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[JTP117]

Bawbtheepic wrote...

@Sajuro I put the wrong name...my bad

Just use the quote option

[zakaryzb]

So here is to hoping that tomorrow will bring SOME form of news and not just "Hey, multiplayer killed 1 million Brutes!" (although I would like to say I contributed). One thing has bothered me this whole time regarding Bioware's statements, or lack there of, is that they've been saying that they want to wait until people have finished the game. However, if it is just an explanation that we want as to some possible clarity to the ending why can't they just release that information with a simple "SPOILER ALERT" written all over it.

My guess is that either A) the theory is true and they are waiting for the time they were planning on making the announcement (fingers crossed) or they REALLY screwed up and don't know how to handle it.

Oh, and I am glad to report the line has been continued to be held.

[Bawbtheepic]

Can't I'm on IPOF

[LadyVakarian]

Bawbtheepic wrote...

@Lady do you "mind" the mass effect 3 ending? I did not mind sacrificing myself to "Save" everyone, even if it means burning everything the first....9 times I played I think..

Honestly, I had no problem with sacrifice. My problem lies with the fact that I have more questions than answers, there were just too many plotholes, there was no other option but to die, and none of my previous choices mattered. That is what was so upsetting about the ending. 

Modifié par LadyVakarian, 20 mars 2012 - 06:16 .

[Bawbtheepic]

@zap or you know...they could be...indoctrinated...*gasp*

[JTP117]

Ohio fleet signing off now. Keep it going people, hold that line like ****** during a movie.

[Bawbtheepic]

Why did it get quiet?

[Rob Psyence]

I'll hold it like I'm on a panamerican flight in a plane with an out of order restroom.

[N7L4D]

Here is how I see it
Retake mass effect(some, or a good chunk, you know the radicals) = Tim/Cerberus
hope= shep/alliance = indoctrination theory 

[T_l_M_B_0]

Bawbtheepic wrote...

Why did it get quiet?

People are to busy holding the line.
Washington State Fleet reporting in. This line is like diareah while being stuck in traffic. I'M HOLDING IT!

[CitadelSurfer]

 Birmingham Fleet holding the line here guys! Can't get away from this thread it is so amazing we are all doing great work here. Keep Bioware on their toes and we will get the rest of the ending!! We can only hope!

I should go......to work.

[Topsider]

The ending haters are pretty much telling the ending likers that their opinion doesn't matter. I thought the end was low key and disappointing but not the complete disaster it's made out to be. Demanding changes that not everyone wants is quite arrogant.

"WE, the haters, want new endings, you are s*** outta luck. Accept our version or none at all".

DLC should expand the endings we have not totally rewrite them. Indoc theory is amusing because it means the game shipped without a real conclusion. That is indefensible.

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

Got caught up looking at alternate ending videos on youtube , now sleepy and going to bed.Hold The Line were so d**n close to a resolution on this.

Modifié par LOST SPARTANJLC, 20 mars 2012 - 06:39 .

[Rob Psyence]

Topsider wrote...

The ending haters are pretty much telling the ending likers that their opinion doesn't matter. I thought the end was low key and disappointing but not the complete disaster it's made out to be. Demanding changes that not everyone wants is quite arrogant.

"WE, the haters, want new endings, you are s*** outta luck. Accept our version or none at all".

DLC should expand the endings we have not totally rewrite them. Indoc theory is amusing because it means the game shipped without a real conclusion. That is indefensible.

 
What about the indoctoration theory do you think is rewriting the endings? If anything we're building on the endings with deductive reasoning. It could be defensible if  it was to give players, at least the ones that caught on, the experience of being indoctorinated. There are several key observations that point to it being intentional.

[darkcerb]

Topsider wrote...

The ending haters are pretty much telling the ending likers that their opinion doesn't matter. I thought the end was low key and disappointing but not the complete disaster it's made out to be. Demanding changes that not everyone wants is quite arrogant.

"WE, the haters, want new endings, you are s*** outta luck. Accept our version or none at all".

DLC should expand the endings we have not totally rewrite them. Indoc theory is amusing because it means the game shipped without a real conclusion. That is indefensible.

The ending is a complete disaster, that's the problem deus ex machina, teleportation and people acting completly out of charecter in every scene of the last 10 mins.

No one's saying you can't like the ending or that you'd have to accept any others. Even if I personally can't see how you'd be satisfied with the endings let alone if you'd played all three.

[Captain Shakespeare]

New York fleet here, the line is being held!

[Bawbtheepic]

@CS. I have a wall of mass effect boxes and army men xD

[Sajuro]

Bawbtheepic wrote...

@zap or you know...they could be...indoctrinated...*gasp*

Yeah, that building just has a god awful hum, I think it's the A/C

[Bawbtheepic]

Okay so I was thinking, the choices that you make during the last five years don't affect YOU at the end, anybody else think the game was meant to affect the galaxy, and everyone in it besides you...

[Topsider]

Rob Psyence wrote...

Topsider wrote...

The ending haters are pretty much telling the ending likers that their opinion doesn't matter. I thought the end was low key and disappointing but not the complete disaster it's made out to be. Demanding changes that not everyone wants is quite arrogant.

"WE, the haters, want new endings, you are s*** outta luck. Accept our version or none at all".

DLC should expand the endings we have not totally rewrite them. Indoc theory is amusing because it means the game shipped without a real conclusion. That is indefensible.

 
What about the indoctoration theory do you think is rewriting the endings? If anything we're building on the endings with deductive reasoning. It could be defensible if  it was to give players, at least the ones that caught on, the experience of being indoctorinated. There are several key observations that point to it being intentional.

The indoctrination theory is basically saying that the current "endings" never happened. It was all a dream... and nothing is resolved. Everything that we did is in doubt. It would essentially be a rewrite discarding the catalyst and your "choice" for a different outcome. Indoc should've been one of the "bad" endings, game over, reapers win... but not something that's pure guesswork.
You could make the entire game an indoctrinated haze if you want, or even earlier in Arrival. Conspiracy theories at their best. Some will never play ME3 again and will never buy DLC, so it's okay that they don't get a true ending? 

[nicotr23]

I just learned of the federal court...
I can not believe it!!!

[Dark Dajin]

Dark Dajin wrote...

Another note (brought to my attention by a friend):

The Child disappears immediately after Shepard 'breaks the indoctrination' and chooses to destroy.
www.youtube.com/watch

The Child smiles after Shepard 'falls for the indoctrination' and chooses to control
www.youtube.com/watch
(videos courtesy to IGN)


And why do we think the Catalyst is the citadel? Are we not told by a prothean VI that was hacked by TIM before we talked to it?
www.youtube.com/watch

Doesn't seem to have been noticed, so re-posting.

[Rob Psyence]

Topsider wrote...

Rob Psyence wrote...

Topsider wrote...

The ending haters are pretty much telling the ending likers that their opinion doesn't matter. I thought the end was low key and disappointing but not the complete disaster it's made out to be. Demanding changes that not everyone wants is quite arrogant.

"WE, the haters, want new endings, you are s*** outta luck. Accept our version or none at all".

DLC should expand the endings we have not totally rewrite them. Indoc theory is amusing because it means the game shipped without a real conclusion. That is indefensible.

 
What about the indoctoration theory do you think is rewriting the endings? If anything we're building on the endings with deductive reasoning. It could be defensible if  it was to give players, at least the ones that caught on, the experience of being indoctorinated. There are several key observations that point to it being intentional.

The indoctrination theory is basically saying that the current "endings" never happened. It was all a dream... and nothing is resolved. Everything that we did is in doubt. It would essentially be a rewrite discarding the catalyst and your "choice" for a different outcome. Indoc should've been one of the "bad" endings, game over, reapers win... but not something that's pure guesswork.
You could make the entire game an indoctrinated haze if you want, or even earlier in Arrival. Conspiracy theories at their best. Some will never play ME3 again and will never buy DLC, so it's okay that they don't get a true ending? 

No it would still remain, only the ending would be expanded upon otherwise there would be no point to their previous work if they just plucked it out.  Indoctorination wouldn't just be a bad ending because then nothing could be overcome.

At this point we don't know if it would be a DLC or an update.

I don't know if I'm speaking for anyone else but my interpretation is not a "Conspiracy theory" I interpreted the ending being an indoctorination battle from the moment I saw the catalyst ai in the form of the boy. Without spoilers and any outside influence I thought over it in my mind and chose destruction..perhaps thats why I'm not so butthurt about it. TIM being paragon, Anderson being renegade? come on.

Modifié par Rob Psyence, 20 mars 2012 - 07:18 .

[Vahilor]

I only noticed the dissappearing thing at my endings .. but somhow can't clearly make out the child smiling in the control ending. But in the controll ending the child seems to stay longer.. somhow and dissapears after Sheppard is "consumed".
In the destroy ending it dissappears right after you start shooting.

[Nevara]

I was doing a half-hearted playthrough the other night (for some masochistic reason) and I had a question or two about the indoctrination theory because I stand by it but I don't want to feel like I'm totally clutching at straws for nothing.

1) How far are we talking when it comes to the indoctrination? Some say the kid didn't exist from the beginning because of the lack of acknowledgement from Anderson (when spotted in the vents) to the NPCs who were guarding civilians as they were getting on the transport. Or has that been completely dismissed at this point?

2) If not, then I pose this strange question did anyone notice the cold indignation on the kid's face when he actually got on the shuttle? It wasn't a look of fear it was emotionless and damning.

Bah, my mind runneth over.