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[McWhitey3]

My thoughts on what happened during development:

Hudson: We need this game to be awesome. We need it to feel memorable. We need to make it the epic that the first 2 were and more...So I propose this...You know that Revan reveal in KOTOR? Well I want everyone to feel that WTF moment for an entire month! Then we will drop free DLC later that continues that story....you know like how movies are now in 2 parts and release 6 months from each other.

Team: They are going to hate you

Hudson: So be it.

[Redbelle]

Hey folks.

Fox news has reported that Bioware hinted at a potential 16 different endings.

Now that would have been more like it

[Rifneno]

ZajoE38 wrote...

Synthetics and organics chaos theory is not valid. Because Geth and Quarians are cooperating and there is no sign that Protheans created AI that killed them, is it? I thing that Catalyst is not even controlling Reapers. I thing the Catalyst is Harbinger.

I also want to add that one of the core messages of ME 2&3 was that our fear of AIs going Skynet on us likely our basic fear of the unknown combined with our imaginations running wild.  Legion and EDI are both clear moral lessons to the audience.  If starkid's drivel is true then the writers did a complete 160 at speeds that would snap the wings off an F-22 Raptor.  I didn't buy the ending on that basis alone.

bigstig wrote...

It's shutting down the planets defence so that his kin can be with their God,  I missed the Leviathan of Dis part but I still stand by my point that not everyone who does the reapers bidding has to be indoctrinated.

I suppose there's also lunatics.  But no person in control of a sane mind sides with the Reapers.  Jellyfish or not.

Erethrian wrote...

That's why the first thing I said was:
....

Ahh.  Apologies, I'm skimming too much I guess.  This thread grows like a weed.

You're right. In fact that's why I think that even if you did arrival Shepard has not reaper tech. (Well, maybe implanted by cerberus in the Lazarus project, but I doubt it).

Why do you think that's unlikely?  I think it's extremely likely.  Consider: a) Miranda complains about having to work with a bunch of black boxes on the Lazarus Project.  Why would they need to hide the nature of tech from her?  It's not like she's going to judge TIM for a copyright violation and he's already trusted her with billions of credits worth of resources.   They make a specific point in the view logs at Cronos Station that Shepard was totally beyond any feasible means of saving.  His scientists told him it just can't be done regardless of resources or research.  Then they did it and never explained.  c) Cerberus already used Reaper tech in Paul Grayson, and would very shortly after use it to create EDI, followed by TIM himself getting Reaper augmentations.  d) People always try to debunk the eye thing by pointing out renegade Shep's eyes have a similar but far less pronounced pattern.  They're right, too.  And if IT is true then they need an event before ME3 which is mandatory (even Arrival isn't canon for some stupid reason) to use for his early exposure to indoctrination.  His time near Sovereign and the derelict Reaper were both very brief and indoctrination requires prolonged exposure.  But if he had some Reaper tech in his implants... perfect tie-in.

[ZajoE38]

Yeah the moment in KotOR then Revan put down the mask was awe-inspiring. I hoped they do the same to ME3. But they did the closure that time. I want that closure now on ME3. I can't wait to 6th April. Should we be arguing about this for next 2 week our heads are going to explode. Damn do I want from BW that much to know how my favorite story ends? So many questions.

[Denvian]

 

Redbelle wrote...

Hey folks.

Fox news has reported that Bioware hinted at a potential 16 different endings.

Now that would have been more like it

 



Endings Spoilers:

Collector's Base Destroyed

0 to 1,749 EMS: Your only choice is to destroy the Reapers. Earth is destroyed.

1,750 to 1,899 EMS: Shepard can choose to destroy the Reapers, or control them. If you destroy the Reapers, Earth is destroyed in the process as well. If you control the Reapers, Earth is devastated but not destroyed.

1,900 to 2,349 EMS: Shepard can choose between destroying and controlling Reapers. Both choices save earth, and humanity survives, however Earth's buildings still get vaporized.

2,350 to 2,649 EMS: Shepard can control Reapers, and save Earth

2,650 to 2,799 EMS: Shepard can destroy Reapers, and save Earth. Shepard Dies.

2,800 to 3,999 EMS: Shepard is able to create a link between Synthetics and Organics, and Earth and the Galaxy are saved

4,000 to 4,999 EMS: You can destroy the Reapers and Earth is saved. If you shot TIM on time and saved Anderson, Shepard breathes (Survives).

5,000+ EMS: You can destroy all Reapers. Earth saved as well. Shepard will breath, whether you attempted to save Anderson or not. (Perfect Ending)

Collector's Base Remained Intact

0 to 1,749 EMS: Shepard's only choice is to destroy the Reapers. Earth is destroyed.

1,750 to 2,049 EMS: Shepard can control the Reapers or destroy them. Destroying the Reapers also destroys Earth. Controlling the Reapers damages earth but does not destroy it.

2050 to 2,349 EMS: Shepard has choice between controlling and destroying Reapers. You save Earth from destruction either way, and humans live, but Earth is still devastated and buildings vaporized.

2,350 to 2,649 EMS: Shepard can destroy the Reapers. Earth is badly damaged but isn't destroyed completely

2,650 to 2,799 EMS: Shepard can destroy the Reapers and save Earth.

2,800 to 3,999 EMS: Shepard can create the Synergy between Organics and Reapers to save Earth and the Galaxy

4,000 to 4,999 EMS: Shepard can destroy Reapers. Earth survives. If you shot The Illusive Man on time and saved Anderson, Shepard Survived.

5,000 + EMS: Shepard can destroy Reapers. Earth survives. Shepard also survives regardless if you tried to save Anderson or not. (Perfect Ending)


Well that is 16 isn't it?

Modifié par Denvian, 22 mars 2012 - 02:03 .

[Rifneno]

Redbelle wrote...

Hey folks.

Fox news has reported that Bioware hinted at a potential 16 different endings.

Now that would have been more like it

Those wastes of oxygen also reported that ME1 was a "rape simulator."  Their actual words.  I wouldn't believe those ****s if they said the sun is hot.

[Turbotanden]

Henry Lawson: Using the addictive drug "red sand" to break down the will was inspired, but proved unreliable for general application. We've proven that adrenalin--and it's cross-species equivalents--is most effective and efficient.

The adrenalin levels of Shepard running towards that beam must've been quite high. And the adrenalin levels of the player as well... I remember thinking there was a lot of things not making sense, but I just kept going anyway.

[Spectre-61]

Rifneno wrote...



I also want to add that one of the core messages of ME 2&3 was that our fear of AIs going Skynet on us likely our basic fear of the unknown combined with our imaginations running wild.  Legion and EDI are both clear moral lessons to the audience.  If starkid's drivel is true then the writers did a complete 160 at speeds that would snap the wings off an F-22 Raptor.  I didn't buy the ending on that basis alone.

.

I think that Godchild watched too much Terminator.

[Redbelle]

Denvian wrote...

 

Redbelle wrote...

Hey folks.

Fox news has reported that Bioware hinted at a potential 16 different endings.

Now that would have been more like it

 



Endings Spoilers:

Collector's Base Destroyed

0 to 1,749 EMS: Your only choice is to destroy the Reapers. Earth is destroyed.

1,750 to 1,899 EMS: Shepard can choose to destroy the Reapers, or control them. If you destroy the Reapers, Earth is destroyed in the process as well. If you control the Reapers, Earth is devastated but not destroyed.

1,900 to 2,349 EMS: Shepard can choose between destroying and controlling Reapers. Both choices save earth, and humanity survives, however Earth's buildings still get vaporized.

2,350 to 2,649 EMS: Shepard can control Reapers, and save Earth

2,650 to 2,799 EMS: Shepard can destroy Reapers, and save Earth. Shepard Dies.

2,800 to 3,999 EMS: Shepard is able to create a link between Synthetics and Organics, and Earth and the Galaxy are saved

4,000 to 4,999 EMS: You can destroy the Reapers and Earth is saved. If you shot TIM on time and saved Anderson, Shepard breathes (Survives).

5,000+ EMS: You can destroy all Reapers. Earth saved as well. Shepard will breath, whether you attempted to save Anderson or not. (Perfect Ending)

Collector's Base Remained Intact

0 to 1,749 EMS: Shepard's only choice is to destroy the Reapers. Earth is destroyed.

1,750 to 2,049 EMS: Shepard can control the Reapers or destroy them. Destroying the Reapers also destroys Earth. Controlling the Reapers damages earth but does not destroy it.

2050 to 2,349 EMS: Shepard has choice between controlling and destroying Reapers. You save Earth from destruction either way, and humans live, but Earth is still devastated and buildings vaporized.

2,350 to 2,649 EMS: Shepard can destroy the Reapers. Earth is badly damaged but isn't destroyed completely

2,650 to 2,799 EMS: Shepard can destroy the Reapers and save Earth.

2,800 to 3,999 EMS: Shepard can create the Synergy between Organics and Reapers to save Earth and the Galaxy

4,000 to 4,999 EMS: Shepard can destroy Reapers. Earth survives. If you shot The Illusive Man on time and saved Anderson, Shepard Survived.

5,000 + EMS: Shepard can destroy Reapers. Earth survives. Shepard also survives regardless if you tried to save Anderson or not. (Perfect Ending)


Well that is 16 isn't it?

Yep, that's 16..... but it seems like everyone feels that there is only 3.

Glad you pointed this out btw

Modifié par Redbelle, 22 mars 2012 - 02:10 .

[RyanHensley2010]

You know, adding onto what Turbotanden said, It is actually commented on during ME3 that Shepard is extremely stressed. Well, stress and adrenaline go hand in hand in certain situations. A war for the fate of the galaxy? I feel that that qualifies.

[Redbelle]

Rifneno wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Hey folks.

Fox news has reported that Bioware hinted at a potential 16 different endings.

Now that would have been more like it

Those wastes of oxygen also reported that ME1 was a "rape simulator."  Their actual words.  I wouldn't believe those ****s if they said the sun is hot.

Yeesh, Fox. You bad network. Go stand in the corner til your sorry

[Stigweird85]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

bigstig wrote...

the arrival DLC is series cannon, if you didn't play it, the game assumes you did. Same with Liara as the shadow broker.

No. If you didn't play LOTSB, Shep doesn't even know Liara is the new Shadow broker.

True but the game still assumes she is the shadow broker, if doesn't just leave her as an information broker on illium which without the DLC is how her story ended.

[Denvian]

Redbelle wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Hey folks.

Fox news has reported that Bioware hinted at a potential 16 different endings.

Now that would have been more like it

Those wastes of oxygen also reported that ME1 was a "rape simulator."  Their actual words.  I wouldn't believe those ****s if they said the sun is hot.

Yeesh, Fox. You bad network. Go stand in the corner til your sorry

Really a lot of the new organization like the washington post and CNN already posted stuff like

"Fans whined and now they are getting a new ending... but did they really win?"  

I just think it is funny that they are writing about it at all considering they do not know much about the situation.  Truth be told I am not for a re-write which is why I am hoping IT is true or that they at least use it to go forward.

Modifié par Denvian, 22 mars 2012 - 02:11 .

[Gernbuster]

Rifneno wrote...

ZajoE38 wrote...

Synthetics and organics chaos theory is not valid. Because Geth and Quarians are cooperating and there is no sign that Protheans created AI that killed them, is it? I thing that Catalyst is not even controlling Reapers. I thing the Catalyst is Harbinger.

I also want to add that one of the core messages of ME 2&3 was that our fear of AIs going Skynet on us likely our basic fear of the unknown combined with our imaginations running wild.  Legion and EDI are both clear moral lessons to the audience.  If starkid's drivel is true then the writers did a complete 160 at speeds that would snap the wings off an F-22 Raptor.  I didn't buy the ending on that basis alone.

bigstig wrote...

It's shutting down the planets defence so that his kin can be with their God,  I missed the Leviathan of Dis part but I still stand by my point that not everyone who does the reapers bidding has to be indoctrinated.

I suppose there's also lunatics.  But no person in control of a sane mind sides with the Reapers.  Jellyfish or not.

Erethrian wrote...

That's why the first thing I said was:
....

Ahh.  Apologies, I'm skimming too much I guess.  This thread grows like a weed.

You're right. In fact that's why I think that even if you did arrival Shepard has not reaper tech. (Well, maybe implanted by cerberus in the Lazarus project, but I doubt it).

Why do you think that's unlikely?  I think it's extremely likely.  Consider: a) Miranda complains about having to work with a bunch of black boxes on the Lazarus Project.  Why would they need to hide the nature of tech from her?  It's not like she's going to judge TIM for a copyright violation and he's already trusted her with billions of credits worth of resources.   They make a specific point in the view logs at Cronos Station that Shepard was totally beyond any feasible means of saving.  His scientists told him it just can't be done regardless of resources or research.  Then they did it and never explained.  c) Cerberus already used Reaper tech in Paul Grayson, and would very shortly after use it to create EDI, followed by TIM himself getting Reaper augmentations.  d) People always try to debunk the eye thing by pointing out renegade Shep's eyes have a similar but far less pronounced pattern.  They're right, too.  And if IT is true then they need an event before ME3 which is mandatory (even Arrival isn't canon for some stupid reason) to use for his early exposure to indoctrination.  His time near Sovereign and the derelict Reaper were both very brief and indoctrination requires prolonged exposure.  But if he had some Reaper tech in his implants... perfect tie-in.

I am on your side ^^ i just want to correct some statements.
1: TIM alias Jack Harper found Reaper tech during first contact war and got partially reaperaugs by accident. Thats why he is trieng to get humantiy in the first place, he was the first one who knew the reaper will come and he would do everything to stop them. After the war he stopped a Turian general to use the reaper artefact to create some sort of husks, which he believed he could control. One more reason why he is only trusting humans. He made Cerberus and collected reaper artefacts to study them.
It may be not that difficult for him to find a way to partially control it. He resurected Shepard, which was impossible even in the future, but we know from another experiment he did AFTER that on Paul Greyson, that reaper tech can keep allive deadly wounded agents.
Edi was already created in ME1, as we all know, which means even át that time Cerberus did experiments on reaper tech.
^^ thats it basicly

[Redbelle]

Loved the expansion on Edi's origins

[Erethrian]

Rifneno wrote...

ZajoE38 wrote...

Synthetics and organics chaos theory is not valid. Because Geth and Quarians are cooperating and there is no sign that Protheans created AI that killed them, is it? I thing that Catalyst is not even controlling Reapers. I thing the Catalyst is Harbinger.

I also want to add that one of the core messages of ME 2&3 was that our fear of AIs going Skynet on us likely our basic fear of the unknown combined with our imaginations running wild.  Legion and EDI are both clear moral lessons to the audience.  If starkid's drivel is true then the writers did a complete 160 at speeds that would snap the wings off an F-22 Raptor.  I didn't buy the ending on that basis alone.

bigstig wrote...

It's shutting down the planets defence so that his kin can be with their God,  I missed the Leviathan of Dis part but I still stand by my point that not everyone who does the reapers bidding has to be indoctrinated.

I suppose there's also lunatics.  But no person in control of a sane mind sides with the Reapers.  Jellyfish or not.

Erethrian wrote...

That's why the first thing I said was:
....

Ahh.  Apologies, I'm skimming too much I guess.  This thread grows like a weed.

You're right. In fact that's why I think that even if you did arrival Shepard has not reaper tech. (Well, maybe implanted by cerberus in the Lazarus project, but I doubt it).

Why do you think that's unlikely?  I think it's extremely likely.  Consider: a) Miranda complains about having to work with a bunch of black boxes on the Lazarus Project.  Why would they need to hide the nature of tech from her?  It's not like she's going to judge TIM for a copyright violation and he's already trusted her with billions of credits worth of resources.   They make a specific point in the view logs at Cronos Station that Shepard was totally beyond any feasible means of saving.  His scientists told him it just can't be done regardless of resources or research.  Then they did it and never explained.  c) Cerberus already used Reaper tech in Paul Grayson, and would very shortly after use it to create EDI, followed by TIM himself getting Reaper augmentations.  d) People always try to debunk the eye thing by pointing out renegade Shep's eyes have a similar but far less pronounced pattern.  They're right, too.  And if IT is true then they need an event before ME3 which is mandatory (even Arrival isn't canon for some stupid reason) to use for his early exposure to indoctrination.  His time near Sovereign and the derelict Reaper were both very brief and indoctrination requires prolonged exposure.  But if he had some Reaper tech in his implants... perfect tie-in.

Hmm, I get the point, and maybe you're right. But then I can't understand how the prothean VI can't detect anything about Shepard. Anyway, another possibility we could add to the theory.

Also, if this is eventually true, someone said that an indoctrinated being can't beat indoctrination. But, i think it's possible if the reapers are completely destroyed (if the Crucible works as intended) so the "Reaper signal" dissappears. And also, not a fan of happy endings but I think this could avoid the death of Shepard (at least in one of the choices). And by this I mean there're lots of possibilities for a great outcome if IT is true.

Modifié par Erethrian, 22 mars 2012 - 02:13 .

[Denvian]

Hmm, I get the point, and maybe you're right. But then I can't understand how the prothean VI can't detect anything about Shepard. Anyway, another possibility we could add to the theory.

Also, if this is eventually true, someone said that an indoctrinated being can't beat indoctrination. But, i think it's possible if the reapers are completely destroyed (if the Crucible works as intended) so the "Reaper signal" dissappears. And also, not a fan of happy endings but I think this could avoid the death of Shepard (at least in one of the choices). And by this I mean there're lots of possibilities for a great outcome if IT is true.

Well he is not indoctrinated yet... The process has started but Shepard will not be totally indoctrinated until he makes the decision.  Saren said that they had to make the decision willfully so they have to trick you... which is what the hallucination is about.

Stuff has been naging at him but none of shepards decisions have been influenced yet

Modifié par Denvian, 22 mars 2012 - 02:18 .

[nyrocron]

Turbotanden wrote...

Henry Lawson: Using the addictive drug "red sand" to break down the will was inspired, but proved unreliable for general application. We've proven that adrenalin--and it's cross-species equivalents--is most effective and efficient.

The adrenalin levels of Shepard running towards that beam must've been quite high. And the adrenalin levels of the player as well... I remember thinking there was a lot of things not making sense, but I just kept going anyway.

That makes sense.

Modifié par nyrocron, 22 mars 2012 - 02:21 .

[harvestboygoobus]

Redbelle wrote...

Denvian wrote...


Endings Spoilers:

Collector's Base Destroyed

0 to 1,749 EMS: Your only choice is to destroy the Reapers. Earth is destroyed.

1,750 to 1,899 EMS: Shepard can choose to destroy the Reapers, or control them. If you destroy the Reapers, Earth is destroyed in the process as well. If you control the Reapers, Earth is devastated but not destroyed.

1,900 to 2,349 EMS: Shepard can choose between destroying and controlling Reapers. Both choices save earth, and humanity survives, however Earth's buildings still get vaporized.

2,350 to 2,649 EMS: Shepard can control Reapers, and save Earth

2,650 to 2,799 EMS: Shepard can destroy Reapers, and save Earth. Shepard Dies.

2,800 to 3,999 EMS: Shepard is able to create a link between Synthetics and Organics, and Earth and the Galaxy are saved

4,000 to 4,999 EMS: You can destroy the Reapers and Earth is saved. If you shot TIM on time and saved Anderson, Shepard breathes (Survives).

5,000+ EMS: You can destroy all Reapers. Earth saved as well. Shepard will breath, whether you attempted to save Anderson or not. (Perfect Ending)

Collector's Base Remained Intact

0 to 1,749 EMS: Shepard's only choice is to destroy the Reapers. Earth is destroyed.

1,750 to 2,049 EMS: Shepard can control the Reapers or destroy them. Destroying the Reapers also destroys Earth. Controlling the Reapers damages earth but does not destroy it.

2050 to 2,349 EMS: Shepard has choice between controlling and destroying Reapers. You save Earth from destruction either way, and humans live, but Earth is still devastated and buildings vaporized.

2,350 to 2,649 EMS: Shepard can destroy the Reapers. Earth is badly damaged but isn't destroyed completely

2,650 to 2,799 EMS: Shepard can destroy the Reapers and save Earth.

2,800 to 3,999 EMS: Shepard can create the Synergy between Organics and Reapers to save Earth and the Galaxy

4,000 to 4,999 EMS: Shepard can destroy Reapers. Earth survives. If you shot The Illusive Man on time and saved Anderson, Shepard Survived.

5,000 + EMS: Shepard can destroy Reapers. Earth survives. Shepard also survives regardless if you tried to save Anderson or not. (Perfect Ending)


Well that is 16 isn't it?

Yep, that's 16..... but it seems like everyone feels that there is only 3.

Glad you pointed this out btw

Actually, to clarify, that is not 16 endings in any fashion. If you read the end results of the "endings", you will see that they are all the same options. To be clear, there are six total endings. There are three "destroy" endings (one where Earth is completely saved, one where buildings are razed, but the population survives, and one where Earth is completely fried by the Crucible), two "control" endings (Earth partially destroyed and not destroyed), and one "synthesis" ending.

The ME2 choice and the EMS simply affects which of those endings you have available to you. That's where people get 16 endings--because your final ME2 choice affects (in a very minor way) how much EMS you need, primarily for the synthesis and control endings. But by no means are there 16 endings. There are six total, which are based off of three main endings with very minor distinctions (either Earth is saved, partially razed, or completely destroyed) which amounts to about one second of difference between the cutscenes. ...And even these three endings are all pretty much the same, as, for the most part, with the exception of whether the Reapers die or lift off, the only difference is the color of the explosion.

[Turbotanden]

Redbelle wrote...

Denvian wrote...

 

Redbelle wrote...

Hey folks.

Fox news has reported that Bioware hinted at a potential 16 different endings.

Now that would have been more like it

 



Endings Spoilers:

Collector's Base Destroyed

0 to 1,749 EMS: Your only choice is to destroy the Reapers. Earth is destroyed.

1,750 to 1,899 EMS: Shepard can choose to destroy the Reapers, or control them. If you destroy the Reapers, Earth is destroyed in the process as well. If you control the Reapers, Earth is devastated but not destroyed.

1,900 to 2,349 EMS: Shepard can choose between destroying and controlling Reapers. Both choices save earth, and humanity survives, however Earth's buildings still get vaporized.

2,350 to 2,649 EMS: Shepard can control Reapers, and save Earth

2,650 to 2,799 EMS: Shepard can destroy Reapers, and save Earth. Shepard Dies.

2,800 to 3,999 EMS: Shepard is able to create a link between Synthetics and Organics, and Earth and the Galaxy are saved

4,000 to 4,999 EMS: You can destroy the Reapers and Earth is saved. If you shot TIM on time and saved Anderson, Shepard breathes (Survives).

5,000+ EMS: You can destroy all Reapers. Earth saved as well. Shepard will breath, whether you attempted to save Anderson or not. (Perfect Ending)

Collector's Base Remained Intact

0 to 1,749 EMS: Shepard's only choice is to destroy the Reapers. Earth is destroyed.

1,750 to 2,049 EMS: Shepard can control the Reapers or destroy them. Destroying the Reapers also destroys Earth. Controlling the Reapers damages earth but does not destroy it.

2050 to 2,349 EMS: Shepard has choice between controlling and destroying Reapers. You save Earth from destruction either way, and humans live, but Earth is still devastated and buildings vaporized.

2,350 to 2,649 EMS: Shepard can destroy the Reapers. Earth is badly damaged but isn't destroyed completely

2,650 to 2,799 EMS: Shepard can destroy the Reapers and save Earth.

2,800 to 3,999 EMS: Shepard can create the Synergy between Organics and Reapers to save Earth and the Galaxy

4,000 to 4,999 EMS: Shepard can destroy Reapers. Earth survives. If you shot The Illusive Man on time and saved Anderson, Shepard Survived.

5,000 + EMS: Shepard can destroy Reapers. Earth survives. Shepard also survives regardless if you tried to save Anderson or not. (Perfect Ending)


Well that is 16 isn't it?

Yep, that's 16..... but it seems like everyone feels that there is only 3.

Glad you pointed this out btw

With the best intentions I can maybe make out 8:
Destroy: Earth destroyed.
Destroy: Earth saved but not buildings???
Destroy: Earth saved.
Destroy: Earth saved. Shepard breath.
Control: Earth devastated.
Control: Earth saved but not buildings???
Control: Earth saved.
Synthesis: Earth saved.

[Denvian]

 

Turbotanden wrote...


With the best intentions I can maybe make out 8:
Destroy: Earth destroyed.
Destroy: Earth saved but not buildings???
Destroy: Earth saved.
Destroy: Earth saved. Shepard breath.
Control: Earth devastated.
Control: Earth saved but not buildings???
Control: Earth saved.
Synthesis: Earth saved.

 

I am not defending the 16 endings... that is just where I think they got the number

Modifié par Denvian, 22 mars 2012 - 02:30 .

[T16skyhopp]

Yeah, the ending count is nuts. People are mad that we got "A, B and C" when they said we wouldn't get "A,B and C." In reality it's worse and we got "1a, 1b, and 1c"

[Catreina-JTV]

Redbelle wrote...

Denvian wrote...

 

Redbelle wrote...

Hey folks.

Fox news has reported that Bioware hinted at a potential 16 different endings.

Now that would have been more like it

 



Endings Spoilers:

Collector's Base Destroyed

0 to 1,749 EMS: Your only choice is to destroy the Reapers. Earth is destroyed.

1,750 to 1,899 EMS: Shepard can choose to destroy the Reapers, or control them. If you destroy the Reapers, Earth is destroyed in the process as well. If you control the Reapers, Earth is devastated but not destroyed.

1,900 to 2,349 EMS: Shepard can choose between destroying and controlling Reapers. Both choices save earth, and humanity survives, however Earth's buildings still get vaporized.

2,350 to 2,649 EMS: Shepard can control Reapers, and save Earth

2,650 to 2,799 EMS: Shepard can destroy Reapers, and save Earth. Shepard Dies.

2,800 to 3,999 EMS: Shepard is able to create a link between Synthetics and Organics, and Earth and the Galaxy are saved

4,000 to 4,999 EMS: You can destroy the Reapers and Earth is saved. If you shot TIM on time and saved Anderson, Shepard breathes (Survives).

5,000+ EMS: You can destroy all Reapers. Earth saved as well. Shepard will breath, whether you attempted to save Anderson or not. (Perfect Ending)

Collector's Base Remained Intact

0 to 1,749 EMS: Shepard's only choice is to destroy the Reapers. Earth is destroyed.

1,750 to 2,049 EMS: Shepard can control the Reapers or destroy them. Destroying the Reapers also destroys Earth. Controlling the Reapers damages earth but does not destroy it.

2050 to 2,349 EMS: Shepard has choice between controlling and destroying Reapers. You save Earth from destruction either way, and humans live, but Earth is still devastated and buildings vaporized.

2,350 to 2,649 EMS: Shepard can destroy the Reapers. Earth is badly damaged but isn't destroyed completely

2,650 to 2,799 EMS: Shepard can destroy the Reapers and save Earth.

2,800 to 3,999 EMS: Shepard can create the Synergy between Organics and Reapers to save Earth and the Galaxy

4,000 to 4,999 EMS: Shepard can destroy Reapers. Earth survives. If you shot The Illusive Man on time and saved Anderson, Shepard Survived.

5,000 + EMS: Shepard can destroy Reapers. Earth survives. Shepard also survives regardless if you tried to save Anderson or not. (Perfect Ending)


Well that is 16 isn't it?

Yep, that's 16..... but it seems like everyone feels that there is only 3.

Glad you pointed this out btw

And so glad people are pointing out that this is 16 DIFFERENT endings - I see quite a bit less than 16 DIFFERENT endings (point of fact, the bottom ending when having saved and not saved the collectors base are the SAME)

[Redbelle]

EMS ratings seemed pretty important at the time but after getting to the end on first play through the need for high EMS just seemed pointless. I can't see how effective military strength translates into Earth survives when the catalyst beam is engaged.

Also, maybe it was my imagination but for one destroy scene I thought I saw the beam/pulse destroy allied ships above Earth. They could have been destroyed hulks I guess but the idea of collecting so many ships in EMS and then running them into a scenario that ends with those ships being blown up is a little self defeating...... (there's an understatement). Can anyone confirm?

[Flapperrr]

I will give my dialog with one supporter of control on other resource.
"... me to put to the place of Shepard at all does not cost - I and the first part did not endure. Therefore my personal judgement has very doubtful weight here."...

My response:
"And here it is already very interesting. If to speak about physics, yes, for the such special trainings, years or decades in army etc. are necessary.
But the moral choice is done by the player and in personal judgement about that occurs in ME. I make a choice on the basis of the personal judgement if you read, what your personal judgement is doubtful, there is a question who controls your character, and respectively and you? Here it also is a befuddling - loss of the personality and it is healthy that BioWare could turn such with players, in the most evident form. And still is frightens, the fact of that such it is possible and so easy."

The person doubts the personal judgement, in fact - refuses him. Here a bright example of a befuddling not in game, and in life.

Modifié par Flapperrr, 22 mars 2012 - 03:16 .