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[Vahilor]

Most people seem to sleep right now ^^

[Gernbuster]

I am waiting as well ^^
I won't let this thread go down.
HOLD THE LINE!
IT for win

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Gernbuster wrote...

I am waiting as well ^^
I won't let this thread go down.
HOLD THE LINE!
IT for win

Salarian STG still holding the line in Denmark

[dorktainian]

Holding the Line.   

[Stigweird85]

Here is a question in support of IT

IF you assume the endings stand as they are and where real, then why would an AI/VI take the form of a human boy much less then human boy that has been haunting Shepard throughout the game. The citadel and crucible are at least 50,000. The prothean VI even states that they didn't create the citadel merely improve on a design found from the previous cycle.

Even the art book states that the boy was supposed to be the face of the lost. Those who shepard could not save.

If the godchild is real then why take a familar human form?

[Tr0n01d]

Turian 45th battalion still holding the line in france while drinking a dextro-amino acid special café at champs elycées.

just a question.

can a reaper fall in love ?

there's this sovereign class reaper that keeps staring the eiffel tower, turning around and making noise like hell with his singular cry.

not complaining though, thanks to that we've been able to completely evacuate the surroundings without any casualties.

*slurp* 

Aaaaaaahhh "l'amour !"

[Stigweird85]

DocJill wrote...

Dear indoc theory experts:

If Shepard is hallucinating the safe escape of the Normandy, is he/she also hallucinating the destruction of the mass relays? Is the destruction of the mass relays necessary for the "destroy" ending to work, or is a ploy by GodChildReaper to keep you from picking the destroy option? So when Shepard wakes up in the London rubble, the mass relays may still be intact?

I need this resolved for my headcon, thank you.

My understanding is there are two standpoints on IT

1 - Everything after being hit by Harbringers beam is an illusion i.e. The conversation with Anderson and The Illusive man didn't happen

2. The conversation with illusive man happened and it wasn't under Shepard collapsed and was raised on the platform to speak to the godchild where the illusion kicked in.

Either way the Mass Relays are not destroyed, the crucible hasn't actiavted and the reapers are still very much a thread.

[Tr0n01d]

there's one big counterargument for the 2nd idea, if shepard did manage to climb through the beam up to the citadel, how could he end up in london when he "wakes up" alive ?

[DarkValor]

bigstig wrote...

If the godchild is real then why take a familar human form?

Uhm... to trick you...? *insert confused look here*

(because it's really a Reaper in disguise maybe?)

Dark.

[mooney6023]

bigstig wrote...

Here is a question in support of IT

IF you assume the endings stand as they are and where real, then why would an AI/VI take the form of a human boy much less then human boy that has been haunting Shepard throughout the game. The citadel and crucible are at least 50,000. The prothean VI even states that they didn't create the citadel merely improve on a design found from the previous cycle.

Even the art book states that the boy was supposed to be the face of the lost. Those who shepard could not save.

If the godchild is real then why take a familar human form?

Whether you believe the end scene was real or not, the god child has that form because he pulled it from Shepard's mind, or put it in his mind from the beginning of the game.  

If someone throws the overlord/legion VI possibility in, I still say "it" had Shepard's mind interpret the "catalyst" as something manipulative and trauma related like this kid that represents the "lost."

[JimboAdams]

JTP117 wrote...

LadyVakarian wrote...

JTP117 wrote...

Okay, I'm in the one of the godchild dreams right now. I decided to walk into a group of the shadow figures to see if they said anything. I could hear them whispering. I swear to god I heard them say "don't trust him", "Get back commander" , "Someone outside is coming" (when I got close to the boy), "SHEPARD! (really loud elderly male voice), every time I got in a group of the whisps, "Stay away from him, trust yourself" (that one sent chills up my spine)

and has anyone noticed that the whisps almost blockade the boy? Like they don't want you near him? How about how the got louder and angrier as the whispered when you approached him.

I decided to write this as I played so I wouldn't forget anything. The dialogue of the whisps needs to be analyzed further, there's something important hidden in their speech, I just know it.

That is just creepy. I have a MIGHTY NEED to check this out now. (cookies to who knows the reference) I'll give you a hint:
[smilie]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkr2ain9Yz1qatmzjo1_400.gif[/smilie]

The next play through, I will be sure to keep this in mind, nice find 

Thank you! Trust me, just don't go straight to the child, head toward any group of whisps and walk into the middle, they'll say those things louder than the murmur you hear from a distance, you can't miss it

Why isn't anyone paying attention to this?! Also one thing I noticed about the dream sequences is that the wind blowing leaves grows faster and stronger, this could be alluding to shepard's own judgement being clouded by the slow indoctrination

[Stigweird85]

I have been replaying the game and paying close attention to those dreams.

The best that I get is occasional sound bites from dead squad mates. No new dialogue just snippets from Mass Effect 1 and/ord 2

[DocManga]

JimboAdams wrote...

JTP117 wrote...

LadyVakarian wrote...

JTP117 wrote...

Okay, I'm in the one of the godchild dreams right now. I decided to walk into a group of the shadow figures to see if they said anything. I could hear them whispering. I swear to god I heard them say "don't trust him", "Get back commander" , "Someone outside is coming" (when I got close to the boy), "SHEPARD! (really loud elderly male voice), every time I got in a group of the whisps, "Stay away from him, trust yourself" (that one sent chills up my spine)

and has anyone noticed that the whisps almost blockade the boy? Like they don't want you near him? How about how the got louder and angrier as the whispered when you approached him.

I decided to write this as I played so I wouldn't forget anything. The dialogue of the whisps needs to be analyzed further, there's something important hidden in their speech, I just know it.

That is just creepy. I have a MIGHTY NEED to check this out now. (cookies to who knows the reference) I'll give you a hint:
[smilie]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkr2ain9Yz1qatmzjo1_400.gif[/smilie]

The next play through, I will be sure to keep this in mind, nice find 

Thank you! Trust me, just don't go straight to the child, head toward any group of whisps and walk into the middle, they'll say those things louder than the murmur you hear from a distance, you can't miss it

Why isn't anyone paying attention to this?! Also one thing I noticed about the dream sequences is that the wind blowing leaves grows faster and stronger, this could be alluding to shepard's own judgement being clouded by the slow indoctrination

could someone make a vid about this? Dont wanna start the game again just for the dream sequences.

[Arian Dynas]

We would be legends, but the records are sealed.

Before the Network, there was the fleet. Before diplomacy, there were soldiers!

Our influence stopped the Rachni

But before that we held the line!

Our influence stopped the Krogan,

but before that we held the line!

WE WILL HOLD THE LINE!

[Voriax]

JimboAdams wrote...

JTP117 wrote...

LadyVakarian wrote...

JTP117 wrote...

Okay, I'm in the one of the godchild dreams right now. I decided to walk into a group of the shadow figures to see if they said anything. I could hear them whispering. I swear to god I heard them say "don't trust him", "Get back commander" , "Someone outside is coming" (when I got close to the boy), "SHEPARD! (really loud elderly male voice), every time I got in a group of the whisps, "Stay away from him, trust yourself" (that one sent chills up my spine)

and has anyone noticed that the whisps almost blockade the boy? Like they don't want you near him? How about how the got louder and angrier as the whispered when you approached him.

I decided to write this as I played so I wouldn't forget anything. The dialogue of the whisps needs to be analyzed further, there's something important hidden in their speech, I just know it.

That is just creepy. I have a MIGHTY NEED to check this out now. (cookies to who knows the reference) I'll give you a hint:
[smilie]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkr2ain9Yz1qatmzjo1_400.gif[/smilie]

The next play through, I will be sure to keep this in mind, nice find 

Thank you! Trust me, just don't go straight to the child, head toward any group of whisps and walk into the middle, they'll say those things louder than the murmur you hear from a distance, you can't miss it

Why isn't anyone paying attention to this?! Also one thing I noticed about the dream sequences is that the wind blowing leaves grows faster and stronger, this could be alluding to shepard's own judgement being clouded by the slow indoctrination

funny i noticed something fammiliar in the dream scene's and now that you say it i do remember something vague as what you said but i just thought it was my own mind playing dirty tricks on me

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

DarkValor wrote...

bigstig wrote...

If the godchild is real then why take a familar human form?

Uhm... to trick you...? *insert confused look here*

(because it's really a Reaper in disguise maybe?)

Dark.

Exactly, that is what I always assumed.

If Harbinger (or any other Reaper) is inside Sheaprds head and has at least to some degree been controlling what he sees, including that child then it is simple to make the Catalyst to appear as the child in the Illusion.

And really if it is not an Illusion how the f... did the Catalyst know to take that form. As said noone has set foot there in a eternity so unless it somehow speed brain proobed Shepard´s mind and for some reason decided the Child would be the best form to take, that is the one of the parts that make least sense.

[Falconee]

Voriax wrote...

JimboAdams wrote...

JTP117 wrote...

LadyVakarian wrote...

JTP117 wrote...

Okay, I'm in the one of the godchild dreams right now. I decided to walk into a group of the shadow figures to see if they said anything. I could hear them whispering. I swear to god I heard them say "don't trust him", "Get back commander" , "Someone outside is coming" (when I got close to the boy), "SHEPARD! (really loud elderly male voice), every time I got in a group of the whisps, "Stay away from him, trust yourself" (that one sent chills up my spine)

and has anyone noticed that the whisps almost blockade the boy? Like they don't want you near him? How about how the got louder and angrier as the whispered when you approached him.

I decided to write this as I played so I wouldn't forget anything. The dialogue of the whisps needs to be analyzed further, there's something important hidden in their speech, I just know it.

That is just creepy. I have a MIGHTY NEED to check this out now. (cookies to who knows the reference) I'll give you a hint:
[smilie]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkr2ain9Yz1qatmzjo1_400.gif[/smilie]

The next play through, I will be sure to keep this in mind, nice find 

Thank you! Trust me, just don't go straight to the child, head toward any group of whisps and walk into the middle, they'll say those things louder than the murmur you hear from a distance, you can't miss it

Why isn't anyone paying attention to this?! Also one thing I noticed about the dream sequences is that the wind blowing leaves grows faster and stronger, this could be alluding to shepard's own judgement being clouded by the slow indoctrination

funny i noticed something fammiliar in the dream scene's and now that you say it i do remember something vague as what you said but i just thought it was my own mind playing dirty tricks on me

DAMN!
I was eversince in denial to the IT. But now you mention the shadows barring the way to the child, i remember recognising and wondering about that.
Is there any vid about the voices warning you? Because without a new playtrough i cant test that.

[Voriax]

well just heared from a housemate of mine he read in a newspaper that bioware is going to make new ending of this information is accurate i do not know i havent read it can anyone else perhaps comfirm it? and if its bad info then i am sorry for giving hope

[Spectre-61]

^don't apologize for giving hope. It's all we got at the moment.

[thebigbad1013]

Still holding the line. Still believing in the indoc theory.

[surleygentelman]

There is no need to hope. The endings are not going to be reconned (thankfully). All they are going to do is add more explanation. Hopefully this will pacficy the individuals who had a hard time with the ending and now demand new endings, free packs in multiplayer, and other nonsense.

If we are going to get BIOWARE to fix something then demand server transfers in star wars the old republic.

Surleygentelman deserves server TRANSFERS

[n00bsauce2010]

LadyVakarian wrote...

 Since we are back to the topic of "Where does the beam start?" on the galaxy map, I thought I would bring back my pictures and comparisons for you all. It looks like the beam starts in the Viper Nebula (Arrival DLC anyone?) and doesn't reach the Local Cluster for quite a while. I will include the video I suppose to back it up but here is my contribution:




And finally, the link: http://youtu.be/6AdWqlsQjWo?t=2m 

Enjoy 

Just thought people would like to see that before it gets drowned out. Thanks to Ladyvakarian. Pretty safe to assume it's in his head if he's telling us the explosions start from a mass relay that is apparently destroyed.

[JustAidan]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

LadyVakarian wrote...

 Since we are back to the topic of "Where does the beam start?" on the galaxy map, I thought I would bring back my pictures and comparisons for you all. It looks like the beam starts in the Viper Nebula (Arrival DLC anyone?) and doesn't reach the Local Cluster for quite a while. I will include the video I suppose to back it up but here is my contribution:




And finally, the link: http://youtu.be/6AdWqlsQjWo?t=2m 

Enjoy 

Just thought people would like to see that before it gets drowned out. Thanks to Ladyvakarian. Pretty safe to assume it's in his head if he's telling us the explosions start from a mass relay that is apparently destroyed.

Especially since it is one s/he her/himself destroyed.

Loads of stuff in this thread, I really hope Bioware do a video/document releasing all the hints they point into the game =D, that would sweet to be able to mark off the ones we have gotten.

Modifié par JustAidan, 26 mars 2012 - 10:51 .

[Pezza360]

So if the kid is an indoctrination... And those dream sequences happen in your mind as means of indoctrination... What if the way to resist indoctrination was to not follow the kid at all?

[Stigweird85]

Pezza360 wrote...

So if the kid is an indoctrination... And those dream sequences happen in your mind as means of indoctrination... What if the way to resist indoctrination was to not follow the kid at all?

Well that's the question.

Some say that the DLC may add an option for you to turn and walk away.

Others believe that destroy is the only option as it represents breaking free,

Some have even argued that any ending could be used and expanded on. @Greywardencommanders thread is particularly interesting with regards to that