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[zakaryzb]

earth_angel wrote...

blueboxblues wrote...

 Has anyone been following the Alliance News Network Twitter account? 
  http://twitter.com/#!/AllianceNewsNet 

It's been posting about attacks and stuff that happen in the game...today it just posted that asari space was attacked. Has anyone mentioned that they might be in time with the game and an announcement? I mean, now we know that we'll hear something in April, but maybe the ANN updates have been in "real time" with events in the game (so to speak) and the announcement will come, like, when the final assault on Earth "happens?" I'm not sure if my rambling makes sense but I kind of hope this is the case because it's cool haha.

nice catch! That would be great indeed!

While there are only a few posts since ME3's release, it is going chronologically according to story and the time tables seem right.  I remember Shepard talking with Anderson about how it have been a couple weeks since he left and that was right before Thessia was taken. We shall have to just stay tuned...

[gunslinger_ruiz]

greywardencommander wrote...

Peregrin25 wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

but then the asari couldnt have taken tech from it, could they? and if they didnt know what the beacon was for, why hide it?

Any piece of prothean technology, even if it's not functional, even if no one knows how it works, has proven to advance the technology of any species that can analyze it. Could be something simple like reducing communication lag or something big like how to make an Eezo core and achieve FTL speeds. You wouldn't have to view any messages from a beacon, only decode raw data and analyze physical pieces of the beacon. At least thats what the ME Universe lets us beleive.

Think of it this way, before ME1 and the discovery of the working beacon and Shepards Cipher that eventually decoded it, the galaxy still made advancements using prothean And reaper technology (the citadel, the mass relays) without ever knowing there something like the Cipher that could help them understand Prothean language/technology that much easier.

The Citadel and the Mass Relays were made by the Reapers no one else. They even state that in the story!

they mean Prothean - Beacons
Reapers - Citadel and mass relays
not that both are Prothean and Reapers combined efforts

Thanks for the clarification Warden Commander, I was about to go back and edit it

[Hunter_Wolf]

N7xELITE wrote...

What would you do if Shepard was dreaming everything and wakes up in a train in new York in 2012.

I'd goto win the presidency with my campaign, "The Reapers are coming in about 500 years. We need to get our ass to mars, find the Prothean archives, and then hit up Charon to unlock our residential Relay. Then we can meet the Turians for the first time who will prove certain religions are a joke. We'll war with them for a little bit first though since we're all hostile and niave."

Modifié par Hunter_Wolf, 26 mars 2012 - 09:27 .

[byne]

Hunter_Wolf wrote...

N7xELITE wrote...

What would you do if Shepard was dreaming everything and wakes up in a train in new York in 2012.

I'd goto win the presidency with my campaign, "The Reapers are coming in about 500 years. We need to get our ass to mars, find the Prothean archives, and then hit up Charon to unlock our residential Relay. Then we can meet the Turians for the first time who will prove certain religions are a joke. We'll war with them for a little bit first though since we're all hostile and niave."

To be completely fair to humanity, the turians attacked us first.

[blueboxblues]

tobito113 wrote...

earth_angel wrote...

blueboxblues wrote...

 Has anyone been following the Alliance News Network Twitter account? 
  http://twitter.com/#!/AllianceNewsNet 

It's been posting about attacks and stuff that happen in the game...today it just posted that asari space was attacked. Has anyone mentioned that they might be in time with the game and an announcement? I mean, now we know that we'll hear something in April, but maybe the ANN updates have been in "real time" with events in the game (so to speak) and the announcement will come, like, when the final assault on Earth "happens?" I'm not sure if my rambling makes sense but I kind of hope this is the case because it's cool haha.

nice catch! That would be great indeed!

Pax is next week so it better come soon

Maybe the PAX announcement will ACTUALLY be that Thessia has fallen to Reaper forces...

[Hunter_Wolf]

Sareth Cousland wrote...

Back on topic, here's one more thing to support the IT: there was no boss fight. Sure, there's no need for a boss fight in every game, but we have Saren in ME1 (immediately after the fight, the game is over), the human reaper in ME2 (meh, but still the game was over almost immediately after that fight), and for the last 15 minutes of a game that is also aimed at action gamers (ME3), there is only dialogue. Guys, that IS the boss fight - the first mental end-battle in videogame history. Shepard vs. Harbinger.

At least I hope it is.

The two primary arguments right now that have me convinced that there's something going on that, for legitimate reasons, Bioware isn't telling us.

1.) In any civil society, men and women would not ignore a child struggling to get onto a craft. I'd even argue someone  with maternal instincts would jump out and grab the kid despite the fact that a giant robot is looming not far from them and heading in their direction. My point here is, in a hero's story even in the sight of inpending doom, one would attempt to sacrifice themselves if they thought they could save the child. If the soldiers were holding them back, someone would of likely made some kind of indication that the child was there - nobody does that.

and

2.) Shepard enters the Crucible th entire time limping but he's grabbing his right side. Marauder Shields shoots Shepard but Shepard peels his right side back implying he was hist somewhere on the right portion of his chest. After TIM forced Shepard to shoot Anderson, later as they're sitting down for their last moments, Shepard now grips his left where blood is apparent. 

Note: The camera also makes a strong attempt to focus in on this particular scene, a close up of Shepard's hand covered in fresh blood.



Now I still take all of this with a grain of salt, kind of hard to guess right when all we have is vague and tiny hints that provide no answer - therefore "Speculate away". I don't think even Bioware would mess up by accident so bad for the Lore that to me it seems like it was deliberate. Well the fact of the matter is the endings happened and they want us to believe they intended for that ending to happen. The question is, where was it going? 

Modifié par Hunter_Wolf, 26 mars 2012 - 09:36 .

[waldstr18]

actually, ive just been to thessia, and it has fallen to the reapers.

[Turbotanden]

Sareth Cousland wrote...

Back on topic, here's one more thing to support the IT: there was no boss fight. Sure, there's no need for a boss fight in every game, but we have Saren in ME1 (immediately after the fight, the game is over), the human reaper in ME2 (meh, but still the game was over almost immediately after that fight), and for the last 15 minutes of a game that is also aimed at action gamers (ME3), there is only dialogue. Guys, that IS the boss fight - the first mental end-battle in videogame history. Shepard vs. Harbinger.

At least I hope it is.

I think that (if IT is true) is the best boss fight ever in a video game. God damn I still get angry at myself from time to time for not listening to the part of me saying "things here don't add up, something is wrong!" and not choosing the Destroy ending the first time.

[earth_angel]

tobito113 wrote...

earth_angel wrote...

blueboxblues wrote...

 Has anyone been following the Alliance News Network Twitter account? 
  http://twitter.com/#!/AllianceNewsNet 

It's been posting about attacks and stuff that happen in the game...today it just posted that asari space was attacked. Has anyone mentioned that they might be in time with the game and an announcement? I mean, now we know that we'll hear something in April, but maybe the ANN updates have been in "real time" with events in the game (so to speak) and the announcement will come, like, when the final assault on Earth "happens?" I'm not sure if my rambling makes sense but I kind of hope this is the case because it's cool haha.

nice catch! That would be great indeed!

Pax is next week so it better come soon

Well just after the battle on thessia we have ...  the cerberus HQ attack and the London battle that follows immediatly. So we are close to the end even on ANN updates!

[N7xELITE]

 What would you do if Shepard was dreaming everything and wakes up in a train in new York in 2012. Turns out  was his imagination.  







[smilie]http://ts2.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4649951137431845&id=2aff33dd03f03aeea9dab88a82b5f199[/smilie] 

[Hunter_Wolf]

waldstr18 wrote...

actually, ive just been to thessia, and it has fallen to the reapers.

That's open for interpretation. The key to the Cruicible was taken by Kai Lang, where Cerberus at this point is in league with the Reapers - therefore Shepard's attempt on Thessia has failed. That doesn't mean there aren't survivors or resistance still taking place. One squad got crushed, the same squad that was assisting Shepard to get the Museum. It is a failure but it is not the end. That's one city, we're not given the whole picture. 

Shepard only speaks to the Councilor basically saying, "We didn't win." The true fate of Thessia is then left ambigious. 

[nyrocron]

On the "rushed ending" argument, a quote by the creator of the final hours app taken from the AMA on reddit:

Nope, I didn't get any sense that they wanted to delay the game launch past March. You have to understand that something like the ending is written months and months before the game is completed....there is so much testing that has to go on.

[Dwailing]

byne wrote...

Denvian wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MarkasLin wrote...

The asari did not have the Prothean Cipher that Shepard has. The VI only appeared because it thought Shepard was a prothean.

It also could have had something to do with the Prothean who may or may not have been standing next to him. 

What? no one payed for that DLC... ok maybe I did... don't judge me.

You also get Javik free with the CE

Yeah, that's how I got him.  No way I was passing up a bunch of extra weapons and some new outfits for my squad.  Oh, and there was the whole "exclusive character and mission" stuff.  Turns out it wasn't that exclusive.  I just finished ME3 BTW and I chose Destroy, of course. That stuff about how you can hear Mark Meer and Jennifer Hale's voices synced with Star-Brat is true.  Also, that stuff about Shepard moving faster in the Destroy scene is also true.  We all knew that one, but I thought I should put it out there. 

[Hunter_Wolf]

byne wrote...

Hunter_Wolf wrote...

N7xELITE wrote...

What would you do if Shepard was dreaming everything and wakes up in a train in new York in 2012.

I'd goto win the presidency with my campaign, "The Reapers are coming in about 500 years. We need to get our ass to mars, find the Prothean archives, and then hit up Charon to unlock our residential Relay. Then we can meet the Turians for the first time who will prove certain religions are a joke. We'll war with them for a little bit first though since we're all hostile and niave."

To be completely fair to humanity, the turians attacked us first.

Then... yeah, we'll go with that too.

[waldstr18]

wouldnt liara have noticed shepard beeing slowly indoctrinated while sleeping with him? she does do some kind of mind melt, doesnt she? yet on the other hand, she doesnt say her "embrace eternity" line.

[greywardencommander]

Article beither supports I.T nor that the end is not a hallucination but I think they have a point re. doing it that way because that way it translates variables into DLC,


http://www.inenterta...ll-in-the-gaps/

only difference between us and the article is that we think it was deliberate to have you realise the indoctrination attempt and then release the rest in a free DLC, patch or update (xbox live) or whatever later on thus if it's free (and intended) it's a great twist

thus if we say the same we'd say it doesn't need to be imported thus ending DLC based on I.T can have a few cutscenes and dialogue or text that essentially recap everything you've done (like DA:O)

Modifié par greywardencommander, 26 mars 2012 - 09:43 .

[Dwailing]

waldstr18 wrote...

wouldnt liara have noticed shepard beeing slowly indoctrinated while sleeping with him? she does do some kind of mind melt, doesnt she? yet on the other hand, she doesnt say her "embrace eternity" line.

Who says Asari can detect indoc?  That was never stated.

[N7xELITE]

 THE REAPERS WON.





http://ts1.mm.bing.n...d09374 NOOOOOOO

[nyrocron]

Also from the creator of the final hours app:

On the Portal Final Hours I added a chapter about the first DLC and I'm even talking about adding a new chapter there about the next DLC. Same goes for Mass Effect - I always see these Final Hours apps as "living books," that can be updated after the fact.
Yes, I will be including BioWare in the update and you'll be hearing from Casey and Mac in the updated chapter when it is released. (Or at least that is the plan).

[Hunter_Wolf]

waldstr18 wrote...

wouldnt liara have noticed shepard beeing slowly indoctrinated while sleeping with him? she does do some kind of mind melt, doesnt she? yet on the other hand, she doesnt say her "embrace eternity" line.

We still do not understand fully the very concept of Indoctrination. You're talking about a weapon where even the Protheans were fooled by it. So if Asari are good at being able to detect these things, or should be rather, the Protheans should've been gods. 

So there's too much questions surrounding it when it comes to how subtle is subtle.

[Golferguy758]

waldstr18 wrote...

wouldnt liara have noticed shepard beeing slowly indoctrinated while sleeping with him? she does do some kind of mind melt, doesnt she? yet on the other hand, she doesnt say her "embrace eternity" line.

If she noticed anything she would most likely attribute it to stress and worry more than indoctrination.  Indoctrination isn't a red flag camped in your brain, it's subtle change of your emotions and behaviour IIRC

Beyond that if Javik couldn't sense it I highly doubt that Liara would be able to.

[Dwailing]

N7xELITE wrote...

 THE REAPERS WON.





http://ts1.mm.bing.n...d09374 NOOOOOOO

Wouldn't it be cool if there was a Renegade interupt to Sparta kick Star-Brat off the side of the Citadel?  I would have taken that in a heartbeat.