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[Rainond]

Denvian wrote...

nyrocron wrote...

Might help for some discussion: The texture used for the bodies after the beam hit: http://imgur.com/W0PTO

/edit: Using umodel: http://www.gildor.or...ts/umodel#files
Apparently there is also a GUI, don't know where to get it.

/edit2: I don't know where that dreamlight thing is used, just found the naming interesting as I can't really imagine a use in the normal dreams. But could also be used there, I don't know.

The same texture is used for the piles of bodies in th citadel after you are beamed up... I turned up the brightness and found that out.  

Uber creepy

agree, probably they want us to know how they look after you let one of them die in me1

[Rainond]

Either.Ardrey wrote...

Rainond wrote...

probably sheppard die, and vega is the one in the last video, so that make vega the next main character and you all gonna hate him =D

We've seen this line of thought happen before. BTW, if you play as a female Shepard (one P), the final video is of a female N7 soldier, so it is definitely not Vega. Sorry.

i know, just trying to make someone laugh over here

[Lakeshow1986]

Bailey describing keeper tunnels as an ant farm, not a simple one in one out.

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=JLAs82P-_3Y

[Hunter_Wolf]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

The fans who dont' want to get on board with this theory just don't get it or just don't want to like BioWare anymore period.

Yes and no. Unfortunately the devs haven't really given much of any hints of IT being on the right track concerning the endings but I would bet my savings that the dreams Shepards endures on the Normandy is indoctrination slowly seeping into his mind. The voices you hear are instead, unlike what the Rachni Queen was saying, that of hope and confidence which are likely the proponent for Shepard's resistance - people, friends and allies, are depending on him. The Rachni didn't have this luxury. 

[lex0r11]

Rainond wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

Rainond wrote...

probably sheppard die, and vega is the one in the last video, so that make vega the next main character and you all gonna hate him =D

We've seen this line of thought happen before. BTW, if you play as a female Shepard (one P), the final video is of a female N7 soldier, so it is definitely not Vega. Sorry.

i know, just trying to make someone laugh over here

And we all know what Femshep does to Vega.

[Denvian]

Either.Ardrey wrote...

Rainond wrote...

probably sheppard die, and vega is the one in the last video, so that make vega the next main character and you all gonna hate him =D

We've seen this line of thought happen before. BTW, if you play as a female Shepard (one P), the final video is of a female N7 soldier, so it is definitely not Vega. Sorry.

Female gasp of air as well... I laughed

Modifié par Denvian, 24 mars 2012 - 06:57 .

[IronSabbath88]

LOL Femshep kicks Vega's ass? That's priceless.

That kind of reminds me of that one Spongebob episode, Fry Cook Games where Patrick is facing Spongebob and he erases his name to say just "Rick"

MY NAME'S... NOT... RIIIIIIIICK!

*rage*

Modifié par IronSabbath88, 24 mars 2012 - 06:57 .

[thehomeworld]

lex0r11 wrote...

Rainond wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

Rainond wrote...

probably sheppard die, and vega is the one in the last video, so that make vega the next main character and you all gonna hate him =D

We've seen this line of thought happen before. BTW, if you play as a female Shepard (one P), the final video is of a female N7 soldier, so it is definitely not Vega. Sorry.

i know, just trying to make someone laugh over here

And we all know what Femshep does to Vega.

Yeah him calling her lola was insulting if I could've I would've kicked him off the ship.

Modifié par thehomeworld, 24 mars 2012 - 06:58 .

[JTP117]

SanoBub wrote...

Thomas Shepard wrote...

I have watched for the past week and a half as my favourite game developer's name has been dragged through the mud. The writers of the most amazing RPGs ever made have been accused of being sell outs, inept and even talentless hacks. This was done by a lot of haters who probably didn't like the ending of Christopher Nolan's Inception because it was also "too confusing". Well, I am tired of this endless desire of philistines from all around the world, to spit on works that they don't comprehend, and try to bring us all down into the same intellectual swamp as them.

To me there is absolutely no doubt that ME3's endings are a well thought out and well constructed literary device. This has been agreed upon by the people who support the Indoctrination Theory.

In case you are still not familiar with the theory, or need to look at a cohesive list of evidence:



I do think that there are some tiny differences in the way that they interpret certain details, but I tend to agree with Angry Joe's interpretation of those.

As for my contribution to the stack of evidence that the endings are not real, I have spent the last half hour or so sifting through the game data with a program called umodel that can basically view any files created with the unreal engine. While not compatible with the ME files and unable to show their content it still manages to open the .pcc files and show the list of assets that they contain.

So I went into the Mass Effect 3BIOGameCookedPCConsole folder and started with the file called BioA_End003_Planet.pcc. Judging by the names of the assets the file is the level file for the scene where the Normandy has been shipwrecked onto the jungle planet. For those of you who still doubt that the scene is a dream that Shepard has, I would like to draw your attention to the following asset names:

Dream_FoliageMove_MM, Dream_Foliage_MAT_INST_01, Dream_Plant03, Dream_FoliageSheet_Diff, DreamTree01_DiffDreamTree01_Diff, DreamTree01_NormDreamTree01_Diff.

I think they are pretty self-explanatory. I will glance over the other level files when I have more time on my hands.

And seriously, if you still doubt BioWare are giving their very best to deliver to their fans the best possible story, then shame on you. Where do you get the nerve?

PS This is unrelated, but I have also seen a lot of this "selling out" drivel regarding BioWare. Quick question: Do you think that amazing writers, voice actors like Martin Sheen, Yvonne Strahovski, and many others, and some of the most talented game designers in the world come cheep?

Wow! This is an amazing find! Thank you!
And I agree on everything you said!

No kidding, great work! And I agree, we try to keep this thread pretty tame towards the Dev's but some people choose emotion over thought process, and shame on them, but as long as there are loyal fans like you to defend them, Bioware will live on.

[lex0r11]

Hunter_Wolf wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

The fans who dont' want to get on board with this theory just don't get it or just don't want to like BioWare anymore period.

Yes and no. Unfortunately the devs haven't really given much of any hints of IT being on the right track concerning the endings but I would bet my savings that the dreams Shepards endures on the Normandy is indoctrination slowly seeping into his mind. The voices you hear are instead, unlike what the Rachni Queen was saying, that of hope and confidence which are likely the proponent for Shepard's resistance - people, friends and allies, are depending on him. The Rachni didn't have this luxury. 

Agree.

We are all in the same boat. The anger is understandable, but people handle it differently.
I think everyone wants a different/new endgame+epilogue.

[IronSabbath88]

Fair enough. I just don't like how some people are acting.

[TrveOmegaSlayer]

lex0r11 wrote...

TrveOmegaSlayer wrote...

Another thing.
Just before entering the beam.
There's Coats, he seems alive but ignores Shep

Where is he? Or do you mean over the radio?

vid,
 
around 8:30
the man before the cover from which the Marauder comes out

[Renoscott]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Fair enough. I just don't like how some people are acting.

people will always act is a idiot way to a franchies. People acted like Halo: Reach ruined the sires by adding armor effects.

[Denvian]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Fair enough. I just don't like how some people are acting.

It is sad really.  Considering the great moments that can be had in Mass Effect 3 all discussion is pretty much focused on, "Do you like the ending? I hated the ending".

[lex0r11]

thehomeworld wrote...

Yeah him calling her lola was insulting if I could've I would've kicked him off the ship.

I don't know how it played out as Femshep.

But with Broshep it was 'Loco', meaning crazy or insane.
Shep did the most wicked things and i thought it was his way of showing respect.

[nyrocron]

I do now think that thing in the shep_alive scene is definitely a cable. And there are some on the Citadel: http://imgur.com/cO2aX

[Denvian]

TrveOmegaSlayer wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

TrveOmegaSlayer wrote...

Another thing.
Just before entering the beam.
There's Coats, he seems alive but ignores Shep

Where is he? Or do you mean over the radio?

vid,
 
around 8:30
the man before the cover from which the Marauder comes out

I think he is too busy dying if that is indeed Coats

[Renoscott]

Denvian wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Fair enough. I just don't like how some people are acting.

It is sad really.  Considering the great moments that can be had in Mass Effect 3 all discussion is pretty much focused on, "Do you like the ending? I hated the ending".

Its mainly because people cant wrape there heads around the endings true intenchons or it one of two things. "I dont want to use my imagination! thats why I have games!" or "I don't what to do resurch for the end! I was handed incomplet **** and I know the DLC will be paid even though its not finished."

[lex0r11]

Denvian wrote...

TrveOmegaSlayer wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

TrveOmegaSlayer wrote...

Another thing.
Just before entering the beam.
There's Coats, he seems alive but ignores Shep

Where is he? Or do you mean over the radio?

vid,
 
around 8:30
the man before the cover from which the Marauder comes out

I think he is too busy dying if that is indeed Coats

Coats was talking over the radio, the chances of him being the soldier shown in that video are very small.

[IronSabbath88]

nyrocron wrote...

I do now think that thing in the shep_alive scene is definitely a cable. And there are some on the Citadel: http://imgur.com/cO2aX

Doesn't the rebar look like that too though?

I dunno, during the ending it looks like it's a pole, not a cable, if it was a cable, I think you'd see it wavering around, not standing straight up like that.

[noobcannon]

Rainond wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

Rainond wrote...

probably sheppard die, and vega is the one in the last video, so that make vega the next main character and you all gonna hate him =D

We've seen this line of thought happen before. BTW, if you play as a female Shepard (one P), the final video is of a female N7 soldier, so it is definitely not Vega. Sorry.

i know, just trying to make someone laugh over here

the thing that makes  me laugh is when someone starts a new thread:

"PROOF indoc theory isn't real". then they say it's because the VI didn't detect shepard was indoctrinated
or
"twitter says they arent changing the ending, they're just clarifying it so indoc theory is over."

all i can do is laugh and facepalm every time and try not to troll too hard.

Modifié par noobcannon, 24 mars 2012 - 07:12 .

[Thomas Shepard]

Btw this is an export of the Dream_FoliageSheet_Diff texture for anyone who doubts that it is the texture used where the Normandy crash site: http://img13.imagesh...rtedtexture.png

I am currently looking for something that will give away the choice scene

[noobcannon]

Thomas Shepard wrote...

Btw this is an export of the Dream_FoliageSheet_Diff texture for anyone who doubts that it is the texture used where the Normandy crash site: http://img13.imagesh...rtedtexture.png

I am currently looking for something that will give away the choice scene

keep up the good work

[nyrocron]

Thomas Shepard wrote...

Btw this is an export of the Dream_FoliageSheet_Diff texture for anyone who doubts that it is the texture used where the Normandy crash site: http://img13.imagesh...rtedtexture.png

I am currently looking for something that will give away the choice scene

Okay, calling this texture "dream" is really some nice evidence.

[Denvian]

noobcannon wrote...

Rainond wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

Rainond wrote...

probably sheppard die, and vega is the one in the last video, so that make vega the next main character and you all gonna hate him =D

We've seen this line of thought happen before. BTW, if you play as a female Shepard (one P), the final video is of a female N7 soldier, so it is definitely not Vega. Sorry.

i know, just trying to make someone laugh over here

the thing that makes  me laugh is when someone starts a new thread:

"PROOF indoc theory isn't real". then they say it's because the VI didn't detect shepard was indoctrinated
or
"twitter says they arent changing the ending, they're just clarifying it so indoc theory is over."

all i can do is laugh and facepalm every time and try not to troll too hard.

 


And there are a lot of threads that pop up like that.... I use to go and argue with them but it is like trying to argue with someone about Religion.