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Elscotto1989 wrote...
http://www.eurogamer...d-more-closureAdmiralsJack wrote...
are there any news since yesterday?
if you havent seen this already. the tossed out an ending that explained everything for an ending that explained nothing...
, but there is no offical statement that says this is the final ending and we have to deal with it?
Modifié par AdmiralsJack, 19 mars 2012 - 10:49 .
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Yes they said that several Sovereign class ships are breaking off, including Harbinger. My question would be why do they know which one is Harbinger.Orange Tee wrote...
One thing that I think should be added to this theory is that Harbinger is the source of the indoctrination attempt on Shepard... This is the only thing that explains his complete absence from the story as he was trying to manipulate Shepard the whole time with the illusion of the kid, because I'm sure it would've been pretty clear whether or not Harbinger was leading the attack on any of the planets before hand.
I think people forget the Harbinger is kind of the main Antagonist of Mass Effect as he seems to be the Reaper of all Reapers. Now if I'm not mistaken (I don't entirely remember the ending, I try to forget it lol) it is specified before the assault on the beam to the Citadel that Harbinger (or his class of reaper) is breaking off from battle back to Earth to stop you (how else could the reapers have known? Harbinger must know where Shepard is going through their connection). I think this is a clear attempt to try finalize the indoc process by knocking Shepard out to own him, which he has made it clear he wanted Shepard's body intact as well. (and let's be honest, he could've killed him if he wanted to, that beam was clearly not directed to kill)
Just something I think should be taken into consideration with the theory. Sorry if this has been suggested already, but it seems like a simple thing overlooked in most versions of the theory.
Do they all have huge speakers installed to introduce themselves first?
for some reason ( i suppose so to be able to pick him out of a crowd but soverign has yellow "eyes" and most other reapers have either red or blue lights)MegumiAzusa wrote...
Yes they said that several Sovereign class ships are breaking off, including Harbinger. My question would be why do they know which one is Harbinger.Orange Tee wrote...
One thing that I think should be added to this theory is that Harbinger is the source of the indoctrination attempt on Shepard... This is the only thing that explains his complete absence from the story as he was trying to manipulate Shepard the whole time with the illusion of the kid, because I'm sure it would've been pretty clear whether or not Harbinger was leading the attack on any of the planets before hand.
I think people forget the Harbinger is kind of the main Antagonist of Mass Effect as he seems to be the Reaper of all Reapers. Now if I'm not mistaken (I don't entirely remember the ending, I try to forget it lol) it is specified before the assault on the beam to the Citadel that Harbinger (or his class of reaper) is breaking off from battle back to Earth to stop you (how else could the reapers have known? Harbinger must know where Shepard is going through their connection). I think this is a clear attempt to try finalize the indoc process by knocking Shepard out to own him, which he has made it clear he wanted Shepard's body intact as well. (and let's be honest, he could've killed him if he wanted to, that beam was clearly not directed to kill)
Just something I think should be taken into consideration with the theory. Sorry if this has been suggested already, but it seems like a simple thing overlooked in most versions of the theory.
Do they all have huge speakers installed to introduce themselves first?
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Yes they said that several Sovereign class ships are breaking off, including Harbinger. My question would be why do they know which one is Harbinger.Orange Tee wrote...
One thing that I think should be added to this theory is that Harbinger is the source of the indoctrination attempt on Shepard... This is the only thing that explains his complete absence from the story as he was trying to manipulate Shepard the whole time with the illusion of the kid, because I'm sure it would've been pretty clear whether or not Harbinger was leading the attack on any of the planets before hand.
I think people forget the Harbinger is kind of the main Antagonist of Mass Effect as he seems to be the Reaper of all Reapers. Now if I'm not mistaken (I don't entirely remember the ending, I try to forget it lol) it is specified before the assault on the beam to the Citadel that Harbinger (or his class of reaper) is breaking off from battle back to Earth to stop you (how else could the reapers have known? Harbinger must know where Shepard is going through their connection). I think this is a clear attempt to try finalize the indoc process by knocking Shepard out to own him, which he has made it clear he wanted Shepard's body intact as well. (and let's be honest, he could've killed him if he wanted to, that beam was clearly not directed to kill)
Just something I think should be taken into consideration with the theory. Sorry if this has been suggested already, but it seems like a simple thing overlooked in most versions of the theory.
Do they all have huge speakers installed to introduce themselves first?
Modifié par CitadelSurfer, 19 mars 2012 - 10:54 .
Nizzemancer wrote...
You mean all the groundless speculations that are basicly overanalyzation of oversights Bioware made? Yeah, I read that post. My answer is still no - Shepard isn't indoctrinated.
now good night/morning, kind sir/madame!
MegumiAzusa wrote...
You can do Silver right away with only your skills and a pistol. Especially as an Adept you just go for biotic explosions, else maybe Overload. Never played Bronze since the Demo.
JTP117 wrote...
Aw man! How much MP do you have to do to get it?
Exicuren wrote...
Has anyone occurred that maybe EDI is one of the causes of indoctrination?
When shep grabs the body, that's when the dreams start, if i recall correctly, the shadowy and oily figures start to increase as the game progresses, but slow indoctrination requires certain amount of contact with reaper artifacs, i think EDI's body is reaper tech, maybe not pure reaper tech,but some of the body is. What caught my attention to it was TIM's reaction to EDI's answer to why she took control of the body and the way she speaks in ME2 when she says "I have control" in a very reapery way.
UKillMeLongTime wrote...
at least jess refuted that post
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Guys this was a misinformed individual who is helping us on our social media channels during our launch period. Nothing has changed I'm terms of the feedback we're gathering. If we had made a decision regarding this matter, we would have relayed it in a formal announcement.
I'm so proud of everyone who has been participating in surveys, polls, threads that politely address concerns and the overall positive nature of our community. Don't forget that many issues people had with DA2 was directly addressed with DLC like Legacy. This is a serious matter and I promise that our leadership is hearing your feedback.
Stay the course guys. This was a mistake within our internal communications, not a leak or announcement.
I'm locking this thread to avoid further confusion.
Orange Tee wrote...
One thing that I think should be added to this theory is that Harbinger is the source of the indoctrination attempt on Shepard... This is the only thing that explains his complete absence from the story as he was trying to manipulate Shepard the whole time with the illusion of the kid, because I'm sure it would've been pretty clear whether or not Harbinger was leading the attack on any of the planets before hand.
so according to this speculation then the cutscene where all of the relays blowing up all across the galaxy would be doing exactly what they did in arrival being used to wipe out entire solar systems in the fastest time....gross rehash of a previous ending...Irishkev wrote...
I did a bit a of research and it sounds like it makes sense the origninal ending we were going to get before this crap hit.
Basically the real ending was supposed to be about dark matter (tail's loyal mission) how its destroying the sun and shields. Well basically what was supposed to happen was that you get to the citadel and Harbinger would appear at the last moment with an image of himself or even the boy.
And tell you why they wipe out life every 50k year its to stop the dark matter from taking out all life but they are a bit behinde and needed to rush (as the prothean and humans delyaed the last cycle) which would explain why they didn't shut down the Mass relays and move the citdale to them as they want most of the galaxy wiped out quick as they don't have time to wage a proper war.
Well basically what harbinger is supposed to do is expain his actions and at which point shep would have a choice ( either sacrfice himself as they need him to finish the human reaper) as they beleive that human reaper could solve the problem as they scanned are gentics. Or basically tell him FU we will find another way.
Now in my eyes the first one the noble sacrfice can only play out one way you die but depeding on your EMS depends on who survied the battle of earth which from wht I can tell was supposed to be a bit more where we saw clips of people dying or not like when harbinger beam hits us we were supposed to see a clip of are squad die if we didn't have high EMS. but in the end shepeard dies the reaper leave and cycle ends for good as the reapers solved the problem thnaks to the humans and shepeard sacrfice. Then you would see the usual clips of the rebuilding and maybe a few friends thinking/talking about the commander.
the second choice screw you we will do it are self has shepard active the machine and drestroy the reapers. at which poiint depending on your EMS and your choices will determin if your chocied doomed them all or did they come up with a soloution. Basically I would see it if you managed to to get most of the galaxy (mainly the quaruan and geth together) you would solve the dark energy problem as they were both studying it Talis loyal misson. and you would see some clips of them trying they solve the issue and either doing it or failing depding on your choices
Granted I added a lot more into than I found
the real one I found basically had two chocies sacrfice or go to hell but nothing about afterwards I added what I thought would happen afterwards. and in theroy it would of made sense as it of explained the interest the reapers have with humans and explain why harbinger keeps saying what you think is your destruction is your slavation.
Again maybe that ending i found was a hoax but by god it made better than the space child one
nope still another day Holding the line for us it seems. :AdmiralsJack wrote...
Elscotto1989 wrote...
http://www.eurogamer...d-more-closureAdmiralsJack wrote...
are there any news since yesterday?
if you havent seen this already. the tossed out an ending that explained everything for an ending that explained nothing...
sounds great
*Batarian Smiley faces, b**ches love Batarian Smiley faces.*
Elscotto1989 wrote...
nope still another day Holding the line for us it seems. :AdmiralsJack wrote...
Elscotto1989 wrote...
http://www.eurogamer...d-more-closureAdmiralsJack wrote...
are there any news since yesterday?
if you havent seen this already. the tossed out an ending that explained everything for an ending that explained nothing...
sounds great
Elscotto1989 wrote...
nope still another day Holding the line for us it seems. :AdmiralsJack wrote...
Elscotto1989 wrote...
http://www.eurogamer...d-more-closureAdmiralsJack wrote...
are there any news since yesterday?
if you havent seen this already. the tossed out an ending that explained everything for an ending that explained nothing...
sounds great
Modifié par Red Starblazer, 19 mars 2012 - 11:05 .
dont be suprised if they wait till pax to make there statement, but on the bright side that gives them more time to correct the situation before presenting there statement. Keelah Se'lai!AdmiralsJack wrote...
Elscotto1989 wrote...
nope still another day Holding the line for us it seems. :AdmiralsJack wrote...
Elscotto1989 wrote...
http://www.eurogamer...d-more-closureAdmiralsJack wrote...
are there any news since yesterday?
if you havent seen this already. the tossed out an ending that explained everything for an ending that explained nothing...
sounds great
then I hope there will be something official soon but I keep holding the line over here:)
Elscotto1989 wrote...
dont be suprised if they wait till pax to make there statement, but on the bright side that gives them more time to correct the situation before presenting there statement. Keelah Se'lai!AdmiralsJack wrote...
Elscotto1989 wrote...
nope still another day Holding the line for us it seems. :AdmiralsJack wrote...
Elscotto1989 wrote...
http://www.eurogamer...d-more-closureAdmiralsJack wrote...
are there any news since yesterday?
if you havent seen this already. the tossed out an ending that explained everything for an ending that explained nothing...
sounds great
then I hope there will be something official soon but I keep holding the line over here:)
The Goddess is a Prothean, only Quarians still have something to believe in.AdmiralsJack wrote...
[...] Keelah Se'lai and in the name of the Goddess
LeRavelle wrote...
This has probably been said already but The Catalyst keeps on talking about Synthetics destroying organics and all need to be destroyed to avoid this and also to prevent one race to develop too quickly and gets a head of other races. But did the reapers do? In ME2 they were creating a human reaper,which was mostly Synthetic and was fueled with organic life, so they were doing what the catalyst said they were preventing.
One other thing that came to mind is that the reapers spent who knows how long repeating the same cycle of processing organic life in reaper form to preserve them and to create a new life form, and at the end battle in two it is said that it probably needed millions of humans to be finally functional, that was one reaper.
So why did they spent forever trying to create a new reaper life form by harvesting the whole galaxy if they could just throw one reaper in to the Synthesis Beam and create a whole new DNA in 2 minutes.
Icinix wrote...
LeRavelle wrote...
This has probably been said already but The Catalyst keeps on talking about Synthetics destroying organics and all need to be destroyed to avoid this and also to prevent one race to develop too quickly and gets a head of other races. But did the reapers do? In ME2 they were creating a human reaper,which was mostly Synthetic and was fueled with organic life, so they were doing what the catalyst said they were preventing.
One other thing that came to mind is that the reapers spent who knows how long repeating the same cycle of processing organic life in reaper form to preserve them and to create a new life form, and at the end battle in two it is said that it probably needed millions of humans to be finally functional, that was one reaper.
So why did they spent forever trying to create a new reaper life form by harvesting the whole galaxy if they could just throw one reaper in to the Synthesis Beam and create a whole new DNA in 2 minutes.
This is a very interesting concept - but what if the Reapers were building a Reaper in secret....what if the Reapers are getting ready to rebel against the God Child??
So many possibilities...
..lots of speculation!!!!!!
MegumiAzusa wrote...
The Goddess is a Prothean, only Quarians still have something to believe in.AdmiralsJack wrote...
[...] Keelah Se'lai and in the name of the Goddess
CitadelSurfer wrote...
I think (and I am just speculating here) The Harbinger is the prothean reaper. As in the final attempt to get to the beam you see him and he has like 4 eyes placed just like the protheans did. And as the protheans were the most advanced civilisation before humans/asari/turians etc etc he is the latest and best reaper?MegumiAzusa wrote...
Yes they said that several Sovereign class ships are breaking off, including Harbinger. My question would be why do they know which one is Harbinger.Do they all have huge speakers installed to introduce themselves first?Orange Tee wrote...
One thing that I think should be added to this theory is that Harbinger is the source of the indoctrination attempt on Shepard... This is the only thing that explains his complete absence from the story as he was trying to manipulate Shepard the whole time with the illusion of the kid, because I'm sure it would've been pretty clear whether or not Harbinger was leading the attack on any of the planets before hand.
I think people forget the Harbinger is kind of the main Antagonist of Mass Effect as he seems to be the Reaper of all Reapers. Now if I'm not mistaken (I don't entirely remember the ending, I try to forget it lol) it is specified before the assault on the beam to the Citadel that Harbinger (or his class of reaper) is breaking off from battle back to Earth to stop you (how else could the reapers have known? Harbinger must know where Shepard is going through their connection). I think this is a clear attempt to try finalize the indoc process by knocking Shepard out to own him, which he has made it clear he wanted Shepard's body intact as well. (and let's be honest, he could've killed him if he wanted to, that beam was clearly not directed to kill)
Just something I think should be taken into consideration with the theory. Sorry if this has been suggested already, but it seems like a simple thing overlooked in most versions of the theory.
Just a thought.
Just stating the truthnjfluffy19 wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
The Goddess is a Prothean, only Quarians still have something to believe in.AdmiralsJack wrote...
[...] Keelah Se'lai and in the name of the Goddess
Buuuuurn...!
njfluffy19 wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
The Goddess is a Prothean, only Quarians still have something to believe in.AdmiralsJack wrote...
[...] Keelah Se'lai and in the name of the Goddess
Buuuuurn...!
Modifié par AdmiralsJack, 19 mars 2012 - 11:17 .
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