying there, I'm actually on the fence about it myself. To me it seems like a minor enough detail that Bioware might've just missed it, unlike some of the other rather major stuff that people call as being due to artistic license or screw ups.

I've also heard the argument that the beam starts at the Alpha Relay because its supposedly the oldest known mass relay, and also happens to be in the Viper Nebula, which makes some sense to me as well.

http://masseffect.wi...iki/Alpha_Relay 

Supposedly the Alpha Relay is special.

The thing that really sealed the deal for me was the breathing after each shot thing in the destroy ending, it sounds like Shepard gasps for air.

 

Also upon comparison of maleshep and femshep it seems the breath is different, indicating that the sound is not in fact from something else and is actually shep breathing. Some other people also said they heard the difference some others didn't, but I heard it so it was good enough for me.

Well, you could say that the most 'special' part about the Alpha Relay is that it was destroyed... in 'The Arrival' DLC... where many theorize Shepard's indoctrination could have essentially started.

If the relay isn't there anymore, how could the Crucible/Citadel blast go through it -- unless, as we're saying, it's a huge clue and/or symbolic?

Symbolic of Shep's neurons, and/or where Harby found an in to get some subtle head-stomping started.. I mean, 300,000 sapients in one explosion will weigh on anyone's mind, even if every one of them could be proven to be a slaver, which we know they weren't. So we know he must have at least been vulnerable to feeling the stress of the war even before the kid showed up to get blowed-up and give him nightmares.

That said, I think they just screwed up on the placement. The neuron symbology sounds slick, and I'd love it, but I just don't know. Can they really afford something that subtle?

[Dwailing]

Tailen wrote...

sunnie7699 wrote...

byne wrote...

Wait wait wait, hold everything.

Can someone verify if the chain reaction starts in the Viper system or not?

Because, I have seen multiple people (myself included) say they believe that at the end, the galaxy is representative of the neural pathways in Shep's brain, with red being the brain rejecting indoctrination, and blue/green accepting it.

If the chain reaction does in fact start in the Viper nebula, we could assume that Shep's brain perceives that zone of space as being where indoctrination started (by being unconscious near Object Rho for two days), hence why the chain reaction of rejection/acceptance would start there.

I think I just blew my own mind.

Omg I think you're right!

3:47 shows where the Viper nebula is on the ME2 galaxy map:


2:14 shows where the mass relay explosions start at the end of ME3:

Wow!  Not only is that too close to deny... there's no way it starts from the Local Cluster/Sol System.

This is great stuff... 

Yeah, these are some of the best days of my life, discussing something with people who share my love of it.  (Puts on Zaeed voice)  This thread takes me back.  I remember this one Mass Effect novel, Deception, I think, I'd rather forget honestly.  It united the forums in universal hatred of its myriad of inconsistencies and low quality writing.  We managed to make a difference then; after Bioware was silent for a couple days, they said they would release a new edition that would fix many of the issues.  My first, impossible mission to change part of the Mass Effect universe.  Now, thanks to this thread, it's nowhere near my last.

Keep holding the line people, Bioware can't keep this up forever.

[Vandicus]

Emperor_Ike wrote...


Symbolic of Shep's neurons, and/or where Harby found an in to get some subtle head-stomping started.. I mean, 300,000 sapients in one explosion will weigh on anyone's mind, even if every one of them could be proven to be a slaver, which we know they weren't. So we know he must have at least been vulnerable to feeling the stress of the war even before the kid showed up to get blowed-up and give him nightmares.

That said, I think they just screwed up on the placement. The neuron symbology sounds slick, and I'd love it, but I just don't know. Can they really afford something that subtle?

If indoctrination theory is correct Bioware has used a lot of punches in the face(the gaping plot holes the size of reapers are the punches if they're intended) as well as subtlety such as the dreams to show us something is wrong. So I think the answer is yes, they can afford for some of it to be subtle.

[Emperor_Ike]

Dwailing wrote...

Tailen wrote...

sunnie7699 wrote...

byne wrote...

Wait wait wait, hold everything.

Can someone verify if the chain reaction starts in the Viper system or not?

Because, I have seen multiple people (myself included) say they believe that at the end, the galaxy is representative of the neural pathways in Shep's brain, with red being the brain rejecting indoctrination, and blue/green accepting it.

If the chain reaction does in fact start in the Viper nebula, we could assume that Shep's brain perceives that zone of space as being where indoctrination started (by being unconscious near Object Rho for two days), hence why the chain reaction of rejection/acceptance would start there.

I think I just blew my own mind.

Omg I think you're right!

3:47 shows where the Viper nebula is on the ME2 galaxy map:


2:14 shows where the mass relay explosions start at the end of ME3:

Wow!  Not only is that too close to deny... there's no way it starts from the Local Cluster/Sol System.

This is great stuff... 

Yeah, these are some of the best days of my life, discussing something with people who share my love of it.  (Puts on Zaeed voice)  This thread takes me back.  I remember this one Mass Effect novel, Deception, I think, I'd rather forget honestly.  It united the forums in universal hatred of its myriad of inconsistencies and low quality writing.  We managed to make a difference then; after Bioware was silent for a couple days, they said they would release a new edition that would fix many of the issues.  My first, impossible mission to change part of the Mass Effect universe.  Now, thanks to this thread, it's nowhere near my last.

Keep holding the line people, Bioware can't keep this up forever.

Pure gold, when imagined in Zaeed's voice as you suggested XD

[SirLugash]

@Tailen : If In.T. is true, the explosion doesn't happen (Crucible is not firing), in which case it could be just a manifestation of where it all began (indoctrination), like it was said before.

@FalconRising: Haven't you realised how the child is trying to convince you of the 2 options Control and Synthesis ?
Only Destroy seems to be the bad thing because it knows that it will break the Indoctrination.
As long as there still is some part of Shep fighting, there is an alternative to take, in this case the Destroy option.
If Shep chooses Destroy, he will break free, if he take Control or Synthesis, he is gone (fully indoctrinated).
Indoctrination switches what seems to be wrong and right, it doesn't make everything wrong.

Modifié par SirLugash, 18 mars 2012 - 03:09 .

[lex0r11]

artistic freedom he said, goddamn plotholes i said.

Modifié par lex0r11, 18 mars 2012 - 03:03 .

[Dwailing]

Emperor_Ike wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Tailen wrote...

sunnie7699 wrote...

byne wrote...

Wait wait wait, hold everything.

Can someone verify if the chain reaction starts in the Viper system or not?

Because, I have seen multiple people (myself included) say they believe that at the end, the galaxy is representative of the neural pathways in Shep's brain, with red being the brain rejecting indoctrination, and blue/green accepting it.

If the chain reaction does in fact start in the Viper nebula, we could assume that Shep's brain perceives that zone of space as being where indoctrination started (by being unconscious near Object Rho for two days), hence why the chain reaction of rejection/acceptance would start there.

I think I just blew my own mind.

Omg I think you're right!

3:47 shows where the Viper nebula is on the ME2 galaxy map:


2:14 shows where the mass relay explosions start at the end of ME3:

Wow!  Not only is that too close to deny... there's no way it starts from the Local Cluster/Sol System.

This is great stuff... 

Yeah, these are some of the best days of my life, discussing something with people who share my love of it.  (Puts on Zaeed voice)  This thread takes me back.  I remember this one Mass Effect novel, Deception, I think, I'd rather forget honestly.  It united the forums in universal hatred of its myriad of inconsistencies and low quality writing.  We managed to make a difference then; after Bioware was silent for a couple days, they said they would release a new edition that would fix many of the issues.  My first, impossible mission to change part of the Mass Effect universe.  Now, thanks to this thread, it's nowhere near my last.

Keep holding the line people, Bioware can't keep this up forever.

Pure gold, when imagined in Zaeed's voice as you suggested XD

Edit: I'll just assume that that was sincere.  Thanks!

Modifié par Dwailing, 18 mars 2012 - 03:05 .

[Emperor_Ike]

Vandicus wrote...

Emperor_Ike wrote...


Symbolic of Shep's neurons, and/or where Harby found an in to get some subtle head-stomping started.. I mean, 300,000 sapients in one explosion will weigh on anyone's mind, even if every one of them could be proven to be a slaver, which we know they weren't. So we know he must have at least been vulnerable to feeling the stress of the war even before the kid showed up to get blowed-up and give him nightmares.

That said, I think they just screwed up on the placement. The neuron symbology sounds slick, and I'd love it, but I just don't know. Can they really afford something that subtle?

If indoctrination theory is correct Bioware has used a lot of punches in the face(the gaping plot holes the size of reapers are the punches if they're intended) as well as subtlety such as the dreams to show us something is wrong. So I think the answer is yes, they can afford for some of it to be subtle.

Some, lordy yes. The dreams! How could anyone think everything's just fine after seeing even one of those dream sequences? But something in the realm of "Galaxy = brain. Clusters = neurons. Relays exploding = breaking free of indoc. Bam."?
 I just don't see it happening. Again, I would love it and eat it up like whipped cream off Tali's.. well.. you get it.

[ConradsLaces]

I should have never stopped reading this thread. People in this one seem to have open minds when it comes to what happened at the end...
Every other thread that even entertains Indoc-Theory dies after 4 pages, or gets filled with hate messages...

Catching up on some 20 pages of missed posts... and it's all very interesting to read.

[Emperor_Ike]

Dwailing wrote...

Emperor_Ike wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Tailen wrote...

sunnie7699 wrote...

byne wrote...

Wait wait wait, hold everything.

Can someone verify if the chain reaction starts in the Viper system or not?

Because, I have seen multiple people (myself included) say they believe that at the end, the galaxy is representative of the neural pathways in Shep's brain, with red being the brain rejecting indoctrination, and blue/green accepting it.

If the chain reaction does in fact start in the Viper nebula, we could assume that Shep's brain perceives that zone of space as being where indoctrination started (by being unconscious near Object Rho for two days), hence why the chain reaction of rejection/acceptance would start there.

I think I just blew my own mind.

Omg I think you're right!

3:47 shows where the Viper nebula is on the ME2 galaxy map:


2:14 shows where the mass relay explosions start at the end of ME3:

Wow!  Not only is that too close to deny... there's no way it starts from the Local Cluster/Sol System.

This is great stuff... 

Yeah, these are some of the best days of my life, discussing something with people who share my love of it.  (Puts on Zaeed voice)  This thread takes me back.  I remember this one Mass Effect novel, Deception, I think, I'd rather forget honestly.  It united the forums in universal hatred of its myriad of inconsistencies and low quality writing.  We managed to make a difference then; after Bioware was silent for a couple days, they said they would release a new edition that would fix many of the issues.  My first, impossible mission to change part of the Mass Effect universe.  Now, thanks to this thread, it's nowhere near my last.

Keep holding the line people, Bioware can't keep this up forever.

Pure gold, when imagined in Zaeed's voice as you suggested XD

Edit: I'll just assume that that was sincere.  Thanks!

Ohh it was, I assure you. And then lex, above. Many laughs! <3

[Legion109]

I'm still wondering why the reapers don't just turn off the relays since they got the citadel, they are organic/synthetic hybrids that essentially live forever they got the time to slowly harvest across the galaxy or I'm sure since they built the citadel (which confuses my since the catalyst says it built the reapers and it is part of the citadel) that they have the ability to turn on only the relays they wanted to use...... Also never thought I'd say this but I miss "Assuming direct control"

[Dwailing]

Emperor_Ike wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Emperor_Ike wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Tailen wrote...

sunnie7699 wrote...

byne wrote...

Wait wait wait, hold everything.

Can someone verify if the chain reaction starts in the Viper system or not?

Because, I have seen multiple people (myself included) say they believe that at the end, the galaxy is representative of the neural pathways in Shep's brain, with red being the brain rejecting indoctrination, and blue/green accepting it.

If the chain reaction does in fact start in the Viper nebula, we could assume that Shep's brain perceives that zone of space as being where indoctrination started (by being unconscious near Object Rho for two days), hence why the chain reaction of rejection/acceptance would start there.

I think I just blew my own mind.

Omg I think you're right!

3:47 shows where the Viper nebula is on the ME2 galaxy map:


2:14 shows where the mass relay explosions start at the end of ME3:

Wow!  Not only is that too close to deny... there's no way it starts from the Local Cluster/Sol System.

This is great stuff... 

Yeah, these are some of the best days of my life, discussing something with people who share my love of it.  (Puts on Zaeed voice)  This thread takes me back.  I remember this one Mass Effect novel, Deception, I think, I'd rather forget honestly.  It united the forums in universal hatred of its myriad of inconsistencies and low quality writing.  We managed to make a difference then; after Bioware was silent for a couple days, they said they would release a new edition that would fix many of the issues.  My first, impossible mission to change part of the Mass Effect universe.  Now, thanks to this thread, it's nowhere near my last.

Keep holding the line people, Bioware can't keep this up forever.

Pure gold, when imagined in Zaeed's voice as you suggested XD

Edit: I'll just assume that that was sincere.  Thanks!

Ohh it was, I assure you. And then lex, above. Many laughs! <3

Ok, the XD threw me off slightly.  

[Rifneno]

Emperor_Ike wrote...

You know, I haven't read a post of yours I can find fault with. Your opinion on the Tali pic seals it. Broheart.

I was expecting frog or lizard or something, even with dem hips and, *ahem*, mammal-specific glands, but even so I found I didn't much care how her face turned out because of how fond I'd grown of the character. So all I can say is thank you Bioware for making such a beautiful person actually.. beautiful.

And I think she'd be fascinated by our extra couple of digits, you know? Genuinely curious and mystified. Imagining point-of-view is fun, heh.

Anywho. Back to line-holding.

Thanks.  Right back atcha.    Good point on the "mammal-specific glands."  I'd completely forgotten about that.

And major kudos on all involved in the Viper Nebula thing.  Great catch.  This is why it's still worth keeping an eye out for things in the game: they left us tons of clues and it's fun to find new ones.  The Milky Way does rotate (much like Luna orbits Earth and Earth orbits Sol, the whole Milky Way orbits a supermassive black hole at the center) but the rotation speed is...  well, it takes Earth 225 million years to do one full rotation around the SMBH.  So yeah, the systems may be off by a tiny smidge since ME2 but not even close to as much as we're seeing here.

Edit:  Oh, and for funsies...  anyone that didn't know that bit of astronomy, remember that black orb in the far distance during the Collector Base mission?  That's the SMBH.  The "shimmering" around it is radiation which is let off when a black hole absorbs light.  That's pretty much what they theorize a black hole looks like.  The idea of black holes as being invisible death traps is an old and inaccurate one.

Modifié par Rifneno, 18 mars 2012 - 03:17 .

[ConradsLaces]

FalconRising wrote...
This just hit me.  The galaxy map can be said to be symbolic of Shepard's indoctrination throughout the game - more Reaper icons on the map indicates how close Shepard is to indoctrination.  When the game starts, there are relatively few Reaper ships out on the map, but by the final battle every cluster and mass relay is covered with them. 

Or it doesn't mean anything, and I'm assigning meaning where it happens to circumstantially fit.

That's a pretty interesting idea. Especially since we were shown something very similar in the game - when the Quarians and Geth compared the brains of a Locally Networked and a Non-Networked Geth...
One brain was firing rapidly - working in concert with those around it - a unified galaxy (and it was blue!)
One brain was firing slowly - working only on it's own - a much less unified galaxy (and red too.)

the whole game conditions us to Blue and Red - Paragon and Renegade - Left and Right (Notice that the Red/Destroy choice at the end is on the right? And how we constantly hit the right mouse button to make a good/Paragon choice in a cut scene?)

edit - spelling

Modifié par ConradsLaces, 18 mars 2012 - 03:15 .

[Dwailing]

ConradsLaces wrote...

FalconRising wrote...
This just hit me.  The galaxy map can be said to be symbolic of Shepard's indoctrination throughout the game - more Reaper icons on the map indicates how close Shepard is to indoctrination.  When the game starts, there are relatively few Reaper ships out on the map, but by the final battle every cluster and mass relay is covered with them. 

Or it doesn't mean anything, and I'm assigning meaning where it happens to circumstantially fit.

That's a pretty interesting idea. Especially since we were shown something very similar in the game - when the Quarians and Geth compared the brains of a Locally Networked and a Non-Networked Geth...
One brain was firing rapidly - working in concert with those around it - a unified galaxy (and it was blue!)
One brain was firing slowly - working only on it's own - a much less unified galax (and red too.)

the whole game conditions us to Blue and Red - Paragon and Renegade - Left and Right (Notice that the Red/Destroy choice at the end is on the right? And how we constantly hit the right mouse button to make a good/Paragon choice in a cut scene?)

I should point out that on consoles that the right trigger is used for Renegade interrupts and that the prompts, I would assume, also show up on the right side.

Edit: I play the games on the PC, so I don't have personal experience, but I do know that the right trigger is used for Renegade interrupts on consoles so I can only assume that said interrupts show on the right side of the screen as well.

Modifié par Dwailing, 18 mars 2012 - 03:19 .

[ConradsLaces]

Dwailing wrote...
I should point out that on consoles that the right trigger is used for Renegade interrupts and that the prompts, I would assume, also show up on the right side.

On consoles the Renegade icon flashes on the right side of the screen? And you hit the right trigger?

Hmm... so it seems reversed on the consoles, or on the PC, depending on your native platform...

Noted. Well, we're still conditioned to Red/Blue... unless that's backwards too

[Emperor_Ike]

Rifneno wrote...

Thanks.  Right back atcha.    Good point on the "mammal-specific glands."  I'd completely forgotten about that.

And major kudos on all involved in the Viper Nebula thing.  Great catch.  This is why it's still worth keeping an eye out for things in the game: they left us tons of clues and it's fun to find new ones.  The Milky Way does rotate (much like Luna orbits Earth and Earth orbits Sol, the whole Milky Way orbits a supermassive black hole at the center) but the rotation speed is...  well, it takes Earth 225 million years to do one full rotation around the SMBH.  So yeah, the systems may be off by a tiny smidge since ME2 but not even close to as much as we're seeing here.

This exactly. Found that after finally making myself do the final mission. For some reason I felt like looking up the future of the galaxy, as if I needed more depression-ammo... Fun facts, anyway.
http://en.wikipedia....nd_the_Universe

Cue 'boo-hiss, never source wiki!'

[Rob Psyence]

There's another dlc I think will be coming out that I'm looking foward to regardless..and that is Taking back Omega with Aria

[ConradsLaces]

Rob Psyence wrote...

There's another dlc I think will be coming out that I'm looking foward to regardless..and that is Taking back Omega with Aria

It's going to be hard to be enthusiastic about it... because whatever happens ends up not mattering anyways... or gets left to die out in space...

[Dwailing]

ConradsLaces wrote...

Dwailing wrote...
I should point out that on consoles that the right trigger is used for Renegade interrupts and that the prompts, I would assume, also show up on the right side.

On consoles the Renegade icon flashes on the right side of the screen? And you hit the right trigger?

Hmm... so it seems reversed on the consoles, or on the PC, depending on your native platform...

Noted. Well, we're still conditioned to Red/Blue... unless that's backwards too

I am pretty sure that the Red/Blue conditioning is not backwards.  Unless I'm backwards, too.  Must run tests.  (Tests finished)  Ok, I'm not backwards, unless the tests are backwards...