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[Turtlicious]

http://oi41.tinypic.com/2nvgso4.jpg


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[segfaulthunter]

BlackDragonBane wrote...

You're secondary explaination is very similiar to a post I made a few pages back. I agree that the whole decision thing is just Harbinger's attempt to confusing Shepard and use his own personality traits and quirks to turn him/her away from the one decision it does not want, the end of the Reapers.

The question is: if it's a hallucination the whole time, what difference does it even make?

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

lavosslayer wrote...

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

Control one of the members of your party and defend Shepard until he wakes up.Then proceed to the Citadel meeting up with Jacob who has been holding off reaper forces by himself.Then onward to confront the TIM and truly end the reaper threat.

Now if it's like the above and free dlc than that would be great.

lol It totally sounded possible until you said Jacob, whom if I recall, wasn't even on the ground but onboard the Crucible with wifey...

My little throw in for Jacob , but I really would like for Shepard to wake up and end the threat in the ways presented by myself and others.

Modifié par LOST SPARTANJLC, 11 mars 2012 - 06:54 .

[RussianOrc]

Turtlicious wrote...

http://oi41.tinypic.com/2nvgso4.jpg


http://i1269.photobu...23/dreamM1M.jpg

thanks...and lol....

[Ona Demonie]

The more I read about the theories of indoctrination and the dream, it makes sense.

[Ona Demonie]

Turtlicious wrote...

http://oi41.tinypic.com/2nvgso4.jpg


http://i1269.photobu...23/dreamM1M.jpg

Explain to me what this "1m1" thing is. 

[BlackDragonBane]

Mtich wrote...

Aanlen wrote...

Mtich wrote...

So if it is all a dream why do the reapers not destroy all traces of shepards body while he/she is knocked out? I can't believe the reapers would just assume he/she was dead and leave. At the very least husks should tear him/her apart.

There's some agruments that the reapers want Shepard alive.. So that covers that. And really though.. I think a plothole of husks not tearing shepard apart is more acceptable than my crewmates suddenly teleporting onto the normandy, ending on eden.

If the reapers were organics I could buy that, it would be as illogical as the emperor letting the rebels arrive at the death star with him on it but I could see it. But why would a machine leave something like that to chance. Why would they decide against killing the only thing standing in their way? Its not like they need shepards help destroying the different races, thier doing fine on their own.

Perhaps Harbinger had grown arrogant after the Reaper's attack on Earth and other planet were going so well, despite resistence.

Harbinger has failed to kill Shepard twice, techincally three times if you count the fact that Cerebrus rebuilt and revived Shepard after the original Normandy was destroyed by the Collectors. Harbinger failed to retrieve Shepard's body thanks to Liara and Feros. This particular Reaper has shown a strange amount of singular hatred for Shepard since Arrival, which could be stretched as for as to entertain the thought that Reapers can feel certain emotions to a degree.

I mean, once the Collectors were destroyed, all the Reapers made a bee-line for Earth before attacking any of the other planets, failing again in killing Shepard. Then you have the incident in London. Harbinger PERSONALLY left the battlefield to confront Shepard again and yet again, failed to kill the Commander, but likely its hubris led it to think there was no way Shepard survived the blast or even if he/she had, Shepard would be too wounded to be a threat and would eventually be finished off by Reaper troops.

Wild speculation and thermal clip grabbing here, but it's some food for thought.

segfaulthunter wrote...

BlackDragonBane wrote...

You're secondary explaination is very similiar to a post I made a few pages back. I agree that the whole decision thing is just Harbinger's attempt to confusing Shepard and use his own personality traits and quirks to turn him/her away from the one decision it does not want, the end of the Reapers.

The question is: if it's a hallucination the whole time, what difference does it even make?

 

Weither Shepard is indoctrinated or not. If the indoctrination fails, Shepard wakes up, albiet badly wounded, and the Reapers lose probably the last chance they have to crush the resistence. After all, all the races are there and fighting tooth and nail BECAUSE of Shepard. It also means that the Reapers are in danger of feeling the brunt of whatever the Crucible is truly capable of and the Crucible is something that scares them.

If the indcotrination succeeds, it's likely the Reapers use Shepard to sabatoge the resistence and the fleets, crushing any and all counter measures to stop them, leaving them free to continue their harvesting, since the Crucible will likely no longer be a threat.

The Reapers fear Shepard and have put alot of effort into trying to stop him/her in whatever means they can.

Modifié par BlackDragonBane, 11 mars 2012 - 06:59 .

[thePredator50]

Turtlicious wrote...

http://oi41.tinypic.com/2nvgso4.jpg


http://i1269.photobu...23/dreamM1M.jpg

Sloppy texturing it is....

[Stalker]

Turtlicious wrote...

http://oi41.tinypic.com/2nvgso4.jpg


http://i1269.photobu...23/dreamM1M.jpg

Are people actually building their hopes on this? lol.

[fluffyburrito]

The child that, in all of Shepard's dreams, has represented the people he couldn't save is giving him choices on how to save the galaxy? I'd like to think it's not real and that Shepard died or dreamed it somehow.

It's also odd that he visibly dies reaching for the console yet, when the platform is raised, he
"wakes up".

Modifié par fluffyburrito, 11 mars 2012 - 06:59 .

[Ona Demonie]

Mr Massakka wrote...

Turtlicious wrote...

http://oi41.tinypic.com/2nvgso4.jpg


http://i1269.photobu...23/dreamM1M.jpg

Are people actually building their hopes on this? lol.

What does it even mean?

[lavosslayer]

Mr Massakka wrote...

Turtlicious wrote...

http://oi41.tinypic.com/2nvgso4.jpg


http://i1269.photobu...23/dreamM1M.jpg

Are people actually building their hopes on this? lol.

I'm not personally...however I still do believe in the Indoctrination concept for the current ending

[Vade Katana]

Ona Demonie wrote...

Mr Massakka wrote...

Turtlicious wrote...

http://oi41.tinypic.com/2nvgso4.jpg


http://i1269.photobu...23/dreamM1M.jpg

Are people actually building their hopes on this? lol.

What does it even mean?

I'm interesting in getting an explanation for what is going on in these two pictures.

[thePredator50]

Ona Demonie wrote...

Mr Massakka wrote...

Turtlicious wrote...

http://oi41.tinypic.com/2nvgso4.jpg


http://i1269.photobu...23/dreamM1M.jpg

Are people actually building their hopes on this? lol.

What does it even mean?

Nothing. People simply thought that in the first picture, the reverse lettering is a sign of the choices being inverted as well (paragon / renegade). It was just stretching it too thin, nothing significant.

[lavosslayer]

Ona Demonie wrote...

Mr Massakka wrote...

Turtlicious wrote...

http://oi41.tinypic.com/2nvgso4.jpg


http://i1269.photobu...23/dreamM1M.jpg

Are people actually building their hopes on this? lol.

What does it even mean?

This was answered on the previous page by several of us...essentially 1 + M (being the 13th letter of the alphabet) + 1 = 15 so some people were thinking it meant that once the Japanese release happens on the 15th we will get a response to the ending...

[Mtich]

BlackDragonBane wrote...

Mtich wrote...

Aanlen wrote...

Mtich wrote...

So if it is all a dream why do the reapers not destroy all traces of shepards body while he/she is knocked out? I can't believe the reapers would just assume he/she was dead and leave. At the very least husks should tear him/her apart.

There's some agruments that the reapers want Shepard alive.. So that covers that. And really though.. I think a plothole of husks not tearing shepard apart is more acceptable than my crewmates suddenly teleporting onto the normandy, ending on eden.

If the reapers were organics I could buy that, it would be as illogical as the emperor letting the rebels arrive at the death star with him on it but I could see it. But why would a machine leave something like that to chance. Why would they decide against killing the only thing standing in their way? Its not like they need shepards help destroying the different races, thier doing fine on their own.

Perhaps Harbinger had grown arrogant after the Reaper's attack on Earth and other planet were going so well, despite resistence.

Harbinger has failed to kill Shepard twice, techincally three times if you count the fact that Cerebrus rebuilt and revived Shepard after the original Normandy was destroyed by the Collectors. Harbinger failed to retrieve Shepard's body thanks to Liara and Feros. This particular Reaper has shown a strange amount of singular hatred for Shepard since Arrival, which could be stretched as for as to entertain the thought that Reapers can feel certain emotions to a degree.

I mean, once the Collectors were destroyed, all the Reapers made a bee-line for Earth before attacking any of the other planets, failing again in killing Shepard. Then you have the incident in London. Harbinger PERSONALLY left the battlefield to confront Shepard again and yet again, failed to kill the Commander, but likely its hubris led it to think there was no way Shepard survived the blast or even if he/she had, Shepard would be too wounded to be a threat and would eventually be finished off by Reaper troops.

Wild speculation and thermal clip grabbing here, but it's some food for thought.

segfaulthunter wrote...

BlackDragonBane wrote...

You're secondary explaination is very similiar to a post I made a few pages back. I agree that the whole decision thing is just Harbinger's attempt to confusing Shepard and use his own personality traits and quirks to turn him/her away from the one decision it does not want, the end of the Reapers.

The question is: if it's a hallucination the whole time, what difference does it even make?

 

Weither Shepard is indoctrinated or not. If the indoctrination fails, Shepard wakes up, albiet badly wounded, and the Reapers lose probably the last chance they have to crush the resistence. After all, all the races are there and fighting tooth and nail BECAUSE of Shepard. It also means that the Reapers are in danger of feeling the brunt of whatever the Crucible is truly capable of and the Crucible is something that scares them.

If the indcotrination succeeds, it's likely the Reapers use Shepard to sabatoge the resistence and the fleets, crushing any and all counter measures to stop them, leaving them free to continue their harvesting, since the Crucible will likely no longer be a threat.

The Reapers fear Shepard and have put alot of effort into trying to stop him/her in whatever means they can.

I guess that could make sense. I consider it a plothole but I guess its nothing compared to the normandy crashing. I just don't want to get my hopes up for nothing.

[Kveki]

Guys,IN battlefield numbers on one cover were 1942 and it was the announcment of the next game....So this could mean something too...There are many things pointing that this thread is true

[humes spork]

fluffyburrito wrote...

It's also odd that he visibly dies reaching for the console yet, when the platform is raised, he
"wakes up".

Not to mention the fact the platform was lifting Shepard into a bright light...communicating with a being of light...and the fact Shepard seems quite peaceful and painless after that sequence...flashes back and forwards...yadda yadda, point is that whole thing is perfectly consistent with near-death experiences.

[tommythetomcat]

Vade Katana wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...

Mr Massakka wrote...

Turtlicious wrote...

http://oi41.tinypic.com/2nvgso4.jpg


http://i1269.photobu...23/dreamM1M.jpg

Are people actually building their hopes on this? lol.

What does it even mean?

I'm interesting in getting an explanation for what is going on in these two pictures.

It's a thin explainion at best considering the other evidence being more realistic, Shepard taking a breath in the Destroy ending.

Modifié par tommythetomcat, 11 mars 2012 - 07:04 .

[Leafs43]

Mr Massakka wrote...

Turtlicious wrote...

http://oi41.tinypic.com/2nvgso4.jpg


http://i1269.photobu...23/dreamM1M.jpg

If no organic has never reached that part of the citadel, as explained by the catalyst itself,. what are human orginated numbers doing there in the first place?

[lavosslayer]

tommythetomcat wrote...

Vade Katana wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...

Mr Massakka wrote...

Turtlicious wrote...

http://oi41.tinypic.com/2nvgso4.jpg


http://i1269.photobu...23/dreamM1M.jpg

Are people actually building their hopes on this? lol.

What does it even mean?

I'm interesting in getting an explanation for what is going on in these two pictures.

It's a thin explainion at best considering the other evidence being more realistic, Shepard taking a breath in the Destroy ending.

I don't think that's Shepards last breath but his first breath after waking up from his Indoctrination stupor...if you notice he isn't breathing at all before the breath happens...

[CyanidPontifex]

I think that everything up to the moment Hackett says "its not working" is real; during this time, you can feel the Reapers mind trying to control Shepard, with all of the strange visual effects. Right as he/she's reaching for the console to try to fix things, the Reapers succeed, and force the visions of the god child. If the "destroy" ending is taken, Shep manages to force the indoctrination away for a moment and activate the console.

[Mizar_Panzar]

If it was a hallucination,

It simply means that, the cycle continues, despite Shepard's best efforts.

[Pandora]

Hallucination eh? Dream? Inception? Did Cobb get into Shep's head? That's pretty big statement. I'm not sure about the numbers. It seems farfetched imo. Hopefully, when the Japanese get their release we'll get some news on this.

[Ainyan42]

Leafs43 wrote...

Mr Massakka wrote...

Turtlicious wrote...

http://oi41.tinypic.com/2nvgso4.jpg


http://i1269.photobu...23/dreamM1M.jpg

If no organic has never reached that part of the citadel, as explained by the catalyst itself,. what are human orginated numbers doing there in the first place?

Maybe you could assume that our alphabet was handed down to us by the Protheans?

Well, except for the part where every time you see an example of their script, it looks completely alien. It's a good point, though being the cynic I am, it might just be oversight.