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Was the ending a hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory


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#23901
Lyria

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Just noticed something....
I'm replaying the game to get the overload achievement.
After the kid, and after Shepard and Anderson get ammo, you go out a window.
Right after you hear Anderson contact the Normandy, a reaper comes down on the water.
A few seconds after that you hear a reaper voice say, "Trust us!"
Is it just me or is that weird....

Modifié par protognosis, 28 mars 2012 - 01:32 .


#23902
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n00bsauce2010 wrote...

We do know from twitter posts. Unless they're lieing. That bioware was already working on DLC pre-release for the game.


I'm absolutely convinced that they planned this all along.

May not have been the best way to go about it, but I'm betting that they sell more copies by doing this than if they had just had the true ending on the disc to begin with. And all the people who are ****ing louder than they ever thought they could about how BioWare is so horrible and that they will never buy another BioWare game again? One: they're a (very) vocal minority (and a small one at that), and two: most of them will buy the DLC anyway. I'm betting that most people who made these claims will be lining up on release date to buy DragonAge 3 or Mass Effect 4 or Jade Empire 2 or whatever game BioWare comes out with next.

All pub is good pub. Doesn't matter if they lose a few fans, because they will have gained so many more.

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protognosis wrote...

Just noticed something....
I'm replaying the game to get the overload achievement.
After the kid, and after Shepard and Anderson get ammo, you go out a window.
Right after you hear Anderson contact the Normandy, a reaper comes down on the water.
A few seconds after that you hear a reaper voice say, "Trust us!"
Is it just me or is that weird....


I do not recall that...:?

#23904
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IronSabbath88 wrote...

Excuse the horrible cropping job.

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Alright, so as you can see, Anderson is grabbing what LOOKS like his right side, but is actually his left. The same left side Shepard can be seen favouring and bleeding later on.


Yeah. Shepard isn't looking in a mirror. He shoots Anderson in Anderson's left side, and gets a wound in his left side. How do people get this wrong? It almost seems that the ID theory's loudest detractors not only could not put two and two together without help, but would actively argue that it was not possible to add two and two in the first place.

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protognosis wrote...

Just noticed something....
I'm replaying the game to get the overload achievement.
After the kid, and after Shepard and Anderson get ammo, you go out a window.
Right after you hear Anderson contact the Normandy, a reaper comes down on the water.
A few seconds after that you hear a reaper voice say, "Trust us!"
Is it just me or is that weird....


never heard that o_O do you have a video of that moment?

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Anyone else just hitting F5 all day long on this thread?

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CaliGuy033 wrote...

"Indoctrination Theory" should be renamed "cognitive dissonance-induced mental gymnastics from entitled fans" theory.


Trolls will be trolls...:whistle:

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now I know what f5 does

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byne wrote...

byne wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Hell, you don't even have to quote Bastila.

Quote Harbinger himself!

"Preserve Shepard's body if possible"


Come to think of it, wasnt Harbinger the name of the ship that docked at Peragus and brought all the Sith in KotOR 2?

/tinfoilhat


Expanding on this crazy theory of mine, remember what the jedi council said about the exile at the end of KotOR 2?

"Have you noticed that when you act, others follow? Those that travel with you, they follow you, without question. Without hesitation. Against their instincts, and sometimes against their sense."

The Exile was totally indoctrinating people.

Clearly he then rebuilt the destroyed Harbinger, uploaded his conciousness into the onboard computer, and spent the next few thousand years watching HK-47 run amok, and then saw the droids used in the Clone Wars.

Deciding that the galaxy he was in was unable to be saved, he ventured to a galaxy far far away, and found the Milky Way Galaxy. He sent welcome signals to all spacefaring life, asking them to board his ship, and while aboard, they were indoctrinated. He used them to start the first cycle, and millions of years later, here we are.

STILL MAKES MORE SENSE THAN THE CURRENT ENDINGS TOO <_<

Man, I have too much time on my hands.


Yes, what Byne said. Wait, wua..?

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:o

#23910
Dance Craze

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I bet the DLC is like shepards trial or something lol

Also: The theory has moved across games? haha

Modifié par Dance Craze, 28 mars 2012 - 01:41 .


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Dance Craze wrote...

now I know what f5 does


HAHA me too!!

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protognosis wrote...

Just noticed something....
I'm replaying the game to get the overload achievement.
After the kid, and after Shepard and Anderson get ammo, you go out a window.
Right after you hear Anderson contact the Normandy, a reaper comes down on the water.
A few seconds after that you hear a reaper voice say, "Trust us!"
Is it just me or is that weird....


I'm gonna have to replay ME3 with my headphones on this time...

edit: At the above two posters.... I just clicked F5 too! lmfao

Modifié par Sgt Reed 24, 28 mars 2012 - 01:40 .


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You know out of this whole controversy what  I'm going to find the most amusing? If it turns out that we're right and IT is how they go, the sheer amount of ass kissing people are going to end up doing to Bioware. It should be interesting to watch

Modifié par yagaelvin, 28 mars 2012 - 01:44 .


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WAIT A SECOND.

... you gotta be kidding me...

Did people seriously not notice this?

Remember the gun you carried with you all the way up to the Citadel, shot "Anderson" with it, maybe shot TIM with it.. you know.. that same gun you have with you when you meet Starchild?

Why dont you have it when you're crawling towards the console? Why dont you have it when you're getting up to talk to Starchild?

Why does it appear in your hand again when you're about to make your choice?!

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IronSabbath88 wrote...

WAIT A SECOND.

... you gotta be kidding me...

Did people seriously not notice this?

Remember the gun you carried with you all the way up to the Citadel, shot "Anderson" with it, maybe shot TIM with it.. you know.. that same gun you have with you when you meet Starchild?

Why dont you have it when you're crawling towards the console? Why dont you have it when you're getting up to talk to Starchild?

Why does it appear in your hand again when you're about to make your choice?!


It was holstered?

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*pokes head in thread*

Yep. I still believe this was planned all along and BioWare is being totally awesome with some amazing trick up their sleeve.

*leave thread and goes back to work*

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I swear, that Keeper in D24 keeps looking at me...it knows something dammit! We need to get Blasto on the case to interrogate it...lookin at me funny, I'm onto you D24 Keeper!! :P

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benben84 wrote...

Anyone else just hitting F5 all day long on this thread?


yep *_*

#23919
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yagaelvin wrote...

You know out of this whole controversy I'm going to find the most amusing? If it turns out that we're right and IT is how they go, the sheer amount of ass kissing people are going to end up doing to Bioware. It should be interesting to watch


Indeed it shall. It'll be a codex moment. :devil:

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IronSabbath88 wrote...

WAIT A SECOND.

... you gotta be kidding me...

Did people seriously not notice this?

Remember the gun you carried with you all the way up to the Citadel, shot "Anderson" with it, maybe shot TIM with it.. you know.. that same gun you have with you when you meet Starchild?

Why dont you have it when you're crawling towards the console? Why dont you have it when you're getting up to talk to Starchild?

Why does it appear in your hand again when you're about to make your choice?!


Sorry, it's my motivational hour again.

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Please bear with me.

#23921
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yagaelvin wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

WAIT A SECOND.

... you gotta be kidding me...

Did people seriously not notice this?

Remember the gun you carried with you all the way up to the Citadel, shot "Anderson" with it, maybe shot TIM with it.. you know.. that same gun you have with you when you meet Starchild?

Why dont you have it when you're crawling towards the console? Why dont you have it when you're getting up to talk to Starchild?

Why does it appear in your hand again when you're about to make your choice?!


It was holstered?


Except that's not it. You can't see it holstered.

#23922
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IronSabbath88 wrote...

yagaelvin wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

WAIT A SECOND.

... you gotta be kidding me...

Did people seriously not notice this?

Remember the gun you carried with you all the way up to the Citadel, shot "Anderson" with it, maybe shot TIM with it.. you know.. that same gun you have with you when you meet Starchild?

Why dont you have it when you're crawling towards the console? Why dont you have it when you're getting up to talk to Starchild?

Why does it appear in your hand again when you're about to make your choice?!


It was holstered?


Except that's not it. You can't see it holstered.


Then...... :wizard:

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I don't get why they are letting this theory get so much attention if they have no intention of doing anything differently to the ending and just "clarifying" it. Its nearly 1,000 pages long. This is just torture if they let this go this long and they don't have anything worthwhile to show us next month.

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lex0r11 wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

WAIT A SECOND.

... you gotta be kidding me...

Did people seriously not notice this?

Remember the gun you carried with you all the way up to the Citadel, shot "Anderson" with it, maybe shot TIM with it.. you know.. that same gun you have with you when you meet Starchild?

Why dont you have it when you're crawling towards the console? Why dont you have it when you're getting up to talk to Starchild?

Why does it appear in your hand again when you're about to make your choice?!


Sorry, it's my motivational hour again.

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Please bear with me.


holy sh*t i'm dieing laughing at this. SPAAACE MAGIC! hahahaha

#23925
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Does anyone else think the Carnifex was selected (as opposed to Shep's usual Predator) specifically to make you notice the unlimited ammo?