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[greywardencommander]

Erethrian wrote...

Of course, the current endings were meant to be this way. That doesn't mean the indoctrination theory isn't true.

I will continue to believe that, especially with his specific reference to 'current endings' not 'endings'

Edit: I think that could be telling that they were maybe doing this and expected criticism maybe even some backlash but not to this scale. I can think of no other reason why he would say 'current endings' not 'endings' the latter being definitive after all. Even if its not IDT (there is the geth virtual reality idea i've seen mooted as well and the explicit in game nod by Joker lol, worse idea in my opinion but still it's there) maybe they had this idea of 'not the real ending'

Modifié par greywardencommander, 21 mars 2012 - 04:19 .

[Erethrian]

^ Also, this.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Erethrian wrote...

Joukahainen wrote...

chkchkchk wrote...

Watch the "breath" scene and note the smooth curved structure in the background.  (Keep your eyes on the purple misty part.)  Is that something we've seen before?  If we can locate that in London, we've got good evidence.  If that's something we've seen on the Citadel, we might be in trouble.

Well i dont think that disproves our theory.. There is no way how Shepard could survive the explosion of the Citaled. And if Citaled somehow ended down to Earth with Shepard alive, it would just be space magic No way that Shepard could survive re-entry to Earth´s atmoshpere without any armour.

Hold the line!

This, and:

"He defends the "current" endings because as I said before the actual game is "complete". The endings were meant to be this way. He simply says they never expected this reaction from us the fans. Notice that he says they'll explain things on April. He never says that there was nothing coming, he just says what he needs to say to calm down the outrage. We must hold the line with the Indoctrinaton theory and wait for April 6th! :)"

I think Bioware expected backlash, I just dont think they expected it to be this huge and that is where the "never expected this reaction from the fans" could be coming from. Just a thought.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 21 mars 2012 - 04:09 .

[Vahilor]

I somhow I don't know what I should think about at "We are Artists" comments. I'm a artist myself and even as a artist and with all artist freedom you should allways be open to constructive critics... for example if I draw a picture and 90% of all people lookng at it and telling me "Sorry the picture looks wrong and most stuff I see on it are out of place and don't ft." I really have to think about... that there must be somthing pretty wrong... the same with storys, endings, games... if the majority is not satisfied.. even with all artistic freesom I must have done somthing wrong.. really...

[Flapperrr]

Xmmmmm.....

http://blog.bioware....012/03/21/4108/

[greywardencommander]

Flapperrr wrote...

Xmmmmm.....

http://blog.bioware....012/03/21/4108/

beat you to it ages ago buddy

[Sammuthegreat]

Here's a thought - don't know if it's been brought up before, apologies if it has.

No-one seems to know what the Crucible does. What if it's sort of the antithesis to indoctrination? As in, it sends out lovely colorful space magic that undoes the effects of indoctrination permanently. We've been told that indoctrination is nothing more than condition via electromagnetic waves - it wouldn't be totally absurd that sending out a different electromagnetic wave could perform the opposite. I'd assume snap-indoctrinated beings - anything reaperised or huskified - would probably die or stop functioning when the indoctrination disappeared.

It would certainly weaken the reapers, and it's certainly a purpose that no in-game character has thought of...

Just a thought.

[Erethrian]

Yeah, I think they're trying to calm down the rage in here.

They're dealing with refunds FTC complaints, etc. So they have to say something, even if this was planned. There's still hope for the Indoctrination Theory.

[Pascal219]

Someone should screenshot that blogpost before they realize he said "current endings" and change it.

[Red Starblazer]

I would just like to say this. I've posted in here several times supporting the Indoc Theory (which it is, no doubts here), and how Bioware is god for it. But I would like to say that they still dropped the ball.

Because the initial emotional orgasm we had throughout that game of happiness, rage and even sorrow (I cried when I lost Mordin and Legion) is gone. I WILL NOT have the same emotional hightness that I did when spending 60 hours straight playthrough on Insanity when I picked it up in stores when I play any future DLC revealing the true ending. It just won't have the same effect. What they should have done was JUST FREAKING INCLUDE THE REAL ENDING IN THE GAME, so the emotional stakes could remain present.

I still feel jipped. While the genius of it all is most definitely acknowledged, I still feel jipped..And that's grounds enough to cry again..

[RADIUMEYEZ]

Red Starblazer wrote...

I would just like to say this. I've posted in here several times supporting the Indoc Theory (which it is, no doubts here), and how Bioware is god for it. But I would like to say that they still dropped the ball.

Because the initial emotional orgasm we had throughout that game of happiness, rage and even sorrow (I cried when I lost Mordin and Legion) is gone. I WILL NOT have the same emotional hightness that I did when spending 60 hours straight playthrough on Insanity when I picked it up in stores when I play any future DLC revealing the true ending. It just won't have the same effect. What they should have done was JUST FREAKING INCLUDE THE REAL ENDING IN THE GAME, so the emotional stakes could remain present.

I still feel jipped. While the genius of it all is most definitely acknowledged, I still feel jipped..And that's grounds enough to cry again..

Agreed all of the emotional parts of the game really moved me as well. The one that really got me was the part where you talk to all of your squadmates before you go into the final battle on Earth. Talking to each one was very moving and the one that got me the most was with my LI Tali. Now I dunno how I will feel going through it if/when they do release these real endings I will see.

[Sammuthegreat]

Vahilor wrote...

I somhow I don't know what I should think about at "We are Artists" comments. I'm a artist myself and even as a artist and with all artist freedom you should allways be open to constructive critics... for example if I draw a picture and 90% of all people lookng at it and telling me "Sorry the picture looks wrong and most stuff I see on it are out of place and don't ft." I really have to think about... that there must be somthing pretty wrong... the same with storys, endings, games... if the majority is not satisfied.. even with all artistic freesom I must have done somthing wrong.. really...

Agreed. It's like this picture here. Someone drew it, so strictly speaking it's "art", but just because it's art doesn't mean people can't legitimately say it's terrible.

[JTP117]

variobunz wrote...

nyrocron wrote...

http://blog.bioware....012/03/21/4108/

Thanks.
"current ending" seems pretty clear, does it?

exactly, just more PR doube talk to keep us thinking

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Red Starblazer wrote...

I would just like to say this. I've posted in here several times supporting the Indoc Theory (which it is, no doubts here), and how Bioware is god for it. But I would like to say that they still dropped the ball.

Because the initial emotional orgasm we had throughout that game of happiness, rage and even sorrow (I cried when I lost Mordin and Legion) is gone. I WILL NOT have the same emotional hightness that I did when spending 60 hours straight playthrough on Insanity when I picked it up in stores when I play any future DLC revealing the true ending. It just won't have the same effect. What they should have done was JUST FREAKING INCLUDE THE REAL ENDING IN THE GAME, so the emotional stakes could remain present.

I still feel jipped. While the genius of it all is most definitely acknowledged, I still feel jipped..And that's grounds enough to cry again..

I dont think anything is lost in waiting, if anything the emotional stakes are currently much higher because they extend beyond the game itself.

The entire Indoctrination part would have lost its entire punch if you simply woke up and was like "Oh, it was not real" and then continued. This only ahs the effect it has because of the cut of and the questions which I think is worth it.

If it is true off course.

[greywardencommander]

Sammuthegreat wrote...

Here's a thought - don't know if it's been brought up before, apologies if it has.

No-one seems to know what the Crucible does. What if it's sort of the antithesis to indoctrination? As in, it sends out lovely colorful space magic that undoes the effects of indoctrination permanently. We've been told that indoctrination is nothing more than condition via electromagnetic waves - it wouldn't be totally absurd that sending out a different electromagnetic wave could perform the opposite. I'd assume snap-indoctrinated beings - anything reaperised or huskified - would probably die or stop functioning when the indoctrination disappeared.

It would certainly weaken the reapers, and it's certainly a purpose that no in-game character has thought of...

Just a thought.

again if that's what was intended, it should have been explained after the fact :/ also people have said the Reapers may in fact be indoctrinated themselves all those minds controlled to do what they are doing hence the 'unknowable' and 'beyond conception' they themselves don't know, they just do.

[Silhouett3]

PR talk has never gotten so bold before. Endings are like WEATHER now..

Modifié par Silhouett3, 21 mars 2012 - 04:27 .

[Elenterx]

 
http://kotaku.com/58...dium=socialflow

[Erethrian]

Elenterx wrote...

 
http://kotaku.com/58...dium=socialflow

Hahaha, they speak always too soon...

They didn't say they're working on modified endings.  They're saying they'll explain things on April.  

[Turbotanden]

Elenterx wrote...

 
http://kotaku.com/58...dium=socialflow

"the co-founder of BioWare [...] said today that changes for the game's conclusion are in the works."
He did not! That sounds like they are changing the ending. He actually said :
"a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions"
Which is something completely different. Still in line with Indoctrination with followup.

Modifié par Turbotanden, 21 mars 2012 - 04:33 .

[Raze4573]

Enemy forces start to feel the pressure, keep firing. Hold the line!
Somehow I am more convinced by that statement than all the promises Casey Hudson made.
April it is BioWare, april it is...
Now to just keep finding more and more plausible evidence for the Indoctrination Theory :3 *Boots up ME3*

[Erethrian]

Raze4573 wrote...

Enemy forces start to feel the pressure, keep firing. Hold the line!
Somehow I am more convinced by that statement than all the promises Casey Hudson made.
April it is BioWare, april it is...
Now to just keep finding more and more plausible evidence for the Indoctrination Theory :3 *Boots up ME3*

+1

[AdmiralsJack]

hey guys and girls, are there any official news since Monday?

[Raze4573]

...I have an uneasy feeling that BioWare will cause all of our brains and collective minds to bleed on April 1st...
In return for all the posts and threads and twitter msgs etc etc.
"Pony Effect! Brand new crossover between the loudest titles. It explains how Commander Shepard survived the events of ME3. Hint, FRIENDSHIP IS MAGIC!"
Or something even more horrid and mind flaying.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Why April, why?

I am going to Japan at the end of the month and not back until April the 15.

[Erethrian]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Why April, why?

I am going to Japan at the end of the month and not back until April the 15.

Because of PAX.