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[lex0r11]

guys, some opinions needed here.

having played it again, a question about the moment right after you are hit by harbinger. it is clear that, either this is supposed to be real or not, shepard is in a state of being near death. now, this is distinctly illustrated through visuals and sounds. that blurry view, how sounds seem like they are 'cushioned' and everything just seems to be so slow. no doubt, these effects are as old as modern media but what i'd like to know is how commonly and in what situation they are really used for what purpose?

i mean a blurred view can be anything from bein drunk, dreaming or losing to much blood to just being seen as
'artsy' for some reason. 'cushioned' or muffled sounds is common in portrayals of explosion messing up your hearing. this whole 'echo' feel to the end. but how often are these used to reinforce either a dream or a near death experience? i mean is the whole game just littered with 'artsy' coincidence because of cut content? anyone remember any examples in other media?


it should all seem so clear when one considers all our postings.
but seeing all these effects and how it comes across, even though i watch alot of movies and played a fair share of cinematic games, it still felt not right. not artsy, but something else. probably just me.

and P.S.
how are those 'lights' right when you see the ramp leading up to the console and anderson not harbinger?

and how awesome would it be to have an epilogue the length of metal gear solid 4's? just imagine.


edit: formatting just trolled me

Modifié par lex0r11, 18 mars 2012 - 08:41 .

[Vandicus]

Knut0 wrote...

MissMaster_2 wrote...

AdmiralsJack wrote...

Raze4573 wrote...

I do wonder...what is BioWare exactly waiting for. We did it, we solved the mystery.
Why keep the masquerade up? The longer they wait the more annoyed we are and the more people just return ME3 to the store or even sell it to someone.
Not to mention the complete lack of official answer, did we scare them or something?

maybe they are waiting for more players to finish the game?

I think they are going to say something towmorrow, (its sunday.) or at PAX.

Since everything Bioware releases is on tuesdaays for some reason, I'll belive it'll be Either this Tuesday or the next that we'll hear something. 

My personal bet is on PAX just because that gives EVERYONE a good chance to pick up the game and have enough time to finish it(instead of just us uber fans who finished it in under a week) and its a major press event. The Asians might be great gamers and all that but they've only had it a few days.

[MordiMoro]

https://twitter.com/...035997151232000

This is the end?

[lex0r11]

MordiMoro wrote...

https://twitter.com/...035997151232000

This is the end?

i bet they are referring to that photoshopped pic with info from 4chan and are using the usual PR talk.

[MDT1]

byne wrote...

I dont know if this has been linked in this thread yet, but its a pretty good read, and a good summation of all thats off with the ending.

This either proves Bioware plans something or is completly incompetent.

[Vandicus]

MordiMoro wrote...

https://twitter.com/...035997151232000

This is the end?

Oh look, the 4chan rumor is discredited. That's pretty much been known for a while now. That doesn't really have any implications regarding end game dlc. As I recall, bioware's original response was "Would we really use a name as corny as 'The Truth'?" and everyone responded "Yes. Yes you would."

[Raze4573]

"@jakedepri We see what you did there. No, The Truth is nothing but a rumor."
But nothing stating that the indoc theory is fake not to mention it could be a troll attempt.
"The Truth DLC is a rumor, but we're releasing Closure DLC in two weeks *trollface* "

[SnowyKai]

http://bit.ly/wEbtF4

Read this guys, it's a absolutely perfect re-cap of everything to do with the ending, how it makes no sense and how Indoctrination is the only logical outcome from this.

Or, Bioware just can't write anymore, one of the two. C:

[GavinUK86]

I think they will wait until PAX. Having their own panel is a bit of a clue. I just hope they sort this whole mess out. I hate the endings as much as the next guy but this is all becoming way too frustrating now.

Also, the deal with Anderson getting to the control panel before you, I dont think anyone has even mentioned, if you dont run down the hill, take your time to gaze about, he isnt even with you. He's in charge of Hammer so he probably stayed up with the convoy. So him being on the citadel is a huge mind****.

Modifié par GavinUK86, 18 mars 2012 - 08:42 .

[DenmaDev]

Raze4573 wrote...

Even if BioWare says officially and once and for all "The ending is canon, deal with it." I will hold the line. We have created a better ending, and if I am forced to, I will just imagine it in my head and smile happily or even imagine a slightly sad ending which is still more satisfying than the "official" ones.
Why? Because if Mass Effect was always about our choices, I dont need BW forcing ONE ending.
So to all of you losing resolve and faith, stay strong, dont let the Reapers take over.
Our influence will change the endings. In this battle, we will hold the line!

That's the conclusion I've reached. If these endings are really canon, then, in my mind, my Shep woke up after the blast with newly strengthened resolve, having personally shot Reaper Indoctrination to death with a hypothetical pistol. Looking around, he noticed his two squadmates were still too dazed to function, and that Harbinger was still right there, very angry that the indoctrination failed. Dodging beams, Shepard leapt into the conduit beam and was teleported to the Council Chambers. There, as before, he opened the Citadel arms for the Alliance. The Crucible was attached, and Shepard fired it. The Reapers collapsed, life was saved, and Shepard was celebrated as a hero. He and Ashley get married, Garrus and Tali get together, Joker and EDI get together, and all of the old squadmates from previous games meet at the bar to toast the continuance of life. And that's when Aria shows up, saying, "Hey Shepard. Remember how Cerberus took control of Omega? I'm going to go kill The Illusive Man and take it back." And then the adventure continues...

Modifié par DenmaDev, 18 mars 2012 - 08:44 .

[AdmiralsJack]

Red Starblazer wrote...

AdmiralsJack wrote...

Raze4573 wrote...

I do wonder...what is BioWare exactly waiting for. We did it, we solved the mystery.
Why keep the masquerade up? The longer they wait the more annoyed we are and the more ponies just return ME3 to the store or even sell it to somepony.
Not to mention the complete lack of official answer, did we scare them or something?

maybe they are waiting for more players to finish the game?

Admiral Jack, the game has already been out 3 days in Asia and 12 for the rest of us. Frankly if they are waiting I think it been long enough. I'm hoping for tomorrow, but odds are it'll be Tuesday.

I dont say that it is logical I just said that I thought it could be a reason^^

[Hashbeth]

This thing is a pr nightmare. But either the PR was intentional and they won't say anything until a good time (April 1st, PAX, something like that), or they screwed up, and are stilling working for a solution. Either way we can't expect anything too too soon. We can hope, but I'd say give them to the middle of this week at the EARLIEST

[T16skyhopp]

Pretty much what DenmaDev said except Liara in place of Ashley and the bar we meet at is on Rannoch.

[Skillz1986]

Well..uh, i just got a little bored durinh my ng+ playthrough and thought it would be a very good idea to give those codex entries some attention. While definitely informative and sometimes even quite funny, one entry defintely got my attention. Indoctrination!!! There wasn't much i didn't already know, but when the speaker said that "As time passes, they have feelings of being watched and (hold on to your hats ladies n' gents) hallucinations of ghostly presences." I though "vent boy/catalyst/creepy god child". Sorry if this has been mentioned before...but..i had to post it. also excuse my english if neccessary.

[GunMoth]

SnowyKai wrote...

http://bit.ly/wEbtF4

Read this guys, it's a absolutely perfect re-cap of everything to do with the ending, how it makes no sense and how Indoctrination is the only logical outcome from this.

Or, Bioware just can't write anymore, one of the two. C:

Whoever wrote this nailed the introuctory. I approve.

[Pathero]

Why did the RBG Wave do what it did?

These guys:

[MegumiAzusa]

Knut0 wrote...

Has anybody thought that Joker flleing the wave in the Normandy accompanied by the two squadmates you took with you to the beam,is actually kind of a metaphor for death? That Normandy crashed off-screen and thereby killed joker, and ending up in "paradise" with the two squadmates going with you to the beam(as seen in cut footage, it was intended for them to die). It could also be Shepard hoping that everyone on his crew get to live in peace afterwards(which has been speculated a few times).

This is a bit of a stretch, but it is possible.

They intended them to die if you've got low EMS, compare it to the squadmates that die because you didn't do their loyalty mission in ME2.

[GunMoth]

Skillz1986 wrote...

Well..uh, i just got a little bored durinh my ng+ playthrough and thought it would be a very good idea to give those codex entries some attention. While definitely informative and sometimes even quite funny, one entry defintely got my attention. Indoctrination!!! There wasn't much i didn't already know, but when the speaker said that "As time passes, they have feelings of being watched and (hold on to your hats ladies n' gents) hallucinations of ghostly presences." I though "vent boy/catalyst/creepy god child". Sorry if this hasbeen mentioned before...but..i had to post it. also excuse my english if neccessary.

Its okay! And yep its been mentioned before and is good evidence to support the theory. I also suggest reading the indoctrination wiki articles since there is a lot of interesting stuff in there too. 

[N7xELITE]

Its all a dream there is no way he could live after falling through the earths atmosphere and living through the explosion from the citadel. Shepard was definitely dead the first time he went through the atmosphere in me2 so I don't think he would survive now if it was real and not a dream . Not unless they used project Lazarus again LOL. ( so it was all a dream)

Modifié par N7xELITE, 18 mars 2012 - 08:59 .

[Silasqtx]

In my NG+ (just got on Mars) i've waited and waited to hear the "reaper growling sound" BEFORE the vent scene plays out, and it didn't occur. It was placed there on purpose.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

I just read the google document and am convinced again that there HAS to be something dream-like about the ending. It might not necessarily be indoctrination, but there is NO way this was all supposed to be reality. I mean.. there were 3 dreams in the game, so it's not too far-fetched.

[AxholeRose]

I played through the ending one more time and I noticed that you can let TIM kill Anderson, and then you shoot TIM. I'm not sure if it was because I am almost maxed renegade. It made little difference other than cutting out his dialogue before Shepard goes out.

I'm assuming that if you let TIM win, ie shooting both Anderson and you, you become indoctrinated, and you lose the game. If they both die, then it doesn't matter if Anderson dies because the reaper presence is destroyed for now (TIM), and you regain control, albeit in a reaper-induced dream.

[iusty]

Raze4573 wrote...

Even if BioWare says officially and once and for all "The ending is canon, deal with it." I will hold the line. We have created a better ending, and if I am forced to, I will just imagine it in my head and smile happily or even imagine a slightly sad ending which is still more satisfying than the "official" ones.
Why? Because if Mass Effect was always about our choices, I dont need BW forcing ONE ending.
So to all of you losing resolve and faith, stay strong, dont let the Reapers take over.
Our influence will change the endings. In this battle, we will hold the line!

Hear hear - totally agreed.

Too bad this game isn't moddable (or is it?)

[MegumiAzusa]

Anderson can be shot if you choose the Renegade answer. But then TIM says you are one of his greatest disappointments, which could mean Shep is so broken that he even lets Anderson die and is of no use for the Reapers anymore. The thing about placing indoctrinated personell is that they still believe they aren't indoctrinated. Else they would act completely different, by the way one of the things TIM wanted from the start of ME2.

[N7xELITE]

GOT TO WATCH THE REAL ENDING