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[k8ee]

M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

... OR the could do the FF route and release a Mass Effect 3 II, which picks up after you recovering from the debris. I'd totes buy it.  Thus, making ME3 part 1 of 2.  Yay?

lol yay.

[littleork]

M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

... OR the could do the FF route and release a Mass Effect 3 II, which picks up after you recovering from the debris. I'd totes buy it.  Thus, making ME3 part 1 of 2.  Yay?

Hell an ending to an epic game like this should be made in 2 parts , gogo bioware with a 40 hours long dlc

[Beast919]

k8ee wrote...

I really want to believe it. I want to believe they did this because the ending was leaked. Or because they ran out of space on the discs... or even EA and their desire to beat the resale value debate.

But now the more I think about it, the less convinced I am that BW has the balls to devastate everyone and then lift them back up again. Could they possibly be that sneaky? And what about all those people who don't play ME3 with an internet connection? What do they get?

I agree its a shocking proposition.  I really can't fathom what they would hope to gain by this.  On the one hand there's the overwhelming relief and super-hype that will stay with the game when its announced, causing a possible re-surge in sales, but I don't see how that can counteract the immediate bad press they're getting now. 

Even for people who do have internert btw, and the funds/willingness to get DLC, if you have one of the cheaper xboxes (the ones with the 4gb harddrive) its impossible to DL all the DLC for ME2 :/  Which, as it turns out, makes me *less* enraged by this pathetic ending (as it stands now) since I spent less money, but all the same, was not a fan of them referencing events I *wanted* to play but simply didn't have the room to download.

[littleork]

about the release to people without internet, they can just put it in a damn dvd box and sell it for 10 $, problem solved.

[Beast919]

k8ee wrote...

I just can't understand why they would destroy a universe they can still make money on.

And as for the endings... does this mean there is no way to lose? I mean, sure earth gets destroyed if you don't have enough forces, but is there a way for the reapers to succeed on a galactic scale?

Assuming we're right, and Shep picks him/herself off and goes back to being Shep, there's still plenty they could do to make  things bleak - which is as it should be.  They could do something semi-predictable and tie it directly to fleet size, say...if you don't have enough allies, the Crucible gets damaged and isn't as powerful as it should be, so its not as effective, making the war drag on and some civilizations get crushed before its over, or worst case scenario it gets blown up and all hope is lost, etc.

As good as Shep is, just cause they take a breath and stand back up doesn't mean the war is won

[littleork]

Beast919 wrote...

k8ee wrote...

I just can't understand why they would destroy a universe they can still make money on.

And as for the endings... does this mean there is no way to lose? I mean, sure earth gets destroyed if you don't have enough forces, but is there a way for the reapers to succeed on a galactic scale?

Assuming we're right, and Shep picks him/herself off and goes back to being Shep, there's still plenty they could do to make  things bleak - which is as it should be.  They could do something semi-predictable and tie it directly to fleet size, say...if you don't have enough allies, the Crucible gets damaged and isn't as powerful as it should be, so its not as effective, making the war drag on and some civilizations get crushed before its over, or worst case scenario it gets blown up and all hope is lost, etc.

As good as Shep is, just cause they take a breath and stand back up doesn't mean the war is won

If they were really making a dlc with the hallucination plan, i think all the decisions u take during and before the dlc should have an impact on you winning or not. War asset+ who is alive should decide of ur fate for the most part.

[k8ee]

You know what it is? It's the lack of reward. Everyone was playing their a-sses off to get that perfect ending against all odds... and there was nothing.

And I honestly can't function unless I convince myself Shep was imagining that last part. Magic guns and falling to earth I tell you, it's all in her head.

[littleork]

k8ee wrote...

You know what it is? It's the lack of reward. Everyone was playing their a-sses off to get that perfect ending against all odds... and there was nothing.

And I honestly can't function unless I convince myself Shep was imagining that last part. Magic guns and falling to earth I tell you, it's all in her head.

Damn right its in her head!

[mupp3tz]

I would have been happy if they had just added the shocked/scared/relieved faces of different species and their leaders as the Crucible goes off and destroys the Reapers. At least, then, I'd know the sacrifice wasn't in vain. And if Shepard survives, have his little ear radio go off and have Joker, a squad mate, or Harkin ask if Shepard can hear them. SOMETHING more hopeful.

Modifié par M U P P 3 T Z, 10 mars 2012 - 06:45 .

[k8ee]

M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

I would have been happy if they had just added the shocked/scared/relieved faces of different species and their leaders as the Crucible goes off and destroys the Reapers. At least, then, I'd know the sacrifice wasn't in vain. And if Shepard survives, have his little ear radio go off and have Joker, a squad mate, or Harkin ask if Shepard can hear them. SOMETHING more hopeful.

It all did feel in vain, didn't it? All and huge waste...

Ah god, it's all a dream. It has to be.

[Beast919]

So....no takers on my crackpot theory that its Vega in the rubble with the N7 dog tags? My god that would be funny. So funny.

[Odd Bet]

k8ee wrote...

You know what it is? It's the lack of reward. Everyone was playing their a-sses off to get that perfect ending against all odds... and there was nothing.

And I honestly can't function unless I convince myself Shep was imagining that last part. Magic guns and falling to earth I tell you, it's all in her head.

This. So much.

I specifically went through ME1 and ME2 again, games I have beaten many times each, just to get my perfect completionist playthrough, as I'm sure many other people did as well. Then, in ME3, I did EVERYTHING, wanting to make sure I had every advantage so I could get that hard-won victory that was promised.

And I got nothing.

[byne]

Beast919 wrote...

So....no takers on my crackpot theory that its Vega in the rubble with the N7 dog tags? My god that would be funny. So funny.

Vega hadnt accepted the N7 offer yet though.

[Odd Bet]

Beast919 wrote...

So....no takers on my crackpot theory that its Vega in the rubble with the N7 dog tags? My god that would be funny. So funny.

James is busy starting an all male species with Joker and Kaidan in the Land of the Lost in my game.

[humes spork]

Beast919 wrote...

...goes back to being Shep...

That's the other thing that bothers me. After the events of Thessia there's never really a moment where Shepard really gets back on the horse. There's no real moment of catharsis between Thessia and the ending, you'd think killing Kai Leng would be the point Shepard shakes off failing at Thessia, but it's really not. The whole thing really is set up so meeting the Catalyst is Shepard's "rock bottom". Which, in the previous games (Virmire in ME1, the Collector attack in ME2) is the point Shepard gets pissed and steps his/her game up proportionally to the loss.

I guess if the point you're trying to get across is the fact Shepard is so far over the edge s/he is just broken, it makes sense, but thematically that's just not Mass Effect or Shepard. Hell that's not even a space opera, which is what Mass Effect has been and still is.

Modifié par humes spork, 10 mars 2012 - 06:52 .

[mupp3tz]

Well, I sure as hell hope that the crackpot theory is wrong... 'cause then we'd have a pretty good chance that Vega is the either the grandpa at the end or the new ME hero. o_o

[CajunRexShepard]

Dear Gaming Gods- I hope this was a hallucination- or at the least a tie-in to some sort of 'rescue and closure' DLC pack that lets there at least be a bittersweet ending. Maybe I'm an old romantic, but I made these relationships, took 40+ hours per game, altered and modded my ship(s) and weapons, because I actually wanted to live through it and let my Shep retire in peace, not 'become one with the universe' or something equally tragic and cliche'. I swore I was watching Stargate when that option was given to me, and the creepy kid didn't help. Wish I'd had Peter Venkman's number at that point in the game lol. Don't get me wrong, this was without a doubt one of the wildest rides I've ever been taken on in a game, deeply. It affected me. I laughed, I sighed, I wanted to rage out in fury, but after surviving Sovereign and the Suicide mission on the Collector base, I figure he kinda *deserves* to live at least long enough to wave to the camera at game's end. A cosmic 'good game', so to speak. When I first saw the ending, I felt as if I had been presented with the option to find and have sex with the most perfect woman EVER... only to get slapped when I was done and watch her walk off with her husband, who turns out to be a lifelong enemy... But then I watched through the credits- and hoped against hope that the 'one more story' means that magical DLC we're all clamoring for already is already in development. The 'legend' of shepard demands it... Also- I am totally okay with any other game involving the Mass Effect universe. Naval combat, RTS, RPG, Narrative, even.... MMO (ugh)... But It won't be the same without the relays, the basis of all advanced tech, now will it? I suppose I shall hold out hope and see how it turns out.

Thanks for a great Ride, Bioware, Truly. The ending was a kick in the daddybags, but the ride I would not trade in for anything.

[Ghrelt]

Does the chest look different from the male to female Shepard versions of the game? That should tell you pretty clearly if it could be Vega or not.

[jake21221]

Honestly I just finished it after a 4 hour marathon to the end. (Cerberus base to end) I'm really not that mad because the game leading up to the last...half of the ending, is simply mind blowing! Maybe its because I'm sleep deprived and can't think straight but the first thing that came into my mind was that it was a hallucination as well. Still I'd happily pay for a "We screwed up" DLC just so I can you know...have a proper ending, and have a drink with Chakwas damn it!

Also it's not like something like this hasn't been done before. Remember the Fallout 3 DLC? End of the game makes it seem like you die, download Broken Steele you wake up two weeks later. Maybe something like that could work?

Sorry if these points have been brought up before I just needed to get this out there.

[Beast919]

byne wrote...

Beast919 wrote...

So....no takers on my crackpot theory that its Vega in the rubble with the N7 dog tags? My god that would be funny. So funny.

Vega hadnt accepted the N7 offer yet though.

Are you sure?  Cause in mine he had it tattoo'd on his back already - said nothing was official due to the red tape getting bogged down in the war (in his own lovely way of speaking), but you got the idea that he was committed, fully.  I wouldn't put it past him to have traded/gambled his way into some dogtags.  

I know its absurd.  I just think the collective look of horror on the faces of all watching the preview vid for the DLC as the camera panned to be behind "Shep's" back and you noticed the shoulders were just....a little....too...broad....That would be almost more priceless than the look on Shep's face when EDI makes her joke about cycling the oxygen.

[k8ee]

Odd Bet wrote...

k8ee wrote...

You know what it is? It's the lack of reward. Everyone was playing their a-sses off to get that perfect ending against all odds... and there was nothing.

And I honestly can't function unless I convince myself Shep was imagining that last part. Magic guns and falling to earth I tell you, it's all in her head.

This. So much.

I specifically went through ME1 and ME2 again, games I have beaten many times each, just to get my perfect completionist playthrough, as I'm sure many other people did as well. Then, in ME3, I did EVERYTHING, wanting to make sure I had every advantage so I could get that hard-won victory that was promised.

And I got nothing.

Exactly. I just finished getting my ME1 Shep to level 60. I couldn't wait to get her into ME2 and then unleash her fury in ME3. Now? I don't have the heart to do it. I would rather her live in my mind with the constant future threat of the reapers than watch any of those tragic endings happen to her.

I buy video games to escape the bland tragic nature of reality, I spend hours playing them, waiting for the reward I believe it coming, whether it's a scene with my LI, or an epic battle, or saving the galaxy and having my Shep's dreams come true.... and after all that work, I am left feeling like something beautiful has died.

Sounds dramatic, I know... but I never realized how invested I was until it was ripped away from me.

That is why it all has to be a dream. That and the magic guns. And and all the aforementioned points, lol.

[mupp3tz]

That's the real kicker. The fact that so many of us have invested so many hours into the game, even to the extent of beating it multiple times just so that we would have EVERY POSSIBLE scenario that could shift or change the ending. We've grown to learn about the different cultures in the galaxy. The different species, the politics, the cultures, etc.... and it's just all taken away. It doesn't matter if you cured the genophage, who you chose to save, kill, or sacrifice, or how many alliances you forged / species you decimated or destroyed. It's all just pointless, because it boils down to: "Hey, pick one! A, B, or C?"

[Ghrelt]

The chest is most definitely flatter if your Shep is male. Not Vega.

[Ice Cold J]

The ending was KINDA poetic, but I didn't really like it. I think there shoulld've been SOME kind of explainiation of what had happened.

Then again, we ARE Shepard, so how would we know what happened to the crew?

[Beast919]

Ellythe wrote...

The chest is most definitely flatter if your Shep is male. Not Vega.

lol why do you insist on crushing my hopes for the only thing (to my current knowledge) that could make this situation so much worse.  My god the drama.  Buckets of it.