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Was the ending a hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory


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lex0r11

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DuskRose wrote...

lex0r, how many of those posters you got?



Well, i had EDI hack Joker's extranet account while the galaxy was still functional.



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ZETABYTES i tell you.

But jokes aside, there is actually a big motivational thread here in the same board.
I'm shamelessly stealing from all of them.

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Tiberius Gracchus

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believe it may have been posted, but this video is still the best compilation of evidence.

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i see i have clearly overstayed my welcome, so i better leave.

ill be back as soon as bioware declares your theory valid or, which is more likely, invalid.

fun and joy.

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masster blaster wrote...

If you are a a fan of ME, and you say IT is bull, then what evidence do you all have to present to all the IT believers. I am trying to not sound mean, but I am tired of you dam accusations without presenting any evidences that it was not real. All you really can come up with is that Shepard survived the explosion on the Citidle, and that the Cable is Citidle made. What kind of evidences is that. If this was a murder trial I think that you would lose without evidnces to back up your statements.

Sorry if this pisses you all off, but you are pissing of all of us about the "Ending Sucks", and IT is a bunch of bull created by people how can't let go about the ending. So if you still want to be rude, and keep us getting mad, then come back here and bring more evidence about why IT is bull.

And if you are having second thoughts then read the first page, and see what we are talking about please.


I think those that refuse to agree with the indoctrination theory (in my opinion) just refuse to think that they may have been tricked, its a pride issue i believe, this would explain why so many who disagree are so angry about it...<_<

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Zuka999 wrote...

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This excites you... why? That says nothing. For all we know, they aren't changing the ending at all. They're just adding in DLC like Omega or some crap.


Or no need to change existing ending because they really aren't the endings to begin with.

Could also be extra scenes that make the ending make sense which either way I'm for.My biggest problem is the Joker running away /squadmates exiting the ship that were with you in the final mission.

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waldstr18 wrote...

i see i have clearly overstayed my welcome, so i better leave.

ill be back as soon as bioware declares your theory valid or, which is more likely, invalid.

fun and joy.


Thank the Catalyst kid. My wish was granted.

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Zuka999 wrote...

Cucobr wrote...

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This excites you... why? That says nothing. For all we know, they aren't changing the ending at all. They're just adding in DLC like Omega or some crap.


Because the way it is said, ME's twitter implies that it could be further ending expanded related content, judging by how this Kyle Conway only brought up the story and its ending. If you are in favor of the indoc theory this would make sense.

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Asari wrote...

Yeah I dont like the idea that the ending would be indoctrination, but it seems most likely.

Even if the ending is indoctrination, why is that the only ending? IMO it should be ONE of the perhaps bad endings.

I also get the feeling that they want to continue the ME series and this ending makes it perfect to follow up..for some reason..


wrong.
Indoctrination theory IS NOT AN ENDING. Never was.
IT has only one purpose: make sense to everything. There is no plot hole.
But is not the end of the game. The Reapers are still there.

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byne wrote...

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again i said it once i'll say it again, i wouldnt rub it in their face if its true, it only human nature to disagree, and thats what makes everyone unique :D


The only person whose face I shall rub it in is the face of my friend who told me not to start a thread asking if it was a hallucination, claiming 'No one will even respond to your stupid thread.'

He totally has it coming.

Totally.



My new signature :D

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n00bsauce2010 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

i see i have clearly overstayed my welcome, so i better leave.

ill be back as soon as bioware declares your theory valid or, which is more likely, invalid.

fun and joy.


Thank the Catalyst kid. My wish was granted.


Can't stop beating a dead horse, huh?

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DuskRose wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

i see i have clearly overstayed my welcome, so i better leave.

ill be back as soon as bioware declares your theory valid or, which is more likely, invalid.

fun and joy.


Thank the Catalyst kid. My wish was granted.


Can't stop beating a dead horse, huh?

won't have to anymore. he is gone.



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I laugh of this.

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Time to put a little more fuel on the fire. Change your squad's outfits to their alternates. Guess what outfit they show up in at the ending cinematic? The default.

Every other in-game cinematic they always show your squad in the uniform that they are given at the char select screen. Or at least in every cinematic that I've seen.

Remember, these are not pre-rendered cinematics, these are rendered using the in-game engine.

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felipejiraya wrote...

I laugh of this.

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This is so true.  Why didn't I wonder about this sooner?

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Golferguy758 wrote...

Time to put a little more fuel on the fire. Change your squad's outfits to their alternates. Guess what outfit they show up in at the ending cinematic? The default.

Every other in-game cinematic they always show your squad in the uniform that they are given at the char select screen. Or at least in every cinematic that I've seen.

Remember, these are not pre-rendered cinematics, these are rendered using the in-game engine.


What are you saying exactly? :wizard::wizard:?? Or something more sinister?

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Dwailing wrote...

felipejiraya wrote...

I laugh of this.

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This is so true.  Why didn't I wonder about this sooner?


It's Joker.  How much you wanna bet he has like rear view mirrors on the Normandy  too

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Golferguy758 wrote...

Time to put a little more fuel on the fire. Change your squad's outfits to their alternates. Guess what outfit they show up in at the ending cinematic? The default.

Every other in-game cinematic they always show your squad in the uniform that they are given at the char select screen. Or at least in every cinematic that I've seen.

Remember, these are not pre-rendered cinematics, these are rendered using the in-game engine.


Not getting what it proves 

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Dwailing wrote...

felipejiraya wrote...

I laugh of this.

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This is so true.  Why didn't I wonder about this sooner?

Lol I think he is just checking if the ship is in flames yet, not looking to change space lanes :wizard:

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I think the problem is people don't understand the Indoctrination in ME3. The reapers were trying to Indoctrinate Shepard and Failed after the scene with Anderson and TIM. That is why Shepard got to ride on Neo's elevator.

That being said hopefully the DLC allows us to circumvent the original endings if we choose and do something else.

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LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Time to put a little more fuel on the fire. Change your squad's outfits to their alternates. Guess what outfit they show up in at the ending cinematic? The default.

Every other in-game cinematic they always show your squad in the uniform that they are given at the char select screen. Or at least in every cinematic that I've seen.

Remember, these are not pre-rendered cinematics, these are rendered using the in-game engine.


Not getting what it proves 

 I will go out on a limb and say that Shepard is dreaming about what she remembers her crew wearing when they first met in the episode--it would be hard to remember what your battle buddies clothing looked like when you have been knocked out (assuming indoctrination theory is correct).

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Golferguy758 wrote...

Time to put a little more fuel on the fire. Change your squad's outfits to their alternates. Guess what outfit they show up in at the ending cinematic? The default.

Every other in-game cinematic they always show your squad in the uniform that they are given at the char select screen. Or at least in every cinematic that I've seen.

Remember, these are not pre-rendered cinematics, these are rendered using the in-game engine.


I should point out that when on the Normandy your squad mates wear their default uniforms, too.  Although, I find it doubtful that your squad mates would decide to switch back to their regular uniforms just to step out of the crashed ship.

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Cucobr wrote...

Asari wrote...

Yeah I dont like the idea that the ending would be indoctrination, but it seems most likely.

Even if the ending is indoctrination, why is that the only ending? IMO it should be ONE of the perhaps bad endings.

I also get the feeling that they want to continue the ME series and this ending makes it perfect to follow up..for some reason..


wrong.
Indoctrination theory IS NOT AN ENDING. Never was.
IT has only one purpose: make sense to everything. There is no plot hole.
But is not the end of the game. The Reapers are still there.


Good point!

But that means there's a fourth game coming OR it's really unfinished.. really would have hoped for this game to be the last :?

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tjc2 wrote...

I think the problem is people don't understand the Indoctrination in ME3. The reapers were trying to Indoctrinate Shepard and Failed after the scene with Anderson and TIM. That is why Shepard got to ride on Neo's elevator.

That being said hopefully the DLC allows us to circumvent the original endings if we choose and do something else.


That what I believe might happen which would keep the endings as they were , with adding new endings.If not then the previous ending get extra scenes , one of these will be right.

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LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Time to put a little more fuel on the fire. Change your squad's outfits to their alternates. Guess what outfit they show up in at the ending cinematic? The default.

Every other in-game cinematic they always show your squad in the uniform that they are given at the char select screen. Or at least in every cinematic that I've seen.

Remember, these are not pre-rendered cinematics, these are rendered using the in-game engine.


Not getting what it proves 


It was a bit of an observation more than "proving" anything. But it shows that the devs made a conscious effort to keep your squad in their traditional outfits.

I believe that this furthers the point that it's in his mind because Shepard is meant to see them in their normal outfits. The additional outfits are for the player. The conscious act of NOT having them leave the SR2 in their alternate costumes is meant to be another flag for the player in that somethign isn't right. 

Why would this be the ONE time that they don't use the alternate constumes in a in-game cinematic?

Bit of a stretch, but it was just somethign interesting I noticed.

When I look at indoctrination theory I don't look necessarily at lore stuff. I look at technical aspects of the game. Conscious actions of the developers to make something "different" stand out to me. I would have paid no mind to this observation if the game bounced back and forth using alternate costumes and normal ones throughout the game.

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RorickHuon wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

felipejiraya wrote...

I laugh of this.

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This is so true.  Why didn't I wonder about this sooner?

Lol I think he is just checking if the ship is in flames yet, not looking to change space lanes :wizard:


Damn those blind spots. At least he uses his blinker.