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#21226
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Also I support the ID theory too.

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Oh and if nobody has menchand it yet in Mass Effect 1 sovereign said that each Reaper was Independent and took orders from know one but themselves.

So what the Catalyst says is nonsense that he controls the Reapers.

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leonia42 wrote...

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I had hoped that the card table/ rec room would be incorperated in the ending. The reapers are gone, the galaxy is saved, and finally our heroes can sit back and relax. I wanted that lounge filled with all your old friends. Garrus, Shepard, and Wrex at the poker table in a stare down, Joker and Edi hanging out on the sofa, Tali gettng her eeeermergency induction port on, Ash standing behind Shep as he places his bet and so on. Just a warm moment with all the people whom you have met and loved over the years. Then a gentle fade to black.


Was hoping for the same or maybe a moment like this before the final, final mission (so long as it didn't replace the "last chance to be with your LI" scene).

Didn't Star Trek the next generation end with them playing poker or something? 

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https://twitter.com/...233534146781186 Looks like good news, hopefully it will give us what we need.

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Bioware expect us to say goodby to the story and it's Characters, yet we can not do so for the ending took that away when you see the Normandy crash land on a planet like earth in every choice at the end you make.For me and to the fans it was like a slap to the face because to see the characters you come to love and respect just leave the battle on earth when they all new this was it ,and even said they were with Shepard to the end just doesn't fit the ending at all.Especially Javik who is the last person that I would see running away from a fight with the Reapers when he even said he wanted revenge for the deaths of his squad and his people and would die than leave Commander Shepard like he did with his squad a long time ago.

With that being said it was reviled that if the mass relays were to blow up it would kill everything with in the solar system it was in.So you mean to tell us that the relays magically managed to suppress the explosion by using the beam of light Shepard created in order to reverse the wipe out explosion with the crucibles/citadel energy instead.All I can say is that Bioware has at least 2 months or less to prepare for a new DLC for the ending that can change the ending with Indoctrination Theory or continue filing the plot holes up.Note the most of fans wont be happy with a filler in the plot hole dynamic DLC.Look I really don't care what Bioware does now since they mest up the Dragon Age Origins plot Line When you created Dragon Age 2,and not to include they messed up inThe Knights of the Old Republic series when you left out everyone from the first knights of the old Republic except Carter.And know you create The Old Republic that is set thousands of years after the Knight of The Old Republic events that supossibly follows after Revan goes into hiding only to save the galaxy from a deep dark secret that only He,or she learned about.That's what bothers me the most and I think some of the fans were made about that to.

The Mass effect 3 ending ber in mind took that direction not fully completing the game yet, but to a new opening of new adventures. But I think the Mass Effect fans would rather have their Shepard live or die than rather have to witness their squad living in paradise when they left you and evreyone to die. Yet in all the ME3 endings you supposible die either way.Unless you chose the Destroy option were if you have 5000 EMS or higher then you see Shepard have a quick draw of breath.Mabye Bioware left it there on purpose or you just forgot about removing it.Regardless this gives fans hope that Shepard either dream t all of that or he was being Indoctrinated but broke free when he or she Destroyed the right Panel choice.Plus if you pay close attention when Shepard is firing the pistol you can see Shepard's will is returning to him or her by remembering all the people he or she caress about and that he or she is drawing their strengths to break the Reapers hold of Shepard. So you see Bioware can still salvage the ending. All they have to do is either go IDT or fix the endigs another way just by adding a few calibrations to the ending after the Indoctrination test with the destroy option,and what they can do for control is that you have Shepard make the choice of killing his friends/hers or has enof strength/willpower to pull the trigger to his or herself.And maybe for Syntheses you have Commander Shepard influence everyone that is fighting the Reapers to stand down and he or she says that the reapers are on our side now. Then the Reapers start to kill everyone in front of Shepard saying "if only you have destroyed us you friends would not have had to die"and Shepard collapses and slowly begins do die while seeing the faces of everyone he or she cares about. and ends by showing Shepard as a husk.Forgive me if my spelling and word choice is wrong.
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RoyalGambit wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

JTP117 wrote...

I had hoped that the card table/ rec room would be incorperated in the ending. The reapers are gone, the galaxy is saved, and finally our heroes can sit back and relax. I wanted that lounge filled with all your old friends. Garrus, Shepard, and Wrex at the poker table in a stare down, Joker and Edi hanging out on the sofa, Tali gettng her eeeermergency induction port on, Ash standing behind Shep as he places his bet and so on. Just a warm moment with all the people whom you have met and loved over the years. Then a gentle fade to black.


Was hoping for the same or maybe a moment like this before the final, final mission (so long as it didn't replace the "last chance to be with your LI" scene).

Didn't Star Trek the next generation end with them playing poker or something? 


I'd have hated to the be the guy reading Picards last mission report of the series.

What the guy says he's stopped the end of the universe by travelling to different points in time and now says no one else can remember what happened because it's not happened yet and now never will?

What does he want? A medal?

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masster blaster, you need to use punctation and paragrafs.

It would make it easier to read.

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Thank you for creating my bad writing monrapias.

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monrapias wrote...

https://twitter.com/...233534146781186 Looks like good news, hopefully it will give us what we need.


Thanks for posting that!  

Poeple have been pointing to the articles that say that blizzard  Bioware is changing the ending for a while now.  Everytime they do I post that quote from twitter but I can't be here 24/7

The news blogs are just reading too much into biowares statements and assuming becuase they are working on "New Content" that they must be changing the ending/

I watch a pennt arcade video with a guy basically  blasting Bioware for giving into fans and ruining the industry when really he knew very little about the masseffect series and should just shut up because he does not know what he is talking about.

I have faith that bioware will deliver... even without us ragging them about the end.... of course I am a clear minority it seems.

Update- WTF Blizzard on my mind... guess they both start with b lol

Modifié par Denvian, 24 mars 2012 - 09:34 .


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masster blaster wrote...

Thank you for creating my bad writing monrapias.

  Just trying to help.

I'm not trying to be an ass or anything.

Anyway, It's good news that Mass Effect tweeted that they will come out with a dlc that is suppose to explain the ending.

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If they abandon the IT, i think that no other ending will be so brilliant

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Cucobr wrote...

If they abandon the IT, i think that no other ending will be so brilliant


IT Theory.

The voices and headache's are totally worth it.

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It's like I said on page 849 Bioware is doing what all the other game companies are doing. Just continuing on a story that should end but wants to continue to make more money out of it till there is no story enveloped in the game any more.

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What if there was a good reaper. If the reapers do what they want, ala Sovereign, what if we had rebel reapers.

Modifié par UrgentArchengel, 24 mars 2012 - 09:54 .


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And if you do not believe me then why is there a lot of street fighters, assassin creeds,Halos,Resident evils, and so many more games that have been around for 20 or more years that have been continuing on even after the story line and plot has ended. Now granted their are a few games that have interesting plots, but don't you notice that the campaigns have been getting shorter and the multiplayer online thing is what they relay focus on now.Just saying.

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Normandy crash site vs. Zaeed loyalty mission: http://i.imgur.com/Ls8Qh.jpg
(Pic found on reddit)

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nyrocron wrote...

Normandy crash site vs. Zaeed loyalty mission: http://i.imgur.com/Ls8Qh.jpg
(Pic found on reddit)


Hey that is nifty

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It looks like the same planet that you went on Zaeed's loyalty mission.

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nyrocron wrote...

Normandy crash site vs. Zaeed loyalty mission: http://i.imgur.com/Ls8Qh.jpg
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only jungles... nothing more...

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did you look at the background more closely Cucobr.

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masster blaster wrote...

And if you do not believe me then why is there a lot of street fighters, assassin creeds,Halos,Resident evils, and so many more games that have been around for 20 or more years that have been continuing on even after the story line and plot has ended. Now granted their are a few games that have interesting plots, but don't you notice that the campaigns have been getting shorter and the multiplayer online thing is what they relay focus on now.Just saying.


Agreed. Mass Effect began life as a great story with combat thrown in. The multiplayer is good but it's no Team Fortress. Jumping a long term multiplayer off the back of ME3 may give ME universe more exposure in the long run but it's just the combat mechanics which is less interesting than preventing a galatic apocalypse through guns and diplomacy.

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Cucobr wrote...

If they abandon the IT, i think that no other ending will be so brilliant


Yup!  Seconded.

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masster blaster wrote...

did you look at the background more closely Cucobr.


yep... jungles...

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Cucobr wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

did you look at the background more closely Cucobr.


yep... jungles...


He meant look at the double planet in the sky, they look the same.  The plant life is simular yes but then so is the double planet and star.  Might be intentional... would not be suprised but who knows.

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Denvian wrote...

Cucobr wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

did you look at the background more closely Cucobr.


yep... jungles...


He meant look at the double planet in the sky, they look the same.  The plant life is simular yes but then so is the double planet and star.  Might be intentional... would not be suprised but who knows.


naaa,,,, it's too common in Mass Effect series..