Was the ending a hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory
#17951
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:11
Hey everyone,
Loved the game, but I also felt like things were off with the thing as a whole. This may have been mentioned earlier, but I noticed the writing on the Crucible 1m1" was written backwards on the approach to the final decision. Its said that you see numbers and letters backward in your dreams, and I thought it was odd for sure. Maybe evidence that what is going on is in her subconcicious or ID.
From a texturing point of view I can't see why mirroring the object on the left to the right, or visa-versa would make that a reason. She's dreaming or ID for sure!
#17952
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:14
It's a picture of some of the teasing Twitter replies Jessica Merizan has made over the last few days...
#17953
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:20
CavemanLog wrote...
Hey everyone,
Loved the game, but I also felt like things were off with the thing as a whole. This may have been mentioned earlier, but I noticed the writing on the Crucible 1m1" was written backwards on the approach to the final decision. Its said that you see numbers and letters backward in your dreams, and I thought it was odd for sure. Maybe evidence that what is going on is in her subconcicious or ID.
From a texturing point of view I can't see why mirroring the object on the left to the right, or visa-versa would make that a reason. She's dreaming or ID for sure!
I can't remember dreaming about anything related to text or reading something, I woudn't know.
#17954
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:21
Sammuthegreat wrote...
Is this new?
It's a picture of some of the teasing Twitter replies Jessica Merizan has made over the last few days...
They're doing a lot of double-talk. It looks as though their PR division is so splintered, one hand doesn't know what the other is doing.
#17955
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:22
My humble attempt at unity http://social.biowar...8067/1#10248528
#17956
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:23
CavemanLog wrote...
Hey everyone,
Loved the game, but I also felt like things were off with the thing as a whole. This may have been mentioned earlier, but I noticed the writing on the Crucible 1m1" was written backwards on the approach to the final decision. Its said that you see numbers and letters backward in your dreams, and I thought it was odd for sure. Maybe evidence that what is going on is in her subconcicious or ID.
From a texturing point of view I can't see why mirroring the object on the left to the right, or visa-versa would make that a reason. She's dreaming or ID for sure!
i hope so
#17957
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:25
Sammuthegreat wrote...
Is this new?
It's a picture of some of the teasing Twitter replies Jessica Merizan has made over the last few days...
Woah dude cheers for this. I have not seen this yet. From what she is saying I think we are all missing something. Maybe there is a hidden ending somewhere on the disc? Maybe we have to do a certain thing at a certain time to see the rest of it? I think we have a huge treat coming our way though by the looks of things and going by Jessica's twitter account.
#17958
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:29
No, he or she probably got told to be more carefull in the future, a warning, I highly doubt that the person got fired or starter earning less money.Elscotto1989 wrote...
might not be looking for a job, but they probably dont make as much anymore.arkhine wrote...
Thanks guys! I wonder if that 'someone' is looking for a job right now...
Unless the person had been doing many mistakes, but if this was the first, then only a warning.
#17959
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:30
wantedman dan wrote...
Sammuthegreat wrote...
Is this new?
It's a picture of some of the teasing Twitter replies Jessica Merizan has made over the last few days...
They're doing a lot of double-talk. It looks as though their PR division is so splintered, one hand doesn't know what the other is doing.
I'd say she steps well beyond PR double-speak in a lot of those responses...
#17960
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:32
At first I was like "who the hell is eve?" and then I rememberd.Crasher027 wrote...
Shepard: "Sounds brutal, how did you make it out?"
Eve: "I found this. A simple crystal, take it as a reminder. In your darkest hour, there is always a way out."
Speculation.
If the crystal in someway is linked to shepard getting out of the reaper hold, it kinda reminds me of another series.
Oh and speaking of series
Green Ending = buffy season 5
blue ending = x men, the first movie.
red = probably a movie or tv series as well.
anyway, the crystal might just be for nothing, but if it is for something, then what? More space magic?
#17961
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:42
And the humans?MegumiAzusa wrote...
The Goddess is a Prothean, only Quarians still have something to believe in.AdmiralsJack wrote...
[...] Keelah Se'lai and in the name of the Goddess
#17962
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:42
Space magic? Just what we need...monrapias wrote...
At first I was like "who the hell is eve?" and then I rememberd.Crasher027 wrote...
Shepard: "Sounds brutal, how did you make it out?"
Eve: "I found this. A simple crystal, take it as a reminder. In your darkest hour, there is always a way out."
Speculation.
If the crystal in someway is linked to shepard getting out of the reaper hold, it kinda reminds me of another series.
Oh and speaking of series
Green Ending = buffy season 5
blue ending = x men, the first movie.
red = probably a movie or tv series as well.
anyway, the crystal might just be for nothing, but if it is for something, then what? More space magic?
#17963
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:44
but to be honest its not the last 10-15 minutes in my opinion thats bad, its more like the last 30. i was really hoping during the return to earth there would be cutscenes showing your friends (like jack) fighting the reapers at different areas. cutscenes of the space battle overhead.
but we get none of that.
#17964
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:45
Rodrigo Galliard wrote...
One thing that keeps bothering me. Why people state that the renegade stuff mens bad stuff? Renegade means "do whatever you need to do, even when others don't have the guts to do so, trying to achieve something good". Shepard is not evil, he wants to save the galaxy, even the renegade Shepard is good, he just put the duty above all things, mostly. The "Anderson Choice" is "Renegade" because military people usually puts duty above all things, this is "Renegade" in the game, mostly. Paragon is a kind of "i want to save everybody", who usually follow his heart, mostly, what is dangerous, but rewarding, in other hand, Renegade people just do what they have to do, and have no concerns about "some" casualties, the goal must be achieved at any cost.
The eye stuff, i think this is wrong,because i was playing yesterday and noticed the EDI's eye have the same pattern, but they just don't glow. Or she was indoctrinated too? Based in what i know, machines don't need to be indoctrinated, they can just be controlled by "hacking" their systems or be "persuaded" in the case of a real AI, like Geth and EDI.
Just for the record, i finished the game once, now i'm replaying to correct some **** i done in the previously playthrough.
1. That's... a terrible misunderstanding of paragon/renegade. For the record, look at every evil dictator in history. 95% of them thought they were doing good. And yes, that includes TIM. The guy who's helping the Reapers because he's bored with torturing slave children to see if it helps their biotics.
2. You answered your own question. EDI is a machine. A machine can look like whatever the hell its creator wanted it to look like. EDI is in Dr. Eva's body, which was created by a group run by a megalomaniac with indoctrinated eyes. If she looked like a turian, would that mean spikes on one's head wasn't a sign of being a turian because someone built a machine to look like one?
And as we've discussed, TIM's eyes got like they were after contact with a Reaper artifact during the First Contact War. It's established canon that the design is from Reaper toys.
MegumiAzusa wrote...
I've collected over 6600 points in war assets (3300 EMS) and didn't even get the "collect most of the war assets" achievement. There is enough without playing the MP.
It certainly is odd then that there's no reliable reports of anyone actually accomplishing it. Even though the great majority of war assets are documented on the wikia.
#17965
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:49
monrapias wrote...
At first I was like "who the hell is eve?" and then I rememberd.Crasher027 wrote...
Shepard: "Sounds brutal, how did you make it out?"
Eve: "I found this. A simple crystal, take it as a reminder. In your darkest hour, there is always a way out."
Speculation.
If the crystal in someway is linked to shepard getting out of the reaper hold, it kinda reminds me of another series.
Oh and speaking of series
Green Ending = buffy season 5
blue ending = x men, the first movie.
red = probably a movie or tv series as well.
anyway, the crystal might just be for nothing, but if it is for something, then what? More space magic?
Not necesarily space magic, but a focus.
Remember the movie Inception, in it each of the characters had a small totem, an object only they knew how felt in regards to weight and such things. In a dream that object would have a different characteristic which would be noticeable if the person held the totem allowing them to realize it is a dream.
Similarly the crystal can be a focus for Shepard, a known object that rips him out of his Indoctrination haze and gives him focus. Nothing magic about that.
#17966
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:51
#17967
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:53
Sammuthegreat wrote...
wantedman dan wrote...
Sammuthegreat wrote...
Is this new?
It's a picture of some of the teasing Twitter replies Jessica Merizan has made over the last few days...
They're doing a lot of double-talk. It looks as though their PR division is so splintered, one hand doesn't know what the other is doing.
I'd say she steps well beyond PR double-speak in a lot of those responses...
@masseffect has had some interesting replies to people today as well.
#17968
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:54
monrapias wrote...
And the humans?MegumiAzusa wrote...
The Goddess is a Prothean, only Quarians still have something to believe in.AdmiralsJack wrote...
[...] Keelah Se'lai and in the name of the Goddess
in the name of blue and human babys :-D and against
#17969
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:54
Sammuthegreat wrote...
wantedman dan wrote...
Sammuthegreat wrote...
Is this new?
It's a picture of some of the teasing Twitter replies Jessica Merizan has made over the last few days...
They're doing a lot of double-talk. It looks as though their PR division is so splintered, one hand doesn't know what the other is doing.
I'd say she steps well beyond PR double-speak in a lot of those responses...
I was speaking about the Bioware PR efforts overall, thus far.
#17970
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:54
blueboxblues wrote...
Sammuthegreat wrote...
wantedman dan wrote...
Sammuthegreat wrote...
Is this new?
It's a picture of some of the teasing Twitter replies Jessica Merizan has made over the last few days...
They're doing a lot of double-talk. It looks as though their PR division is so splintered, one hand doesn't know what the other is doing.
I'd say she steps well beyond PR double-speak in a lot of those responses...
@masseffect has had some interesting replies to people today as well.
could you name a few?
#17971
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:55
BioWare is saying they'll take changing the endings into consideration... but that wasn't the ending.
#17972
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:59
blueboxblues wrote...
Sammuthegreat wrote...
wantedman dan wrote...
Sammuthegreat wrote...
Is this new?
It's a picture of some of the teasing Twitter replies Jessica Merizan has made over the last few days...
They're doing a lot of double-talk. It looks as though their PR division is so splintered, one hand doesn't know what the other is doing.
I'd say she steps well beyond PR double-speak in a lot of those responses...
@masseffect has had some interesting replies to people today as well.
A few more past responses halfway down this page (in italics).
Could you list a few of those "interesting" replies please?
#17973
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 05:00
Interesting. Perhaps the crystal helps him/her to lose the hold the reaper have.Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
monrapias wrote...
At first I was like "who the hell is eve?" and then I rememberd.Crasher027 wrote...
Shepard: "Sounds brutal, how did you make it out?"
Eve: "I found this. A simple crystal, take it as a reminder. In your darkest hour, there is always a way out."
Speculation.
If the crystal in someway is linked to shepard getting out of the reaper hold, it kinda reminds me of another series.
Oh and speaking of series
Green Ending = buffy season 5
blue ending = x men, the first movie.
red = probably a movie or tv series as well.
anyway, the crystal might just be for nothing, but if it is for something, then what? More space magic?
Not necesarily space magic, but a focus.
Remember the movie Inception, in it each of the characters had a small totem, an object only they knew how felt in regards to weight and such things. In a dream that object would have a different characteristic which would be noticeable if the person held the totem allowing them to realize it is a dream.
Similarly the crystal can be a focus for Shepard, a known object that rips him out of his Indoctrination haze and gives him focus. Nothing magic about that.
#17974
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 05:03
#17975
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 05:05
Eyjh wrote...
not sure if anyone seen this?
http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png
We have already dismissed that claim.
No, really, it turned out to be a fake.




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