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byne

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Dwailing wrote...

protognosis wrote...

NikolaiShade wrote...

tomhagen27 wrote...

http://i39.tinypic.com/1gnlw2.jpg

probably already in this thread but if it isn't have a look. be warned, red part is spoiler-free, the blue parts show the future of the mass effect series (from what i have heard, will no read. i hate spoilers)


If I'm not mistaken this comes from the same source (4chan) as "The Truth" DLC.
There are some minor and major inconsistencies but, at this time, all is possible.
To quote a wise vampire: the coin is still turning.



A Legacy of Kain reference? You sir are my hero.Posted Image

I really hope the terminator dlc is real if IT isn't a possibility.

At least there would be some "closure."


I really hope that this is just an elaborate hoax.  If not... well, at least there would be closure.


From what I read of the Terminator DLC, Shepard is reincarnated as the godchild, and not actually Shepard.

And then godchild gets to marry Liara.

If that happens heads will roll.

Lots and lots of heads.

Unless I just totally misunderstood the terminator DLC based on my quick skimming through it.

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Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

JTP117 wrote...

byne wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

ME3endingsucks2 wrote...

I see no one cares about my revelation lol


Well, I just generally try to pretend the epilogue with the old man and the child never even happened.

I like that even less than I like the endings, if that is possible.

If we assume the endings are true, people forgetting Shepard was just a regular person, and treating her like some kind of deity, calling her 'The Shepard' just really annoys me.




I'm wondering if that scene was an example of the Reapers appealing to Shepard's pride.


Man, if it was, they failed miserably there. My Shepard multiple times stated she didnt want soldiers looking at her as being any different from them. The Reapers trying to appeal to her by implying people would view her as basically a deity would be like their biggest miscalculation ever. Of all time.


Was that a Red vs Blue homage there at the end? I think agent Washington would be happy to see that. :)


It was indeed! I wondered if anyone would notice it.


Speaking of RvB, does anyone else think that after the blast from Harbinger's beam Shepard is thinking something to the effect of, "I can't feel my torso." :)


"My body......is trying to die"

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Jokers first comment about, "Shepard, How do you know this is reality?"

EDI - "I can confirm this is the real world"

Joker "Oh that settles that, Good thing we have a AI to tell us that this is reality"

Who thinks that this is some uber foreshadowing?

Modifié par Denvian, 26 mars 2012 - 02:12 .


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Terminator DLC is fake.
Moving on.

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How legit is the bioware community manager at Twitter?
Some tweets have been hinting at the indoctrination theory...
Someone was complaining about a bug, that Shepard got shot on the shoulder and not in the rib cage and that Anderson's bullet wound never showed up...

She replied by saying: "Bug or did the devs intend it? ;)"

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cavs25 wrote...

How legit is the bioware community manager at Twitter?
Some tweets have been hinting at the indoctrination theory...
Someone was complaining about a bug, that Shepard got shot on the shoulder and not in the rib cage and that Anderson's bullet wound never showed up...

She replied by saying: "Bug or did the devs intend it? ;)"


Funny, at first I thought it was a bug too

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cavs25 wrote...

How legit is the bioware community manager at Twitter?
Some tweets have been hinting at the indoctrination theory...
Someone was complaining about a bug, that Shepard got shot on the shoulder and not in the rib cage and that Anderson's bullet wound never showed up...

She replied by saying: "Bug or did the devs intend it? ;)"


Depends really. A lot of what she says can be attributed to keeping people's hopes alive, but she does seem to be a large fan of this theory despite how she viewed the endings for herself.

Take from that what you will.

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I see so till April we will keep holdin...the you know the rest..

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JTP117 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

JTP117 wrote...

byne wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

ME3endingsucks2 wrote...

I see no one cares about my revelation lol


Well, I just generally try to pretend the epilogue with the old man and the child never even happened.

I like that even less than I like the endings, if that is possible.

If we assume the endings are true, people forgetting Shepard was just a regular person, and treating her like some kind of deity, calling her 'The Shepard' just really annoys me.




I'm wondering if that scene was an example of the Reapers appealing to Shepard's pride.


Man, if it was, they failed miserably there. My Shepard multiple times stated she didnt want soldiers looking at her as being any different from them. The Reapers trying to appeal to her by implying people would view her as basically a deity would be like their biggest miscalculation ever. Of all time.


Was that a Red vs Blue homage there at the end? I think agent Washington would be happy to see that. :)


It was indeed! I wondered if anyone would notice it.


Speaking of RvB, does anyone else think that after the blast from Harbinger's beam Shepard is thinking something to the effect of, "I can't feel my torso." :)


"My body......is trying to die"


"I think I'm going to stop standing up now."

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JTP117 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Speaking of RvB, does anyone else think that after the blast from Harbinger's beam Shepard is thinking something to the effect of, "I can't feel my torso." :)


"My body......is trying to die"


All these RvB quotes made me remember one that is actually somewhat relevant.

Simmons: What if all this technology is just left over from an ancient civilization that was way more advanced than us.

Donut: Wait a minute, how could an ancient civilization be more advanced? If they were so advanced, where did they go?

Simmons: They could have mysteriously disappeared, only leaving behind a legacy of enigmatic technology.

Donut: ......That's gay.



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It's fake but have you seen the thread? There's STILL people who are sure that it's not fake and that BioWare just lied... holy hell this place has really bit the bucket.

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Hold the line!

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byne wrote...

JTP117 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Speaking of RvB, does anyone else think that after the blast from Harbinger's beam Shepard is thinking something to the effect of, "I can't feel my torso." :)


"My body......is trying to die"


All these RvB quotes made me remember one that is actually somewhat relevant.

Simmons: What if all this technology is just left over from an ancient civilization that was way more advanced than us.

Donut: Wait a minute, how could an ancient civilization be more advanced? If they were so advanced, where did they go?

Simmons: They could have mysteriously disappeared, only leaving behind a legacy of enigmatic technology.

Donut: ......That's gay.


Simmons:"Let's just stop talking about this" Makes me laugh every time

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byne wrote...

JTP117 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Speaking of RvB, does anyone else think that after the blast from Harbinger's beam Shepard is thinking something to the effect of, "I can't feel my torso." :)


"My body......is trying to die"


All these RvB quotes made me remember one that is actually somewhat relevant.

Simmons: What if all this technology is just left over from an ancient civilization that was way more advanced than us.

Donut: Wait a minute, how could an ancient civilization be more advanced? If they were so advanced, where did they go?

Simmons: They could have mysteriously disappeared, only leaving behind a legacy of enigmatic technology.

Donut: ......That's gay.


Ahahaha, Red Vs. Blue is some good stuff

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Dwailing wrote...

JTP117 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

JTP117 wrote...

byne wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

ME3endingsucks2 wrote...

I see no one cares about my revelation lol


Well, I just generally try to pretend the epilogue with the old man and the child never even happened.

I like that even less than I like the endings, if that is possible.

If we assume the endings are true, people forgetting Shepard was just a regular person, and treating her like some kind of deity, calling her 'The Shepard' just really annoys me.




I'm wondering if that scene was an example of the Reapers appealing to Shepard's pride.


Man, if it was, they failed miserably there. My Shepard multiple times stated she didnt want soldiers looking at her as being any different from them. The Reapers trying to appeal to her by implying people would view her as basically a deity would be like their biggest miscalculation ever. Of all time.


Was that a Red vs Blue homage there at the end? I think agent Washington would be happy to see that. :)


It was indeed! I wondered if anyone would notice it.


Speaking of RvB, does anyone else think that after the blast from Harbinger's beam Shepard is thinking something to the effect of, "I can't feel my torso." :)


"My body......is trying to die"


"I think I'm going to stop standing up now."


"I'm okay. I'm okay"
*falls*
"I'm not okay!"

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JTP117 wrote...

byne wrote...

JTP117 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Speaking of RvB, does anyone else think that after the blast from Harbinger's beam Shepard is thinking something to the effect of, "I can't feel my torso." :)


"My body......is trying to die"


All these RvB quotes made me remember one that is actually somewhat relevant.

Simmons: What if all this technology is just left over from an ancient civilization that was way more advanced than us.

Donut: Wait a minute, how could an ancient civilization be more advanced? If they were so advanced, where did they go?

Simmons: They could have mysteriously disappeared, only leaving behind a legacy of enigmatic technology.

Donut: ......That's gay.


Simmons:"Let's just stop talking about this" Makes me laugh every time


Heh, we love Mass Effect, but it is not the most original Sci-Fi series of all time.

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Golferguy758 wrote...

cavs25 wrote...

How legit is the bioware community manager at Twitter?
Some tweets have been hinting at the indoctrination theory...
Someone was complaining about a bug, that Shepard got shot on the shoulder and not in the rib cage and that Anderson's bullet wound never showed up...

She replied by saying: "Bug or did the devs intend it? ;)"


Depends really. A lot of what she says can be attributed to keeping people's hopes alive, but she does seem to be a large fan of this theory despite how she viewed the endings for herself.

Take from that what you will.

Like popping holes in a hot air ballon. 

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Reading some tweets from Mrs. Merizan I can't decide wether she's fooling us or pointing at something.

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NikolaiShade wrote...

Reading some tweets from Mrs. Merizan I can't decide wether she's fooling us or pointing at something.


I'm still not sure whether I'm in love, or whether I want to murder her. jk, jk :)

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Dwailing wrote...

NikolaiShade wrote...

Reading some tweets from Mrs. Merizan I can't decide wether she's fooling us or pointing at something.


I'm still not sure whether I'm in love, or whether I want to murder her. jk, jk :)


On a second thought I'm starting to think they want to get over this quickly.

Edit: I'm feeling like we could hear more about this even before PAX

Modifié par NikolaiShade, 26 mars 2012 - 02:27 .


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Golferguy758 wrote...

cavs25 wrote...

How legit is the bioware community manager at Twitter?
Some tweets have been hinting at the indoctrination theory...
Someone was complaining about a bug, that Shepard got shot on the shoulder and not in the rib cage and that Anderson's bullet wound never showed up...

She replied by saying: "Bug or did the devs intend it? ;)"


Depends really. A lot of what she says can be attributed to keeping people's hopes alive, but she does seem to be a large fan of this theory despite how she viewed the endings for herself.

Take from that what you will.


I take from it that she at least knows to some extent what the devs were planning. And is subtly hinting that the "indoctrination theory" certainly makes sense. And I think she supports it because it's probably real.

I'm sorry for asking, but I don't feel like looking through close to 900 pages of Indoctrination goodness to find it. But are there any other twitter posts that can be attributed to at least hinting at or supporting this theory? I already saw the Jessica compliation with all her posts hinting that something doesn't seem right or that the dev's might've at least intended certain things. If there are can someone link them.

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I'm going to roll with the direction the thread has gone in the last page, and point out that if we combine RvB and ME3, and take the video of Joel being Shepard into account, Destroy still makes the most sense, as thats the only ending choice that results in Caboose killing Church again.

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Her posts have given me hope. I'm hoping she's not setting us up for a letdown.

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byne wrote...

I'm going to roll with the direction the thread has gone in the last page, and point out that if we combine RvB and ME3, and take the video of Joel being Shepard into account, Destroy still makes the most sense, as thats the only ending choice that results in Caboose killing Church again.


ROTFLOL, that was brilliant!  Better hit Ctrl-F-U again.  :)

Edit: On the same RvB ME3 mash up idea, do the Reaper weapons remind you of a certain someone's laser face. ;)

Modifié par Dwailing, 26 mars 2012 - 02:30 .


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FellishBeast wrote...

Her posts have given me hope. I'm hoping she's not setting us up for a letdown.


I think she's trying to get the fans in a good mood, or she has some personal feud going on with the panelists :lol:

Modifié par NikolaiShade, 26 mars 2012 - 02:34 .