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[earth_angel]

Tawg wrote...

I'm curious, if someone who actually believes this could answer, and I dunno if it's been brought up already or not (Obviously not reading this entire thread): If you were to believe this theory, why would the cut-scenes include views and action from a perspective not of Shepard's? AkA when the Relays blow up, or the Citadel, or the 'Color explosion' on Earth.

Doesn't that kinda crap on this theory, no offense?

Because Shepard is imagining the consequence. it's a way for the reapers to make Shep believe he made the right choice and that his fight is over.

Modifié par earth_angel, 27 mars 2012 - 08:48 .

[Stigweird85]

Baal Sagoth wrote...

It is something different to cut out squadmate, tell that he wasn't made during development process and sell him. Yea it is greedy but people may move along with that.

But cutting ending and trying to sell it is something different. I don't think that even EA or Acti could go for that.

I wont buy any ending DLC (even if it is IDT one). I refuse to approve cutting game to pieces and selling them separatedly.

I am getting a little tired with the "it's not a complete game argument coming back again"  Even if you accept it isn't a complete game so what?

I give you two of the biggest grossing movies or recent memory - Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2,  Twilight Breaking Dawn Part 1 or Part 2. Did buy a ticket for one give you free access to part 2?

In games, Ubisoft sold an epilogue to Prince of Persia, also each year Activision churns out several premium DLC packs to add onto the COD game of the moment. Where those games unfinished(Please note I am not comparing content of the games just citing examples of similar practices)

The game had an ending, whether real or not it had an ending. It would be different if it showed you the final mission and then asked you to pay to play it (arcades were awful for this this tactic) It's no different that your favourite TV show finishing on a cliff hanger. It's a cheap tactic but it has worked for years to generate interest in the next title.

[daftPirate]

Something I was wondering. The high vs low EMS destroy endings. One shows the reapers and their tech being destroyed, the other also shows Big Ben, the soldiers, and most of Earth reduced to cinders. How does this factory into Indoc. Theory?

[Gernbuster]

earth_angel wrote...

Tawg wrote...

I'm curious, if someone who actually believes this could answer, and I dunno if it's been brought up already or not (Obviously not reading this entire thread): If you were to believe this theory, why would the cut-scenes include views and action from a perspective not of Shepard's? AkA when the Relays blow up, or the Citadel, or the 'Color explosion' on Earth.

Doesn't that kinda crap on this theory, no offense?

Because Shepard is imagining the consequence. it's a way for the reapers to make Shep believe he made the right choice and that his fight is over.

Shepard saw so many wars and innocent people dying, that in his oppinion, it may be the best for the galaxy,
if every species would be seperated from each other.

[DarkValor]

Dridengx wrote...
You mean minority

Uh... no.

Dark.

[Gernbuster]

daftPirate wrote...

Something I was wondering. The high vs low EMS destroy endings. One shows the reapers and their tech being destroyed, the other also shows Big Ben, the soldiers, and most of Earth reduced to cinders. How does this factory into Indoc. Theory?

Shepard lost hope. Low EMS leads only to destroy, which is definitly the worst option. The end movie u see represents the level of hope Shepard got left.

The Reapers want to indoctrinate Shep so they got a perfect infiltrator, everyone is trusting him. If your EMS is low, the Reapers may already have won in their oppinion and so they don't care so much about the indoctrination process. Thats why u got less possebilities and the godchild is quit offending.

[Dendio1]

All low EMS endings as well as the synthesis and control endings are not canon. The only canon ending is Destroy+ over 4000 ems. Shep wakes up only under those circumstances

[noobcannon]

Dendio1 wrote...

All low EMS endings as well as the synthesis and control endings are not canon. The only canon ending is Destroy+ over 4000 ems. Shep wakes up only under those circumstances

[daftPirate]

Gernbuster wrote...

daftPirate wrote...

Something I was wondering. The high vs low EMS destroy endings. One shows the reapers and their tech being destroyed, the other also shows Big Ben, the soldiers, and most of Earth reduced to cinders. How does this factory into Indoc. Theory?

Shepard lost hope. Low EMS leads only to destroy, which is definitly the worst option. The end movie u see represents the level of hope Shepard got left.

The Reapers want to indoctrinate Shep so they got a perfect infiltrator, everyone is trusting him. If your EMS is low, the Reapers may already have won in their oppinion and so they don't care so much about the indoctrination process. Thats why u got less possebilities and the godchild is quit offending.

SO basically you're saying Shepard knows what he has to do (Destroy the reapers), but has doesn't believe he can/that it will work (everything else is destoryed as well)?

[Gernbuster]

Dendio1 wrote...

All low EMS endings as well as the synthesis and control endings are not canon. The only canon ending is Destroy+ over 4000 ems. Shep wakes up only under those circumstances

What do u mean? I don't get your point sry ^^

[Vahilor]

Gernbuster wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

DarkValor wrote...

Regardless of everyone's opinion I think the majority can agree that the ending(s) were pretty bad.

You mean minority

I guess most of the player don't really care about the ending, I know 3 people who bought ME3 and never played ME1/2. They don't think the ending is great art, but they are quit ok with it. They already forgot ME at all I guess.
If u look at the fan community I am sure most fans disslike the ending.
But thats only my oppinion ^^

I think the Fan Base is still a big hunch ^^ and I know people that are not so hard involved into ME Universe or the games in general and still think the endings are pretty bad. Even some of my WoW guild pals watched the endings and agreed that the stuff shown there is wired and bad writen and that are partly people that never played any Mass Effect before.

[Stigweird85]

masster blaster wrote...

I know this is off the IT theory, but do you all find it funny that you actually meet EDI in ME1, but was that rouge AI or VI on the moon during one mission you receive from Hacket.That was reviled during the log data in Cerberus command base.

Also when you complete this mission your get a text box stating your processors were overloaded(or something) and this unlocks your shepards specialisation abilities. A way to evolve the character or something more?

My bet, probably just a mechanism to develop the character but still...

[Gernbuster]

Vahilor wrote...

Gernbuster wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

DarkValor wrote...

Regardless of everyone's opinion I think the majority can agree that the ending(s) were pretty bad.

You mean minority

I guess most of the player don't really care about the ending, I know 3 people who bought ME3 and never played ME1/2. They don't think the ending is great art, but they are quit ok with it. They already forgot ME at all I guess.
If u look at the fan community I am sure most fans disslike the ending.
But thats only my oppinion ^^

I think the Fan Base is still a big hunch ^^ and I know people that are not so hard involved into ME Universe or the games in general and still think the endings are pretty bad. Even some of my WoW guild pals watched the endings and agreed that the stuff shown there is wired and bad writen and that are partly people that never played any Mass Effect before.

Ok, lets say the minority likes the ending. mayority disslikes the ending, but most of both groups don't care about changes or maybe some DLCs.

[Stigweird85]

Baal Sagoth wrote...

schneeland wrote...

greywardencommander wrote...

[....]
True it can fit in with current endings because how would he know what happens but I like my idea better.
If noone quotes it read my wall of text in signature thread re. Psychology of endings and how I'd do DLC based on IDT regardless of final choice as it is
I've said before people with the codes could maybe access the ending for free because it was bought new (similar to Cerberus network in ME2) thus don't have to charge thus whole idea of that being a problem is moot.

Actually that makes me wonder how you would actually buy ME 3 used? I thought the copy is linked to your Origin account like forever?

Consoles. Dont have Origin and are bigger market.

In case this hasn't been answered yet(I'm about 9hrs behind on threads)

Consoles don't use Origin but do connect to it. That is how they can link the iPad/iPhone game to it? Your EA ID can be linked to your gamercard/psn id.

[Vahilor]

Gernbuster wrote...

Vahilor wrote...

Gernbuster wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

DarkValor wrote...

Regardless of everyone's opinion I think the majority can agree that the ending(s) were pretty bad.

You mean minority

I guess most of the player don't really care about the ending, I know 3 people who bought ME3 and never played ME1/2. They don't think the ending is great art, but they are quit ok with it. They already forgot ME at all I guess.
If u look at the fan community I am sure most fans disslike the ending.
But thats only my oppinion ^^

I think the Fan Base is still a big hunch ^^ and I know people that are not so hard involved into ME Universe or the games in general and still think the endings are pretty bad. Even some of my WoW guild pals watched the endings and agreed that the stuff shown there is wired and bad writen and that are partly people that never played any Mass Effect before.

Ok, lets say the minority likes the ending. mayority disslikes the ending, but most of both groups don't care about changes or maybe some DLCs.

But EA/Bioware want to sell DLCs. So the normal user only interested in the core game who doesn't matter for any DLCs is not the group EA/BW needs to sell DLCs.
The Fan Base is the main group buying DLCs and if you fan base is pissed cause you ignore them, there is no one left who buys any DLCs..

[Stigweird85]

ContraMan wrote...

I read a few pages ago and have read a few times now in regards to the argument about DLC and people with the lack of internet connection.

Now I'm going to try avoiding a rant or downplaying anyone who doesn't have luxury of internet service (it is a luxury, I'm not arguing nor am I trying to ****** people off) but I think one of the major drawbacks on any counter-argument regarding lack of internet connection is rather weak particularly on those who are PC players here. I have noticed a few times when my connection to the internet went on the fritz (dunno why) that it was IMPOSSIBLE to play the game because I had the "day one" DLC that came with the collector's edition tin.

If the case is that you can't even access the game because of the DLC limiting you from playing because of your internet connection, any DLC would be similar.

Please forgive me if I'm not doing something right in regards to guaranteeing the ability to play at all times regardless of connection but if the above is the case regardless of DLC it's a moot point.

I mentioned that before it is possible that content is already on the disk for console players, just awaiting activation. PC players need to be connected to the internet for Origin to work and it doesn't cost EA/Bioware money to offer a download(whereas Xbox and PS3 downloads require verification which can cost thousands of dollars)

[Gernbuster]

Vahilor wrote...

Gernbuster wrote...

Vahilor wrote...

Gernbuster wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

DarkValor wrote...

Regardless of everyone's opinion I think the majority can agree that the ending(s) were pretty bad.

You mean minority

I guess most of the player don't really care about the ending, I know 3 people who bought ME3 and never played ME1/2. They don't think the ending is great art, but they are quit ok with it. They already forgot ME at all I guess.
If u look at the fan community I am sure most fans disslike the ending.
But thats only my oppinion ^^

I think the Fan Base is still a big hunch ^^ and I know people that are not so hard involved into ME Universe or the games in general and still think the endings are pretty bad. Even some of my WoW guild pals watched the endings and agreed that the stuff shown there is wired and bad writen and that are partly people that never played any Mass Effect before.

Ok, lets say the minority likes the ending. mayority disslikes the ending, but most of both groups don't care about changes or maybe some DLCs.

But EA/Bioware want to sell DLCs. So the normal user only interested in the core game who doesn't matter for any DLCs is not the group EA/BW needs to sell DLCs.
The Fan Base is the main group buying DLCs and if you fan base is pissed cause you ignore them, there is no one left who buys any DLCs..

Thats why I believe in Bioware and the IDT xD
I see it the same way.

[Vahilor]

Gernbuster wrote...

Vahilor wrote...

Gernbuster wrote...

Vahilor wrote...

Gernbuster wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

DarkValor wrote...

Regardless of everyone's opinion I think the majority can agree that the ending(s) were pretty bad.

You mean minority

I guess most of the player don't really care about the ending, I know 3 people who bought ME3 and never played ME1/2. They don't think the ending is great art, but they are quit ok with it. They already forgot ME at all I guess.
If u look at the fan community I am sure most fans disslike the ending.
But thats only my oppinion ^^

I think the Fan Base is still a big hunch ^^ and I know people that are not so hard involved into ME Universe or the games in general and still think the endings are pretty bad. Even some of my WoW guild pals watched the endings and agreed that the stuff shown there is wired and bad writen and that are partly people that never played any Mass Effect before.

Ok, lets say the minority likes the ending. mayority disslikes the ending, but most of both groups don't care about changes or maybe some DLCs.

But EA/Bioware want to sell DLCs. So the normal user only interested in the core game who doesn't matter for any DLCs is not the group EA/BW needs to sell DLCs.
The Fan Base is the main group buying DLCs and if you fan base is pissed cause you ignore them, there is no one left who buys any DLCs..

Thats why I believe in Bioware and the IDT xD
I see it the same way.

The only thing I don't expect is, that the DLC will be for free and we have to pay for it ^^

[Arian Dynas]

In support of the point that Bioware's writers are all about details, been replaying Mass Effect 2. Samara recruitment mission, remember the Eclipse Merc you have the option to kill when she fake surrenders? Finding out afterward that shooting her was justified? Yeah. noticed this time that they established beforehand that ALL Eclipse Sisters only receive their uniform after an initiation murder. Heard it the first time, thought nothing of it. and then I play through again and....

[JustAidan]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Two things occured to me while reading this thread.

One, in over 900 pages, 20,000 post or more, I have yet to see one mod appear/and or make a statement of any kind, even the "keep it polite" kind (which, don't get me wrong, we seem to be doing an excellent job policing ourselves)

That fact alone says something. I'm not sure what, but moderators specifically avoiding this thread? Veeeeeeeery interesting.

Indeed, plus someone pointed out earlier that this thread hasn't been moved to fan fiction
Also, Jessica Merizan has linked to this thread twice from her twitter, once before and once after the ending outrage.

Modifié par JustAidan, 27 mars 2012 - 09:33 .

[RussiaTerminator]

My bears bite Bioware of ending ME 3 )))
Sorry for english

[Blackguard82]

I am guessing nobody noticed that the starchild is the kid that shepard fails to save and sees in his dreams? You can tell from the clothes outline. That is an indoctrination point too, right?

[OhLaLa808]

Blackguard82 wrote...

I am guessing nobody noticed that the starchild is the kid that shepard fails to save and sees in his dreams? You can tell from the clothes outline. That is an indoctrination point too, right?

that has been said over a million times....

[Lakeshow1986]

Yeah, how that is known without reading Shepard's mind is beyond me.

[nyrocron]

Blackguard82 wrote...

I am guessing nobody noticed that the starchild is the kid that shepard fails to save and sees in his dreams? You can tell from the clothes outline. That is an indoctrination point too, right?

Noo ofc nobody saw that. 

Modifié par nyrocron, 27 mars 2012 - 09:46 .