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[RADIUMEYEZ]

Still holding the line here in Michigan running low on supplies of Pepsi and Quarian nudey magazines gonna need a fresh supply soon.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

2) I noticed these (let me know you cannot access them)

The first shows, what I think is the original BroShep in game model with the words "John call soon"
The second shows the scary god kid of all space magic looking directly at you in a very scary way (i actually am a little scared of that expression) directly at you saying "last seen on earth. "

..****.. this kinda proves that the kid IS real

[Miss Vader]

ba0987 wrote...

Hi all,

Just a few questions about this theory and some things that may have not been asked.

1) In the CE Music there are 2 extra songs. One is called Betrayal, the other is called Creation links to both are here

Betrayal
Creation

Anyone notice where they are played in game?

2) I noticed these (let me know you cannot access them)

The first shows, what I think is the original BroShep in game model with the words "John call soon"
The second shows the scary god kid of all space magic looking directly at you in a very scary way (i actually am a little scared of that expression) directly at you saying "last seen on earth. "

I am wondering if people had a non default name (not "John") if the words on the first poster changes? If so then it could be a message directly to you...

Holding the line!

The Creation music is played when you are creating your character at the very beginning of the game

[tb350mdx]

Just noticed a few things about the ending again:

1) The magical gun Shepard uses is the one held by Anderson right before the run to the conduit/beam.....coincidence? I think not.

2 Anderson calls FemShep child. A bit odd.

3) When Shep checks her wound, it is the SAME gunshot that Anderson has, when Shep shoots him.

4) When Shep talks to the catalyst, she is DEFINITELY in space. You can see that the arms of the crucible around the sides.

5) Before the paths pop up, synthesis is the only option for Shep. This is what the Reapers wanted all along.

Just a few points to add to the melting pot of ideas. What do you guys think?

[JTP117]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

2) I noticed these (let me know you cannot access them)

The first shows, what I think is the original BroShep in game model with the words "John call soon"
The second shows the scary god kid of all space magic looking directly at you in a very scary way (i actually am a little scared of that expression) directly at you saying "last seen on earth. "

..****.. this kinda proves that the kid IS real

how so?

[IronSabbath88]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

2) I noticed these (let me know you cannot access them)

The first shows, what I think is the original BroShep in game model with the words "John call soon"
The second shows the scary god kid of all space magic looking directly at you in a very scary way (i actually am a little scared of that expression) directly at you saying "last seen on earth. "

..****.. this kinda proves that the kid IS real

I think I already said this, but if the kid really was real and somebody wanted to find him. Why would they say "Last seen on Earth?" Why not "Last seen in Vancouver?" Last seen on Earth is ridiculously vague... yeah... someone is going to find him looking all over Earth..

[MegumiAzusa]

Sammuthegreat wrote...

Dap Brannigan wrote...

I'm curious -- I remember seeing somewhere on these boards that in the scene where the Illusive Man makes you shoot Anderson, his fist glowed red.

In my playthrough, his fist glowed blue, like a biotic power. Can anyone confirm that in their game it was red?

Definitely blue on mine.

Purple imo

[RADIUMEYEZ]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Sammuthegreat wrote...

Dap Brannigan wrote...

I'm curious -- I remember seeing somewhere on these boards that in the scene where the Illusive Man makes you shoot Anderson, his fist glowed red.

In my playthrough, his fist glowed blue, like a biotic power. Can anyone confirm that in their game it was red?

Definitely blue on mine.

Purple imo

Blue in mine

[JTP117]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

2) I noticed these (let me know you cannot access them)

The first shows, what I think is the original BroShep in game model with the words "John call soon"
The second shows the scary god kid of all space magic looking directly at you in a very scary way (i actually am a little scared of that expression) directly at you saying "last seen on earth. "

..****.. this kinda proves that the kid IS real

I think I already said this, but if the kid really was real and somebody wanted to find him. Why would they say "Last seen on Earth?" Why not "Last seen in Vancouver?" Last seen on Earth is ridiculously vague... yeah... someone is going to find him looking all over Earth..

That pic doesn't really look like the kid to me, it looks more like a chick. The kid's face was more round, this one is angled with girl-lips, at least that's how it looks to me.

[DubbleB93]

If they ever return to the mass effect universe they would have to do it with shepard. I don't know how they would do it but it would feel wrong without the one that kicked it all off, thoughts?

[ME2Pilot]

http://uk.gamespot.c...-ending-6366857

Just found this link here! HOLD THE LINE!

[ba0987]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

2) I noticed these (let me know you cannot access them)

The first shows, what I think is the original BroShep in game model with the words "John call soon"
The second shows the scary god kid of all space magic looking directly at you in a very scary way (i actually am a little scared of that expression) directly at you saying "last seen on earth. "

..****.. this kinda proves that the kid IS real

not unless its in your head already?

The fact the kid was scaling tall sleek buildings to get to where Shep was on earth, then running through a locked door whilst the lock marker stayed in a float... Then he hides in a duct with a warning marker on it, then magically vanishes without a noise, shortly afterward we hear a distinct growl from a reaper like in the books?

Then there was the fact that when he tried to escape not one of the soldiers helped him get up or or get on the transport? Why would soldiers who are there to evacuate not pick the kid up and make sure he got on the transport?

We are literally the only people who "see" him in the game.

Then you have the strange dreams, plus these 2 photos are the only thing that dont contain "Missing", why are they different? Could it be done on purpose?

Modifié par ba0987, 19 mars 2012 - 10:04 .

[SirLugash]

@Raze4573 : For me those sounds when TIM speaks are Reaper sound, just kind of slowed down a bit.
About Normandy: It's damages because they drop out off FTL unregularly.
Codex says that if something like this happens, the damage taken is catastrophic (well, I would see catastrophic as the "Normandy is no more"...).

[masturch33f]

Hi all,

dont know if it has been mentioned yet, but since everything depends on Shepard waking up in London, has anyone yet brought up an explanation why the rebars in the concrete look nearly identical to the cables on the citadel?

In Fact they are everywhere around the the place Shepard would be standing in the destruction ending.
Of course they dont look like cables in the vid, they dont bend and seem to be stiff. But the texture is very very similar.

Also, are you absolutely sure there are buildings in the background? Im not 100% sure anymore if its not just more rubble.

[JTP117]

ba0987 wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

2) I noticed these (let me know you cannot access them)

The first shows, what I think is the original BroShep in game model with the words "John call soon"
The second shows the scary god kid of all space magic looking directly at you in a very scary way (i actually am a little scared of that expression) directly at you saying "last seen on earth. "

..****.. this kinda proves that the kid IS real

not unless its in your head already?

The fact the kid was scaling tall sleek buildings to get to where Shep was on earth, then running through a locked door whilst the lock marker stayed in a float... Then he hides in a duct with a warning marker on it, then magically vanishes without a noise, shortly afterward we hear a distinct growl from a reaper like in the books?

Then there was the fact that when he tried to escape not one of the soldiers helped him get or or get on the transport? Why would soldiers who are there to evacuate not pick the kid up and make sure he got on the transport?

We are literally the only people who "see" him in the game.

Then you have the strange dreams, plus these 2 photos are the only thing that dont contain "Missing", why are they different? Could it be done on purpose?

Also true, if he looked real and was talking to you but wasn't really there, whose to say Harby, or whovever is indoctrinating you isn't making you see stuff like that to affirm the lie?

[N7xELITE]

BioWare considering changing Mass Effect 3 ending

Will gamers get a new Mass Effect 3 ending? BioWare hasn't ruled it out. Writing on the official Mass Effect 3 Facebook page last night, the company said it has not yet decided whether it will offer fans a new ending to the space-faring role-playing game.


Could Mass Effect 3 have a different ending?
"We would like to clarify that we are actively and seriously taking all player feedback into consideration and have ruled nothing out," reads the statement. "At this time we are still collecting and considering your feedback and have not made a decision regarding requests to change the ending."

Mass Effect 3 launched on March 6 to a warm critical reception and heat from users regarding the game's ending and its day-one downloadable content, From Ashes. Regarding the end to Mass Effect 3, executive producer Casey Hudson said last week that he wanted the game to be memorable, admitting that the conclusion was intentionally designed to get gamers talking.

Members of the Mass Effect community have formed the charity petition called Retake Mass Effect ChipIn fund, collecting PayPal donations for the Child's Play charity as a way of encouraging BioWare to make alternate Mass Effect 3 endings. As of press time, the fund has amassed over $67,000.

Concerning the From Ashes DLC, Hudson has defended the content, noting that work did not begin until after the developer finished Mass Effect 3. Electronic Arts later revealed that parts of the DLC were included on game discs.

[JTP117]

masturch33f wrote...

Hi all,

dont know if it has been mentioned yet, but since everything depends on Shepard waking up in London, has anyone yet brought up an explanation why the rebars in the concrete look nearly identical to the cables on the citadel?

In Fact they are everywhere around the the place Shepard would be standing in the destruction ending.
Of course they dont look like cables in the vid, they dont bend and seem to be stiff. But the texture is very very similar.

Also, are you absolutely sure there are buildings in the background? Im not 100% sure anymore if its not just more rubble.

Well cables or not, he's lying smack dab in the middle of concrete, something not found on the citadel ever. the cables could very well be parts of a destroyed Mako or drop ship. God knows dozens of the damn things in pieces all around you.

[MegumiAzusa]

tb350mdx wrote...
2 Anderson calls FemShep child. A bit odd.

Nothing odd here, child is often used in this manner towards a woman coming from an older and higher ranking officer.

JTP117 wrote...

Well
cables or not, he's lying smack dab in the middle of concrete,
something not found on the citadel ever. the cables could very well be
parts of a destroyed Mako or drop ship. God knows dozens of the damn
things in pieces all around you.

You know, people can actually have bits of technology in their houses in the future

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 19 mars 2012 - 10:10 .

[Elp]

 I think the biggest problem with Indoctrination Theory is the fact that is doesn't explain why there was a cutscene of the Crucible fireing and showing what happened to the galaxy.If the entire ending is just Sheppard fighting indoctrination, and none of it had any real effect, the Crucible wouldn't have fired. 

You could say the fireing of the Crucible was also a hallucination. But whose hallucination would that be? It certainly isn't shown from the Sheppard perspective.
Also, if you succesfully fight the indoctrination by chosing the Destroy option, the indoctrination ends so there shouldn't be anymore hallucinations. Yet, you still see the Crucible fireing. According to the InDoc Theory, that shouldn't have happened. Which means that the Crucible fireing cannot be a hallucination. It actually fired. If the Crucible fired, it means Sheppard was successfull in fireing it.

Another problem with the Indoctrination Theory is the Stargazer scene. Apparently humanity survived (with advanced space flight capability), that can only be if the Reapers were stopped. This is a second indication that the Crucible was actually used.

I do believe there was some kind of 'hallucination', but it's purpose wasn't to deceive Sheppard and it didn't start when Sheppard was hit by the laser beam. I want to believe that Sheppard passed out on the elevator platform near the control panel and the Child detects this. The Child knows the cycle is no longer a valid Solution because over the years the Organics keep getting closer to completing the Crucible and now they have succeeded. The Child interfaces with the mind of the unconscious Sheppard in order to give him The Choice. This isn't that farfetched when you consider that InDoc works in a similar fashion and apparently the much less advanced Geth have similar technology. 

The symbolism used in The Choice scene shows that this part is NOT real. The Destroy option is triggered by shooting a conduit, that doesn't make any sense from an engineering/mechanical perspective. However, it does make sense when you see the gun as a symbol for destruction. It also explains the Child itself, the Catalyst has entered Sheppard's mind and has chosen a familiar form to represent itself (cliché, I know).
Although the appearance of The Choice isn't real, The Choice itself is and it's effects are. (highlighted as the tl;dr version of this post) The Crucible fires, Sheppard dies unless he choses the Destroy options, etc. etc. 


It's still a very poor ending, and offers no incentive at all to re-play either ME3 or its predecessors, but to me it's the only way for it to make sense. It's somewhat of a hybrid theory between InDoc Theory, and the uhm.. 'Everything was real' theory. 

Modifié par Elp, 19 mars 2012 - 10:10 .

[Earthborn_Shepard]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

tb350mdx wrote...
2 Anderson calls FemShep child. A bit odd.

Nothing odd here, child is often used in this manner towards a woman coming from an older and higher ranking officer.

Yeah, "daughter" would have sounded pretty weird.

[Vandicus]

I've listened to the betrayal soundtrack on my ipod quite a few times myself, but it didn't click at all with anything I'd heard in the game. Its probably only played at one part, or not at all.

Also on the topic of indoctrination, I know its been pointed out that its weird that TIM is able to try and indoctrinate the player unlike Saren, but has it been pointed out how bizarre it is that TIM is able to nearly succeed at indoctrinating both Anderson and Shepard in a matter of seconds, Anderson seeming to be fairly strong willed and Shepard being among the strongest willed in the galaxy, whereas the Reapers themselves are seemingly impotent(when taken at face value) when it comes to indoctrinating either person?

[ba0987]

JTP117 wrote...

ba0987 wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

2) I noticed these (let me know you cannot access them)

The first shows, what I think is the original BroShep in game model with the words "John call soon"
The second shows the scary god kid of all space magic looking directly at you in a very scary way (i actually am a little scared of that expression) directly at you saying "last seen on earth. "

..****.. this kinda proves that the kid IS real

not unless its in your head already?

The fact the kid was scaling tall sleek buildings to get to where Shep was on earth, then running through a locked door whilst the lock marker stayed in a float... Then he hides in a duct with a warning marker on it, then magically vanishes without a noise, shortly afterward we hear a distinct growl from a reaper like in the books?

Then there was the fact that when he tried to escape not one of the soldiers helped him get or or get on the transport? Why would soldiers who are there to evacuate not pick the kid up and make sure he got on the transport?

We are literally the only people who "see" him in the game.

Then you have the strange dreams, plus these 2 photos are the only thing that dont contain "Missing", why are they different? Could it be done on purpose?

Also true, if he looked real and was talking to you but wasn't really there, whose to say Harby, or whovever is indoctrinating you isn't making you see stuff like that to affirm the lie?

Indeed! My only issue is that we are the only people in the game who have acknowledged this kids existance in any way.

At the moment though I am cluching at straws until someone confirms if the name changes on the first poster? I looked at this just before the final act.

[buchoi]

They didn't plan indoctrination, they made and chose a horrible ending(in so many ways). I do hope they use indoctrination or some other clever means to give us a proper end. (not paid dlc)

[Coolfaec]

It's total crap either way, no matter what angle you look at it.

[GriffinXP]

N7xELITE wrote...

BioWare considering changing Mass Effect 3 ending

Will gamers get a new Mass Effect 3 ending? BioWare hasn't ruled it out. Writing on the official Mass Effect 3 Facebook page last night, the company said it has not yet decided whether it will offer fans a new ending to the space-faring role-playing game.


Could Mass Effect 3 have a different ending?
"We would like to clarify that we are actively and seriously taking all player feedback into consideration and have ruled nothing out," reads the statement. "At this time we are still collecting and considering your feedback and have not made a decision regarding requests to change the ending."

Mass Effect 3 launched on March 6 to a warm critical reception and heat from users regarding the game's ending and its day-one downloadable content, From Ashes. Regarding the end to Mass Effect 3, executive producer Casey Hudson said last week that he wanted the game to be memorable, admitting that the conclusion was intentionally designed to get gamers talking.

Members of the Mass Effect community have formed the charity petition called Retake Mass Effect ChipIn fund, collecting PayPal donations for the Child's Play charity as a way of encouraging BioWare to make alternate Mass Effect 3 endings. As of press time, the fund has amassed over $67,000.

Concerning the From Ashes DLC, Hudson has defended the content, noting that work did not begin until after the developer finished Mass Effect 3. Electronic Arts later revealed that parts of the DLC were included on game discs.

Wait.  Wasn't almost everything from the From Ashes DLC a part of the original game?  I seem to remember that the leaked script had Javik in it.