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[Kyzee]

emagover wrote...

Kyzee wrote...

(1) People have mentioned the return of Shepard's scars post beam attack. Well, evidently gender makes a difference on whether or not this happen (if you're a Paragon--can't report otherwise)! They showed up on my maleShep, but not my FemShep. I'm guessing that it's due to a carryover in coding from the default male Shep we saw in the demo, and the developers didn't catch it. Because otherwise . . . wtf? 

Does this happen to the default FemShep as well?

scars returned on my femshep:huh: though she is not default. i thought it was a bug but... '

Huh. Well . . . I guess my FemShep's just too sexy for the coding. 

Modifié par Kyzee, 27 mars 2012 - 11:46 .

[steve3194]

Its true that they probably wouldn't be announcing dlc so early if it wasn't planned.
It better not turn out to be some omega related dlc or worse multiplayer content.
Deal with the ending first

[waldstr18]

about the anderson stuff. he said he entered the beam after shepard, but came out somewhere different. and, he said the place is shifting.

for me that explains why he is there, why before me, and why i cant see the way he came in.

[zakaryzb]

Yeah the scar thing always bothered me because mine healed naturally since I was a paragon and had a "positive attitude" or what ever Chakwas says in ME2. So to have a beam hit me and that all intently went away just felt odd. If I had paid to make them go away that would have been one thing....

Modifié par zakaryzb, 27 mars 2012 - 11:47 .

[n00bsauce2010]

waldstr18 wrote...

i want to know what up with the keepers. no one explained anything about them.

i bet they were the masterminds behind all this.

They're agents of the reapers. Just like the collectors. Theory is that they are genetically modified just like the collectors. So basically they're indoctrinated. They send out the signal to the reapers when civilization reaches the citadel. this lets the reapers know that it is time to move in and reap some b*tches.

The protheans prevented the signal from being sent out though. That is why sovereign used saren to send out the signal to the reaper fleet in dark space.

[waldstr18]

talking about scars, she has no scars in the squad screen, though.

im talking about the scars she has when shes entering the beam. blood and everything.

Modifié par waldstr18, 27 mars 2012 - 11:48 .

[byne]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

i want to know what up with the keepers. no one explained anything about them.

i bet they were the masterminds behind all this.

They're agents of the reapers. Just like the collectors. Theory is that they are genetically modified just like the collectors. So basically they're indoctrinated. They send out the signal to the reapers when civilization reaches the citadel. this lets the reapers know that it is time to move in and reap some b*tches.

The protheans prevented the signal from being sent out though. That is why sovereign used saren to send out the signal to the reaper fleet in dark space.

One thing about the keepers that bugged me in the end is that its made pretty clear throughout the entire series that the keepers dont pay any attention to anything but their current task, and never pay attention to people, yet when Shepard comes through the beam at the end, the keeper in the tunnel turns and looks at her.

Seems kind of out of character for them.

[n00bsauce2010]

byne wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

i want to know what up with the keepers. no one explained anything about them.

i bet they were the masterminds behind all this.

They're agents of the reapers. Just like the collectors. Theory is that they are genetically modified just like the collectors. So basically they're indoctrinated. They send out the signal to the reapers when civilization reaches the citadel. this lets the reapers know that it is time to move in and reap some b*tches.

The protheans prevented the signal from being sent out though. That is why sovereign used saren to send out the signal to the reaper fleet in dark space.

One thing about the keepers that bugged me in the end is that its made pretty clear throughout the entire series that the keepers dont pay any attention to anything but their current task, and never pay attention to people, yet when Shepard comes through the beam at the end, the keeper in the tunnel turns and looks at her.

Seems kind of out of character for them.

I didn't even think about that. Yeah you're right because they only acknowledge keeping teh citadel, tight and clean. Again.. going back to the bodies in the hallway. They shouldn't have been there if the keepers task is to keep the citadel clear.

[ChuckieJ]

spz123 wrote...


@masseffect @PatrickWeekes did you feel pressured to change the ending, Isn't it important to stick to your guns on some things?


@satootaku We never said we were changing it We have ALWAYS had big plans for ME3. It isn't a response-It's been in the works

This makes me soooo happy to see. 
Link to Tweet

[Allaiya]

Idk if someone mentioned earlier about the tweets by the mass effect twitter page but I thought they were interesting.
[/b]
masseffect

@satootaku We never said we were changing it We have ALWAYS had
big plans for ME3. It isn't a response-It's been in the works

And just now,


Kaladur
@masseffect Whats with the ending? It was confusing and very dreamlike was it supposed to be like that?


masseffect
@kaladur The ending was as we intended, so yes?

Modifié par mrfinke, 27 mars 2012 - 11:58 .

[zalfy]

Zuka999 wrote...

So, uh, has anyone figured out why the Reapers happily use the Geth and encourage them to attack organic civilization if their purpose is to stop synthetics from ending organic life?


Anyone?


...

Mind blown.......

Modifié par zalfy, 28 mars 2012 - 12:01 .

[legaldinho]

mrfinke wrote...

Idk if someone mentioned earlier about the tweets by the mass effect twitter page but I thought they were interesting.
[/b]
masseffect

@satootaku We never said we were changing it We have ALWAYS had
big plans for ME3. It isn't a response-It's been in the works

And just now,


Kaladur
@masseffect Whats with the ending? It was confusing and very dreamlike was it supposed to be like that?


masseffect
@kaladur The ending was as we intended, so yes?

Gawd, i really cannot take that twitter account. Who is it run by, Avina?

[waldstr18]

shepard opens the citadell, thats how hacket knows she is up there. or at the least he knows someone is up there, and since its shepards mission, he assumes its her.

[Sire Styx]

I'm not sure if I understand what you mean about the scars, but after being hit by a laser I'm assuming it's open up cuts/made new ones. They glow because you are still part cyborg after being rebuilt in ME2.

[n00bsauce2010]

legaldinho wrote...

mrfinke wrote...

Idk if someone mentioned earlier about the tweets by the mass effect twitter page but I thought they were interesting.
[/b]
masseffect

@satootaku We never said we were changing it We have ALWAYS had
big plans for ME3. It isn't a response-It's been in the works

And just now,


Kaladur
@masseffect Whats with the ending? It was confusing and very dreamlike was it supposed to be like that?


masseffect
@kaladur The ending was as we intended, so yes?

Gawd, i really cannot take that twitter account. Who is it run by, Avina?

Can someone give a link to those tweets?

[ComradeNapoleon]

waldstr18 wrote...

about the anderson stuff. he said he entered the beam after shepard, but came out somewhere different. and, he said the place is shifting.

for me that explains why he is there, why before me, and why i cant see the way he came in.

If he entered after Shepard, why don't the Hammer forces seem him moving about? Hell, why don't they see you for that matter?  The Hammer radio says that nobody survived, and that nobody made it to the beam - woudn't they see him enter it? I also don't buy that the place can shift that radically - there is clearly one one way on to the control area, you'd have to restructure that whole area in a way physically impossible to allow a second entrance (that's invisible by the way )

[ComradeNapoleon]

waldstr18 wrote...

shepard opens the citadell, thats how hacket knows she is up there. or at the least he knows someone is up there, and since its shepards mission, he assumes its her.

He doesn't ask whether anyone is there, he specifically refers to Shepard in a confident manner that should be impossible, seeing as they apparently don't think anyone made it to the beam.

Also, it's not Shepard's mission, it's Anderson's.

[Devos]

beetlebailey123 wrote...

Maybe your right we are looking for answers because the ending is bad. Remember though the Dev's did say, "lots of speculation." Isn't this speculation.

Sure but people are vehemently (to the point of getting snarky when it's challenged) defending a very specific theory, which if correct is an even bigger betrayal of the player; for it to work on multiple occasions the player is simply lied to, not just in dialogue but what they shown. There is no set-up or pay-off to that if correct. What the theory offers is a soft retcon which is very appealing to a fanbase that wants the ending changed. It certainly doesn't offer a more satisfying or better crafted arc.

I'm all for speculation but this whole indoctrination thing is actually counter productive to that because it has rail-roaded speculation. When faced with a flaw in the theory people try to contrive an explanation ("we have dismissed that claim") and believe there are no plot holes rather than try speculating something different.

Also excuse no further reply, this thread moves too fast to follow!

[emagover]

ComradeNapoleon wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

shepard opens the citadell, thats how hacket knows she is up there. or at the least he knows someone is up there, and since its shepards mission, he assumes its her.

He doesn't ask whether anyone is there, he specifically refers to Shepard in a confident manner that should be impossible, seeing as they apparently don't think anyone made it to the beam.

Also, it's not Shepard's mission, it's Anderson's.

and how does the radio manage to work at all? shep's armor is all damaged, there is no way the radio could work after that

[n00bsauce2010]

Devos wrote...

beetlebailey123 wrote...

Maybe your right we are looking for answers because the ending is bad. Remember though the Dev's did say, "lots of speculation." Isn't this speculation.

Sure but people are vehemently (to the point of getting snarky when it's challenged) defending a very specific theory, which if correct is an even bigger betrayal of the player; for it to work on multiple occasions the player is simply lied to, not just in dialogue but what they shown. There is no set-up or pay-off to that if correct. What the theory offers is a soft retcon which is very appealing to a fanbase that wants the ending changed. It certainly doesn't offer a more satisfying or better crafted arc.

I'm all for speculation but this whole indoctrination thing is actually counter productive to that because it has rail-roaded speculation. When faced with a flaw in the theory people try to contrive an explanation ("we have dismissed that claim") and believe there are no plot holes rather than try speculating something different.

Also excuse no further reply, this thread moves too fast to follow!

It's as if you're all knowing. Your statement suggests you know all the plot holes and arguments that we "dismiss" What exactly do we dismiss? Nothing has been dismissed IMO.. so if you could englighten us while also making sense. please do so. How exactly is it counter-productive? ****ing about the ending is counter-productive.. we're just trying to construct why the devs did certain things. instead of just saying "nope.. ending sucks.. change it" and whining like a b*tch about it like you and many other people are.

[Golferguy758]

waldstr18 wrote...

shepard opens the citadell, thats how hacket knows she is up there. or at the least he knows someone is up there, and since its shepards mission, he assumes its her.

He heard that everyone was wiped out by Harbinger. It'd be different if Hackett said "Whoever is in there"

[ComradeNapoleon]

Welp, it'd be great to stay up all night and talk about this stuff (it's 01:13 here in the UK), but I need my sleep. I'll see if I can get some more shots of the bridge area, as was requested, at some point tomorrow. Maybe...

[n00bsauce2010]

Golferguy758 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

shepard opens the citadell, thats how hacket knows she is up there. or at the least he knows someone is up there, and since its shepards mission, he assumes its her.

He heard that everyone was wiped out by Harbinger. It'd be different if Hackett said "Whoever is in there"

Sure... if hackett saw the citadel open.. why would he automatically assume that shepard was the one opening it? When there are no previous attempts to communicate with him? I would understand if hackett had confirmation it was shepard. But i'm assuming hackett heard the radio chatter "Retread, forces have been decimated" therefore to him.. shepard is dead and no one made it up.

[ComradeNapoleon]

Golferguy758 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

shepard opens the citadell, thats how hacket knows she is up there. or at the least he knows someone is up there, and since its shepards mission, he assumes its her.

He heard that everyone was wiped out by Harbinger. It'd be different if Hackett said "Whoever is in there"

OH OH, one last comment - was it just me, or does Shepard's response to Hackett ("what do you need me to do?" " I can't...I don't see" etc.) seem similar to the blearly responses you'd give to someone trying to wake you up? Almost definitely not important, I just liked the thought

[waldstr18]

radio is easy explained. ear buds .. budds? buddy system? the things you put in your ear for communication.

another thing. i just got the star child treatment, walked back, and looking down, my sky box is broken down there. ooohh... and i can see the level corners where the skybox walls meet. quake 1 all over again.