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Eyjh wrote...

not sure if anyone seen this?
http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png


yea and its a fake. :P


So im at the stage of Marauder Shields at the beam...
He makes me so proud!!! he already killed me 10 times! (insanity)

So any news? been a bit busy

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tobito113 wrote...

Did anyone read what i just typed? :


The new twitter that was imediately deleted, they stated that there was no plan atm for a new ending. This is the only evidence we need to dismiss the theory as real, the ingame evidence might be compeling but the real world evidence is overwelming.

Ask Bioware to make the theory canon, but i dont believe they wanted it to be.


What they ment was that they are not going to change the pre-installed endings, instead they are going to use them as a step-ladder into new endings and DLC

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http://koobismo.devi...llery/#/d4t2v53 funny

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Eyjh wrote...

not sure if anyone seen this?
http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png


How can we be sure that's real? If it is, then that's pretty compelling evidence...

EDIT: Ninja'd, apparently it's fake. :(

Modifié par Sammuthegreat, 19 mars 2012 - 05:08 .


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Sammuthegreat wrote...

blueboxblues wrote...

Sammuthegreat wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Sammuthegreat wrote...

 Is this new?

It's a picture of some of the teasing Twitter replies Jessica Merizan has made over the last few days...


They're doing a lot of double-talk. It looks as though their PR division is so splintered, one hand doesn't know what the other is doing.


I'd say she steps well beyond PR double-speak in a lot of those responses...


@masseffect has had some interesting replies to people today as well.


A few more past responses halfway down this page (in italics).

Could you list a few of those "interesting" replies please?


It's been a few hours, but they've hinted at content that delves into the keepers, and someone linked them the Google Doc saying that if it was true it'd be awesome or something, and they said that the person would "just have to stick with us and find out." twitter.com/#!/masseffect

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JTP117 wrote...

tobito113 wrote...

Did anyone read what i just typed? :


The new twitter that was imediately deleted, they stated that there was no plan atm for a new ending. This is the only evidence we need to dismiss the theory as real, the ingame evidence might be compeling but the real world evidence is overwelming.

Ask Bioware to make the theory canon, but i dont believe they wanted it to be.


What they ment was that they are not going to change the pre-installed endings, instead they are going to use them as a step-ladder into new endings and DLC


Holy delusion, Batman!

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I can't believe this is still being debated. BW said last night they are not changing the endings. IT doesn't make sense and fits none of the actual evidence anyway (i.e. script, app, dev interviews, the friggin title screen at the end of the game, the epilogue, what BW said LAST NIGHT, etc.) but that's besides the point. BW admitted it already. These are the ends they intended.

Use your brains for a second. Outside of the above objective evidence (the IT depends on utterly subjective evidence) you honestly believe BW would have shipped their biggest game to date with an incomplete ending? Really? Think about that. The gaming press has already given their reviews which they are touting in their commercials. Millions have already played. You honestly think they are holding an ending in the wing that invalidates two of the final choices in the game? You think that wouldn't be a worse clusterF than this? Do you think the gaming press is going to go back and re-review the game? Do you think they wouldn't come out guns blazing over such a cheap deception?

Honestly, the whole idea is ridiculous.

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Capeo wrote...

I can't believe this is still being debated. BW said last night they are not changing the endings. IT doesn't make sense and fits none of the actual evidence anyway (i.e. script, app, dev interviews, the friggin title screen at the end of the game, the epilogue, what BW said LAST NIGHT, etc.) but that's besides the point. BW admitted it already. These are the ends they intended.

Use your brains for a second. Outside of the above objective evidence (the IT depends on utterly subjective evidence) you honestly believe BW would have shipped their biggest game to date with an incomplete ending? Really? Think about that. The gaming press has already given their reviews which they are touting in their commercials. Millions have already played. You honestly think they are holding an ending in the wing that invalidates two of the final choices in the game? You think that wouldn't be a worse clusterF than this? Do you think the gaming press is going to go back and re-review the game? Do you think they wouldn't come out guns blazing over such a cheap deception?

Honestly, the whole idea is ridiculous.

It has been done before, with prinze of persia.

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Capeo wrote...

I can't believe this is still being debated. BW said last night they are not changing the endings. IT doesn't make sense and fits none of the actual evidence anyway (i.e. script, app, dev interviews, the friggin title screen at the end of the game, the epilogue, what BW said LAST NIGHT, etc.) but that's besides the point. BW admitted it already. These are the ends they intended.

Use your brains for a second. Outside of the above objective evidence (the IT depends on utterly subjective evidence) you honestly believe BW would have shipped their biggest game to date with an incomplete ending? Really? Think about that. The gaming press has already given their reviews which they are touting in their commercials. Millions have already played. You honestly think they are holding an ending in the wing that invalidates two of the final choices in the game? You think that wouldn't be a worse clusterF than this? Do you think the gaming press is going to go back and re-review the game? Do you think they wouldn't come out guns blazing over such a cheap deception?

Honestly, the whole idea is ridiculous.


Only they retracted that statement from last night.  That being said, you raise some good points.  One day I think they will change it and the next I think they won't... :blush:

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Capeo wrote...

I can't believe this is still being debated. BW said last night they are not changing the endings. IT doesn't make sense and fits none of the actual evidence anyway (i.e. script, app, dev interviews, the friggin title screen at the end of the game, the epilogue, what BW said LAST NIGHT, etc.) but that's besides the point. BW admitted it already. These are the ends they intended.

Use your brains for a second. Outside of the above objective evidence (the IT depends on utterly subjective evidence) you honestly believe BW would have shipped their biggest game to date with an incomplete ending? Really? Think about that. The gaming press has already given their reviews which they are touting in their commercials. Millions have already played. You honestly think they are holding an ending in the wing that invalidates two of the final choices in the game? You think that wouldn't be a worse clusterF than this? Do you think the gaming press is going to go back and re-review the game? Do you think they wouldn't come out guns blazing over such a cheap deception?

Honestly, the whole idea is ridiculous.


Before you tell anyone to "use their brains," you may want to go have a look and see that BW deleted that comment and said it was made by an ill-informed employee.
Only the devs have "the script."  Stop making crap up.  The app was said not to be canon and wasn't even released by BW, the dev interviews have been purposefully vaguely worded so people can draw whatever they wish from them (like you obviously have), the title screen?  LOL.  Well, your whole idea is ridiculous.

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Capeo wrote...

I can't believe this is still being debated. BW said last night they are not changing the endings. IT doesn't make sense and fits none of the actual evidence anyway (i.e. script, app, dev interviews, the friggin title screen at the end of the game, the epilogue, what BW said LAST NIGHT, etc.) but that's besides the point. BW admitted it already. These are the ends they intended.

Use your brains for a second. Outside of the above objective evidence (the IT depends on utterly subjective evidence) you honestly believe BW would have shipped their biggest game to date with an incomplete ending? Really? Think about that. The gaming press has already given their reviews which they are touting in their commercials. Millions have already played. You honestly think they are holding an ending in the wing that invalidates two of the final choices in the game? You think that wouldn't be a worse clusterF than this? Do you think the gaming press is going to go back and re-review the game? Do you think they wouldn't come out guns blazing over such a cheap deception?

Honestly, the whole idea is ridiculous.


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Companions, and nobody thought, what the Forge "has simply allowed" itself to find? I can that have missed, but whence Liara has learned about it? How many its time tried to construct, the technology has come from the remote past, as well as the relay that is already strange. Why Reapers didn't torpedo the Forge at once, at approach to a citadel if it can pose for them threat... No why they haven't knocked down at once building in a germ? Probably, the Forge - a part of their plan on attention derivation?

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Aedera wrote...

Only they retracted that statement from last night.  That being said, you raise some good points.  One day I think they will change it and the next I think they won't... :blush:


No, he didn't raise a single "good point."  Every one of them has been addressed over and over in this thread.  At least up until he started spouting "the title screen, the cheese in my closet, Andy Rooney!" and anything else he could think of that doesn't have anything to do with the subject at hand.

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A little short something to make you all feel better:



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Seriosuly, the longer this goes on, the more I LOVE IT.

I've spent more time looking at teh forums and Indoctreading than I have on multiplayer!

CHECK OUT THIS TWEET:
https://twitter.com/...792009009381376

The teasing. IT BURNS US.

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monrapias wrote...

http://koobismo.devi...llery/#/d4t2v53 funny


Marauder Shields was Nihlus?! Holy **** it all makes sense now! I knew he would not end as simply a dead body on Eden Prime!

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Pathero wrote...

Seriosuly, the longer this goes on, the more I LOVE IT.

I've spent more time looking at teh forums and Indoctreading than I have on multiplayer!

CHECK OUT THIS TWEET:
https://twitter.com/...792009009381376

The teasing. IT BURNS US.


If they pull this off, I'll make damn sure even my grand-kids buy their games.
If not, no amount of PR will save them.

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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

monrapias wrote...

http://koobismo.devi...llery/#/d4t2v53 funny


Marauder Shields was Nihlus?! Holy **** it all makes sense now! I knew he would not end as simply a dead body on Eden Prime!


and he dead helping us...again...poor marauder shields/nihlus :(

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I love these guys:

https://twitter.com/...795156226359297

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Something I do not believe has been covered (though it may as well have since I've only been reading comments from Page 600 and up) is the damage to Shepard and his armor after the Harby blast-o-doom. Obviously many people customize their N7 armor to look different and get them the advantage on the enemy. But it's what happens to the armor that gets me thinking.
Okay, so Shepard is shot (indirectly mind you) with a laser we have seen cut through buildings, ships, tanks, and so on. Bear in mind that Shep is only what? 10 yards away when it hits? if that?
Now let's look at the damage to his body, his left arm has had the armor melted/blown clean off, where the arm itself really only has shrapnel damage. No real burnt tissue from what I can see, just bruising and bleeding, if the beam was hot enough to burn that armor off of him, you can be damn sure that arm would be in waaaaay worse shape.
Now let's look at custom-ability. When I play, my Shep never wears a helmet so I was very surprised when he woke up and only had minor scars when his entire breast-plate was scorched and melted. Unless you are a girl, your chest really isn't that far out in front of your face, and even then the distance would be so insignificant given the power of the blast.
After watching other play-throughs, I have noticed that the same thing happens to people who WERE wearing helmets. How is it that your helmet can be completely destroyed (no evidence of it being around you anywhere when you get up) but your face, for the most part, is in good shape? It just doesn't make sense.
Now I have never seen anyone do the hammer team charge with anything other than some form of N7 on, does anyone know how he looks if say you were wearing Terminus, Inferno, or even Collector armor? Does that change what he looks like when he is limping away or what he looks like in the rubble?

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JTP117 wrote...

Something I do not believe has been covered (though it may as well have since I've only been reading comments from Page 600 and up) is the damage to Shepard and his armor after the Harby blast-o-doom. Obviously many people customize their N7 armor to look different and get them the advantage on the enemy. But it's what happens to the armor that gets me thinking.
Okay, so Shepard is shot (indirectly mind you) with a laser we have seen cut through buildings, ships, tanks, and so on. Bear in mind that Shep is only what? 10 yards away when it hits? if that?
Now let's look at the damage to his body, his left arm has had the armor melted/blown clean off, where the arm itself really only has shrapnel damage. No real burnt tissue from what I can see, just bruising and bleeding, if the beam was hot enough to burn that armor off of him, you can be damn sure that arm would be in waaaaay worse shape.
Now let's look at custom-ability. When I play, my Shep never wears a helmet so I was very surprised when he woke up and only had minor scars when his entire breast-plate was scorched and melted. Unless you are a girl, your chest really isn't that far out in front of your face, and even then the distance would be so insignificant given the power of the blast.
After watching other play-throughs, I have noticed that the same thing happens to people who WERE wearing helmets. How is it that your helmet can be completely destroyed (no evidence of it being around you anywhere when you get up) but your face, for the most part, is in good shape? It just doesn't make sense.
Now I have never seen anyone do the hammer team charge with anything other than some form of N7 on, does anyone know how he looks if say you were wearing Terminus, Inferno, or even Collector armor? Does that change what he looks like when he is limping away or what he looks like in the rubble?


I'm not 100% certain if it hasn' been brought up, but this is the only time in the game that your armour choice isn't reflected in a ingame bit.  Might just be programming restraints, but might not.  Curiously though, if you look at the squad option after getting battered by teh lazor Shep is in pretty good nick.

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That scenes are partially pre-rendered (at least the shep-alive scene is) so it won't make a difference there.

But the missing armor parts/few injuries thing has also been discussed some pages ago.

Modifié par nyrocron, 19 mars 2012 - 05:44 .


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Ye the armor is the same as the guns. I wear a Black Widow and a handgun of wich i cant remember the name (the one that shoots explosives) And in some cutscenes im using an M8 :P

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

A little short something to make you all feel better:


Oh my god that is hilarious!

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monrapias wrote...

Capeo wrote...

I can't believe this is still being debated. BW said last night they are not changing the endings. IT doesn't make sense and fits none of the actual evidence anyway (i.e. script, app, dev interviews, the friggin title screen at the end of the game, the epilogue, what BW said LAST NIGHT, etc.) but that's besides the point. BW admitted it already. These are the ends they intended.

Use your brains for a second. Outside of the above objective evidence (the IT depends on utterly subjective evidence) you honestly believe BW would have shipped their biggest game to date with an incomplete ending? Really? Think about that. The gaming press has already given their reviews which they are touting in their commercials. Millions have already played. You honestly think they are holding an ending in the wing that invalidates two of the final choices in the game? You think that wouldn't be a worse clusterF than this? Do you think the gaming press is going to go back and re-review the game? Do you think they wouldn't come out guns blazing over such a cheap deception?

Honestly, the whole idea is ridiculous.

It has been done before, with prinze of persia.


Or Fallout 3 ...