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[Either.Ardrey]

Thomas Shepard wrote...

Btw this is an export of the Dream_FoliageSheet_Diff texture for anyone who doubts that it is the texture used where the Normandy crash site: http://img13.imagesh...rtedtexture.png

I am currently looking for something that will give away the choice scene

To add emphasis

[Blackwolf0519]

Anybody know why pictures & links won't work when I post them?

Modifié par Blackwolf0519, 24 mars 2012 - 07:22 .

[lex0r11]

Renoscott wrote...

Denvian wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Fair enough. I just don't like how some people are acting.

It is sad really.  Considering the great moments that can be had in Mass Effect 3 all discussion is pretty much focused on, "Do you like the ending? I hated the ending".

Its mainly because people cant wrape there heads around the endings true intenchons or it one of two things. "I dont want to use my imagination! thats why I have games!" or "I don't what to do resurch for the end! I was handed incomplet **** and I know the DLC will be paid even though its not finished."

Guys, i'm a supporter of the Indoc Theory.

But it is still a theory and not a fact until Bioware comes out with a statement without any PR talk. People don't have to believe in this thread and we should not force it into their heads. They are allowed to hate the endings and not look for any explanataion other than 'the ending was bad'. It's not wrong.

At the end of the day we all want something changed with the endgame. We shouldn't create two fronts, if in fact we all want the same.

Modifié par lex0r11, 24 mars 2012 - 07:20 .

[nyrocron]

 I think this could match some of the rubble Shep lies in in the _alive scene: 
http://imgur.com/bVeLv
That would support the theory that Shep is on Citadel or at least has parts of it around him.

(Just posting what I find and playin' devils advocate here, I hope for arguments to counter that)

[noobcannon]

Denvian wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

the thing that makes  me laugh is when someone starts a new thread:

"PROOF indoc theory isn't real". then they say it's because the VI didn't detect shepard was indoctrinated
or
"twitter says they arent changing the ending, they're just clarifying it so indoc theory is over."

all i can do is laugh and facepalm every time and try not to troll too hard.

 

And there are a lot of threads that pop up like that.... I use to go and argue with them but it is like trying to argue with someone about Religion.

the best ones are people trying to defend the synthesis ending. you know, the one where leaves have circuits and joker turns into a half robot and can now have cyborg babies with EDI. yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah.

[SanoBub]

nyrocron wrote...

Thomas Shepard wrote...

Btw this is an export of the Dream_FoliageSheet_Diff texture for anyone who doubts that it is the texture used where the Normandy crash site: http://img13.imagesh...rtedtexture.png

I am currently looking for something that will give away the choice scene

Okay, calling this texture "dream" is really some nice evidence.

Indeed!

[Denvian]

lex0r11 wrote...

Renoscott wrote...

Denvian wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Fair enough. I just don't like how some people are acting.

It is sad really.  Considering the great moments that can be had in Mass Effect 3 all discussion is pretty much focused on, "Do you like the ending? I hated the ending".

Its mainly because people cant wrape there heads around the endings true intenchons or it one of two things. "I dont want to use my imagination! thats why I have games!" or "I don't what to do resurch for the end! I was handed incomplet **** and I know the DLC will be paid even though its not finished."

Guys, i'm a supporter of the Indoc Theory.

But it is still a theory and not a fact until Bioware comes out with a statement without any PR talk. People don't have to believe in this thread and we shbould not force it into their heads. They are allowed to hate the endings and not look for any explanataion other than 'the ending was bad'. It's not wrong.

At the end of the daym we all want something changed with the endgame. We shouldn't create two fronts, if in fact we all want the same.

I was talking about great moments with the rest of the game but I get your point.

Personally I am a bit in the camp that I do not want bioware to do anything they originally didn't intent  but I think I am in the minority.  

[lex0r11]

Blackwolf0519 wrote...
lol just saw this & had to share! 

You are probably not allowed to post pictures yet, because your registration was recently.

Just post or send me the adress and i will link it here.

Modifié par lex0r11, 24 mars 2012 - 07:21 .

[noobcannon]

nyrocron wrote...

 I think this could match some of the rubble Shep lies in in the _alive scene: 
http://imgur.com/bVeLv
That would support the theory that Shep is on Citadel or at least has parts of it around him.

(Just posting what I find and playin' devils advocate here, I hope for arguments to counter that)

except the shep_alive scene i think is pre rendered. that would explain why there is regular n7 armor instead of whatever you were wearing. can anyone confirm this that is digging around?

[Either.Ardrey]

Denvian wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

Rainond wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

Rainond wrote...

 

 

And there are a lot of threads that pop up like that.... I use to go and argue with them but it is like trying to argue with someone about Religion.

 
That's pretty much what it's become for both sides. Religion. I'm sorely tempted to compare this debate to the arguments between Jews and Christians (Jesus + New Testament = Indoc as new addition to main story/Torah) or between Muslims and Christians (Indoc = Bioware is like Jesus, son of God; anti-Indoc = Bioware is just a great Prophet, but a regular dude). Either way it's pretty nonsensical. Like 

Modifié par Either.Ardrey, 24 mars 2012 - 07:23 .

[Apjabuse]

TrveOmegaSlayer wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

TrveOmegaSlayer wrote...

Another thing.
Just before entering the beam.
There's Coats, he seems alive but ignores Shep

Where is he? Or do you mean over the radio?

vid,
 
around 8:30
the man before the cover from which the Marauder comes out

But, looks like EDI is bleeding, am i missing something? Were Bioware just sloppy with this scene? Is it all part of the thisisadreamthing?

[nyrocron]

noobcannon wrote...

nyrocron wrote...

 I think this could match some of the rubble Shep lies in in the _alive scene: 
http://imgur.com/bVeLv
That would support the theory that Shep is on Citadel or at least has parts of it around him.

(Just posting what I find and playin' devils advocate here, I hope for arguments to counter that)

except the shep_alive scene i think is pre rendered. that would explain why there is regular n7 armor instead of whatever you were wearing. can anyone confirm this that is digging around?

yes, but i find it looks a hell of a lot like the thing in the shep_alive scene. but don't know... just speculations as always.

[nyrocron]

Absolutely no evidence, as this does not really apper in the scene and could just be for aesthetic purposes but there are trees in the environment map of the decision scene: http://imgur.com/LBCSC

Modifié par nyrocron, 24 mars 2012 - 07:24 .

[Either.Ardrey]

nyrocron wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

nyrocron wrote...

 I think this could match some of the rubble Shep lies in in the _alive scene: 
http://imgur.com/bVeLv
That would support the theory that Shep is on Citadel or at least has parts of it around him.

(Just posting what I find and playin' devils advocate here, I hope for arguments to counter that)

except the shep_alive scene i think is pre rendered. that would explain why there is regular n7 armor instead of whatever you were wearing. can anyone confirm this that is digging around?

yes, but i find it looks a hell of a lot like the thing in the shep_alive scene. but don't know... just speculations as always.

To me it looks completely different, so I guess it's up to interpretation. 

Modifié par Either.Ardrey, 24 mars 2012 - 07:27 .

[nyrocron]

Now for something real interesting: SOVEREIGN assets in the decision scene: http://imgur.com/Aq7KM

Modifié par nyrocron, 24 mars 2012 - 07:26 .

[zalfy]

nyrocron wrote...

Now for something real interesting: SOVEREIGN assets in the decision scene: http://imgur.com/Aq7KM

O_0:wizard::wizard:

[lex0r11]

Blackwolf0519 wrote...

Anybody know why pictures & links won't work when I post them?

Posted for Blackwolf0519

[Either.Ardrey]

nyrocron wrote...

Now for something real interesting: SOVEREIGN assets in the decision scene: http://imgur.com/Aq7KM

It could belong to Sovereign class Reapers flying by in the background, if that happens.

[Agiyosi]

I was thoroughly disappointed by the ending. I had a feeling something was amiss once you beam up to the Citadel, though. The room with the corpses, Anderson somehow making it to the terminal before you (with no other direct path there), TIM as well, etc. The entire scene with Starchild and the options given were so ludicrous and disjointed from the entire ME experience that it took me aback.

Indoctrination Theory, while not comprised of flawless logic and plot, is about the only thing that makes sense to me. The kicker is that if so, BW must've intended the true story finale to be tacked on as DLC, and to me, whether it is free or not, is an injustice to gamers. Plot-wise, an awesome twist. Execution-wise, leaving the potential scene of Shepard awakening and finishing the job off the initial game is pure consumer rape.

Generally, I don't abhor micro-transactions, DLC, etc. They can augment games, offer terrific content, etc., but it should NEVER be used to offer the final chapter of a game. It's cruel, really, if this is what they're doing.

[nyrocron]

The 1M1 thing is an antenna. Screenshot soon.

/edit: 
http://imgur.com/yzwGL 

The thing about the texture being mirrored is because the texture was just mirrored for the other side of the object btw.

Modifié par nyrocron, 24 mars 2012 - 07:36 .

[RorickHuon]

Either.Ardrey wrote...

nyrocron wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

nyrocron wrote...

 I think this could match some of the rubble Shep lies in in the _alive scene: 
http://imgur.com/bVeLv
That would support the theory that Shep is on Citadel or at least has parts of it around him.

(Just posting what I find and playin' devils advocate here, I hope for arguments to counter that)

except the shep_alive scene i think is pre rendered. that would explain why there is regular n7 armor instead of whatever you were wearing. can anyone confirm this that is digging around?

yes, but i find it looks a hell of a lot like the thing in the shep_alive scene. but don't know... just speculations as always.

To me it looks completely different, so I guess it's up to interpretation. 

I don't think metal or w/e the citadel is made of crumbles like stone. It would melt or break, not crumble. Thats my view on it

Modifié par RorickHuon, 24 mars 2012 - 07:39 .

[battlegoon]

I first of all wanted to say, if this theory is true, it's an even better game then it already was. The reason being, simply because I was indoctrinated, I honestly thought synthesis was the best ending because I wouldn't be able to stand Joket and EDI not being together, sure my character loved Liara but the reapers convinced me i had to sacrifice that in order to save EDI and the geth. It was just really cool, even if this theory isnt true. Sure there's holes but I just thought this was cool

Now, I dunno if it's been mentioned, I guarantee it has but honestly this is IMO the biggest evidence to support indoctrination. In the destroy ending when you see Shep take his last breath, you see the blue beam in the back, which wouldn't be there since the Citadel was destroyed. Am I right? That to me, is the best evidence.

[Kyzee]

lex0r11 wrote...

Blackwolf0519 wrote...

Anybody know why pictures & links won't work when I post them?

Posted for Blackwolf0519

This has got to be one of my favorite memes. 

[Stigweird85]

It looks like I'm not the only one that thinks the majority of BSN is just people moaning without adding anything.

These are some interesting files, although I can't pretend I have the slightest idea what they are or what they mean

[blue water]

I admit there is a lot of compelling evidence supporting the indoctrination theory. Unfortunately, I dont't believe any of it was planned by Bioware. Seems they would have hinted at it by now in order quell all the speculation, anger and bad press. Not to say they couldn't decide to run with it.