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Has anybody noticed that this thread never goes to the top of the forum? The only way I have been able to find it is by clicking on old post in the profile.


Is the forum really that stressed lol? OR something more insidious!

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Copy of a post I just made in that VR trhead I was talking about earlier. I know it doesn't belong here and don't mean to hijack but I'm flabbergasted right now!!!! Here's my post to that thread:

OMG!!! HOLY CRAP!!! Was just playing through Overlord on a toon I had that hadn't done it and was looking around outside on the planet and THERE ARE TWO FREAKING MOONS THERE!!!! It looks JUST like the ending planet shown in the Normandy crash and stargazer clip! That can't be a coincidence. Well, maybe it can, but holy hell, I think you nailed it!

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Cedrica007 wrote...

OMG!!! HOLY CRAP!!! Was just playing through Overlord on a toon I had that hadn't done it and was looking around outside on the planet and THERE ARE TWO FREAKING MOONS THERE!!!! It looks JUST like the ending planet shown in the Normandy crash and stargazer clip! That can't be a coincidence. Well, maybe it can, but holy hell, I think you nailed it!


This was in the VR thread, thought others might want to take a look. On to something?

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Denvian wrote...

Has anybody noticed that this thread never goes to the top of the forum? The only way I have been able to find it is by clicking on old post in the profile.


Is the forum really that stressed lol? OR something more insidious!

strange
edit: it does show up on the top, well under the pinned topic of course.

I suppose it's just because alot of people are posting on other topics too.

Modifié par monrapias, 22 mars 2012 - 12:34 .


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Cedrica007 wrote...

Copy of a post I just made in that VR trhead I was talking about earlier. I know it doesn't belong here and don't mean to hijack but I'm flabbergasted right now!!!! Here's my post to that thread:

OMG!!! HOLY CRAP!!! Was just playing through Overlord on a toon I had that hadn't done it and was looking around outside on the planet and THERE ARE TWO FREAKING MOONS THERE!!!! It looks JUST like the ending planet shown in the Normandy crash and stargazer clip! That can't be a coincidence. Well, maybe it can, but holy hell, I think you nailed it!

lmao didn't see you'd done it yourself

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Cedrica007 wrote...

Copy of a post I just made in that VR trhead I was talking about earlier. I know it doesn't belong here and don't mean to hijack but I'm flabbergasted right now!!!! Here's my post to that thread:

OMG!!! HOLY CRAP!!! Was just playing through Overlord on a toon I had that hadn't done it and was looking around outside on the planet and THERE ARE TWO FREAKING MOONS THERE!!!! It looks JUST like the ending planet shown in the Normandy crash and stargazer clip! That can't be a coincidence. Well, maybe it can, but holy hell, I think you nailed it!


Screenshot, please.

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monrapias wrote...

Denvian wrote...

Has anybody noticed that this thread never goes to the top of the forum? The only way I have been able to find it is by clicking on old post in the profile.


Is the forum really that stressed lol? OR something more insidious!

strange
edit: it does show up on the top, well under the pinned topic of course.

I suppose it's just because alot of people are posting on other topics too.


Hate when it is just me being stupid

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greywardencommander wrote...

Cedrica007 wrote...

Copy of a post I just made in that VR trhead I was talking about earlier. I know it doesn't belong here and don't mean to hijack but I'm flabbergasted right now!!!! Here's my post to that thread:

OMG!!! HOLY CRAP!!! Was just playing through Overlord on a toon I had that hadn't done it and was looking around outside on the planet and THERE ARE TWO FREAKING MOONS THERE!!!! It looks JUST like the ending planet shown in the Normandy crash and stargazer clip! That can't be a coincidence. Well, maybe it can, but holy hell, I think you nailed it!

lmao didn't see you'd done it yourself


LOL Nobody is even looking at that thread figured I'd share cause to me the two theories sort of complement each other and don't compete. I wish I had the game on my comp so I could take a screenshot. When I looked up at the sky on that planet, I really didn't expect to see that, lol. Almost peed my pants! Too much obsession with this ending fiasco clearly.

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mawdudi wrote...

im not sure if anyone has noticed this, but i found really lazy programming in the ending:
after you get hit by harbringers laser, press your shoot key. you can hear the pistol shot and see the muzzle flash...even though shepard is lying in the ground and the small cutscene is going on


Hmmm, what do you think Shep gets up to when we can't see him?

Modifié par Redbelle, 22 mars 2012 - 12:40 .


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IT WAS INDOCTRINATION! TWO IMPORTANT CLUES:
1. (to disprove the whole, "that wasn't Shepard at the end, it was someone else" theory) when u play female, its a woman breathing in at the end.
2. When she wakes up, you can hear reapers in the background.

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Golferguy758 wrote...

Cedrica007 wrote...

Copy of a post I just made in that VR trhead I was talking about earlier. I know it doesn't belong here and don't mean to hijack but I'm flabbergasted right now!!!! Here's my post to that thread:

OMG!!! HOLY CRAP!!! Was just playing through Overlord on a toon I had that hadn't done it and was looking around outside on the planet and THERE ARE TWO FREAKING MOONS THERE!!!! It looks JUST like the ending planet shown in the Normandy crash and stargazer clip! That can't be a coincidence. Well, maybe it can, but holy hell, I think you nailed it!


Screenshot, please.


I don't know how to do it from the xbox... Posted Image Call me stunned... It's planet Aite, Typhon system, in the Phoenix Massing cluster if anyone can take a quick look and post a screenie.

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Cedrica007 wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Cedrica007 wrote...

Copy of a post I just made in that VR trhead I was talking about earlier. I know it doesn't belong here and don't mean to hijack but I'm flabbergasted right now!!!! Here's my post to that thread:

OMG!!! HOLY CRAP!!! Was just playing through Overlord on a toon I had that hadn't done it and was looking around outside on the planet and THERE ARE TWO FREAKING MOONS THERE!!!! It looks JUST like the ending planet shown in the Normandy crash and stargazer clip! That can't be a coincidence. Well, maybe it can, but holy hell, I think you nailed it!


Screenshot, please.


I don't know how to do it from the xbox... Posted Image Call me stunned... It's planet Aite, Typhon system, in the Phoenix Massing cluster if anyone can take a quick look and post a screenie.


try as I might can't find screenshots, might take someone to actually go look on PC and take pic of screenshot, I did however look up the planet
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Aite - two moons, not that this particularly means much without a pic
so hypothetically if it is the planet in Stargazer is 'phoenix' a coincidence (regardless of IDT) 'rising from the ashes' etc the new civilization talking about Shepard

Modifié par greywardencommander, 22 mars 2012 - 12:51 .


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You can see it in the background at 7:01 in this youtube. Still looking...



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I'm sure there are more planets that have more than one moon, if not what is alligned with Aite?

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LadyVakarian wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

byne wrote...

Well, since people seem to be talking about the Relays in the end representing Shep's brain, I figure I'll quote something I said nearly a hundred pages back:

byne wrote...

Wait wait wait, hold everything.

Can someone verify if the chain reaction starts in the Viper system or not?

Because, I have seen multiple people (myself included) say they believe that at the end, the galaxy is representative of the neural pathways in Shep's brain, with red being the brain rejecting indoctrination, and blue/green accepting it.

If the chain reaction does in fact start in the Viper nebula, we could assume that Shep's brain perceives that zone of space as being where indoctrination started (by being unconscious near Object Rho for two days), hence why the chain reaction of rejection/acceptance would start there.

I think I just blew my own mind.


We did in fact verify that it seems that the chain reaction starts in the Viper Nebula, which makes no sense, because the only Relay in that system was the Alpha Relay, which we destroyed.


Now.. that's EXTREMELY interesting! Either very good evidence or a giant ****up.


I know I am late to the game on the above subject, but I just wanted to provide evidence in the form of a screenie to confirm the theory that the beam does, in fact, start in the Viper Nebula:

Mass Effect 2 map showing where it is located on the map:
http://images.euroga...1/resize/600x-1

Mass Effect 3 Screen I took of the ending: 
Posted Image


Hmmmm? :whistle:

Not to mention the fact that as you watch the video of the relays, the beam doesn't reach the Local Cluster for quite a while! :whistle:


Indoctrination Theory has more evidence then it needs. I don't see how things can be any more clear then this. It's ridicilous at this stage.

The Arrival DLC is key-center for ME3 and it's plot. It's a shame alot of people missed it.

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Arrival, in my opinion is the very beginning of the whole IT.

When Shepard gets in contact with Object Rho then is out for two days, that's when the beginning is.

Modifié par IronSabbath88, 22 mars 2012 - 12:55 .


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lex0r11 wrote...

Legion109 wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Capeo wrote...Wow. We finally get a definitive statement that the endings were exactly what they planned, from the co-founder no less, and the IT cult still keeps chugging along.

you must really hate this thread, am i right? why do you keep coming here? that is saying alot about you. if you have read something evident in that blog entry, then you must be PR GOD. people saying this thread keeps grasping at straws? the irony is killing me. you call us desperate? i'm about to soil myself from the overflowing of hypocrisy in all your posts. you leech at every sentence to find anything to make you feel superior so you can 'i told you so'. okay, we get it. you hate indoc. leave it.but please, enlighten me what i couldn't read in that statement. i will reward you for it with whatever you want.hell, i might think about picking up that old offer and convince my girlfriend to cosplay as an asari stripper and take pictures of it. and i will cosplay as a batarian gigolo if you find anything EVIDENT in that wall of PR.




Why you have to put that out there now I'm going to have to find proof that IT is wrong because Asari strippers are so much win.


- We dont hold lines in Las Vegas we do lines -


Indoception - the belief it was an Indoctrination in a Hallucination caused by the Indoctrination in the Dreams.

i've been offering this to every objector of IT for days. nobody's been able to claim it. and i hope it stays that way, not just for the sake of this theory..
wake up shepard and hold the line people.

My Proof]http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/270/828/4e3.jpg]Proof IT is wrong[/url]
- We dont hold lines in Las Vegas we do lines -

Indoception - the belief it was an Indoctrination in a Hallucination caused by the Indoctrination in the Dreams.

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MalexT wrote...

Out of interest, how did you manage this? What software did you use?


I used Ableton Live, but it can be done in any other DAW or sound editing program. It's pretty simple if you know just a little about signals theory.

The trick I used is called phase shifting. If you take two identical signals, and move the phase in one of them for 180 degrees (i.e. reverse the phase), and then sum them up, the result will be zero. In this case there was only one identical voice - the kid's one - so after sumation it got silent, leaving the rest preety much untouched (though I can't really figure why it lost so much of the quality; maybe it's because of the reverbation).

This picture preety much shows how it works: http://documentation...0_PhaseWave.png

Hope that helps :)

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Ashley - Commander, do you still work for Cerberus.

Shep - No Ash, the Reapers are my one true love now.......... did I just say that out loud?

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IronSabbath88 wrote...

Arrival, in my opinion is the very beginning of the whole IT.

When Shepard gets in contact with Object Rho then is out for two days, that's when the beginning is.


see my previous point about OPTIONAL Arrival being the 'end of ME2' in DLC because the events happen in beginning of ME3 regardless of having played it.

This contradicts those claiming they WOULDN'T end the game on DLC and also the fact they wouldn't 'force' you to have picked destroy even when they've forced you to kill over 300,000 Batarians, they also 'force you' to have some sort of Rachni Queen regardless of your choice.

They're certainly not above 'forcing' the narrative on you.

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Aite's gonna be toast relatively soon anyways, if you read the description of the planet.

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Aite

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In this youtube of Overlord at the 5 minute mark M44 says "Geographic conditions indicate and aesthetically pleasing view nearby" "Organic life forms may wish to take note". That was the point where I decided to look up in my game and my jaw dropped, lol. At 5:50 you can definitely see it. Is it the same??? Hard to say for sure.

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greywardencommander wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Arrival, in my opinion is the very beginning of the whole IT.

When Shepard gets in contact with Object Rho then is out for two days, that's when the beginning is.


see my previous point about OPTIONAL Arrival being the 'end of ME2' in DLC because the events happen in beginning of ME3 regardless of having played it.

This contradicts those claiming they WOULDN'T end the game on DLC and also the fact they wouldn't 'force' you to have picked destroy even when they've forced you to kill over 300,000 Batarians, they also 'force you' to have some sort of Rachni Queen regardless of your choice.

They're certainly not above 'forcing' the narrative on you.


You're really intent on hating BioWare, aren't you?

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DeadLetterBox wrote...

Aite's gonna be toast relatively soon anyways, if you read the description of the planet.

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Aite


aite that just a *****?

HARHAR PUNS

#19825
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 Guys everyone with half a braincell know's it's NOT space magic, Bioware would never do this, the video shows why it is...