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[Martukis]

bigstig wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

You also no what would be funny if Shepard found out that His father was your Gray warden from Dragon Age , and Shepard's mother is Morrigan.

I know this isn't about IT theory but I really am trying to just stay in there for Bioware's big speech about ME3 ending on April 6th.

Not as far fetched as you may think, remember Donovan had a statue of an ogre from DA in Kasumi's loyalty mission. Proof. Mass Effect 2 is nothing more than an illusion that you get after drinking darkspawn blood during the grey warden joining ceremony. 


Seriously though just an easter egg for fans

 I dunno, what Sandhal does to that ogre in DA2 which is "not enchantment" strongly resembles stasis to me. Was Sandhal the first biotic? But yeah, probably easter eggs.

[Spiderman_2028]

Martukis wrote...]

 There is something of a three word difference - if you destroyed the geth, there isn't "and also the geth" added to the destroy dialogue. You can check http://mod.gib.me/ma...3/testdump2.txt for conditional dialogues, but I know from experience about that one, too. Hard to see any signfigance in that, and there doesn't seem to be any difference between destroying the quarians and making peace between geth and quarians, which seems strange.

Cool. Was more for my own curiosity than anything. Makes sense that he makes no mention of the Geth if they're all dead/deactivated/RROD or whatever you wanna call it... Thanks muchly!

[n00bsauce2010]

Martukis wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Spiderman_2028 wrote...

First post here- but I've been lurking all week long...(!)

If you choose the Quarians over the Geth on Rannoch- does the Destory option change at all? Seems to me if you are willing to write the Geth off at that point, telling you the destroy option will kill them wouldn't phase you at all... Especially since the Quarians Already wiped them out (or so I've read... I made them kiss and make up )

I've beaten the game once with letting the quarians die and once letting the geth die. The dialogue of the Catalyst kid is identical. But I never remember him mentioning the geth on either one. I couldn't make peace between them. I did a few things wrong in ME2 apparently. 

 There is something of a three word difference - if you destroyed the geth, there isn't "and also the geth" added to the destroy dialogue. You can check http://mod.gib.me/ma...3/testdump2.txt for conditional dialogues, but I know from experience about that one, too. Hard to see any signfigance in that, and there doesn't seem to be any difference between destroying the quarians and making peace between geth and quarians, which seems strange.

 As to Jessica Merizan: She is a community manager, iirc, and she has been a kind and helpful voice, but has always insisted that her opinions/statements are NOT those of the devs, nor can/does she have insight into the specifics of the future plans for the Mass Effect universe - though she stopped talking much about Mass Effect on the twitte and forums, likely because people were taking her comments as gospel/canon truth and/or issues bioware may have had with that perception.

True. We don't actually know anything regarding whether or not her
information is canon or just a huge attempt at trolling. But I think
it's kinda far fetched to think she doesn't have some kind of
information about the development of the game. Community managers for
big titles like this one always know about the development process. So
It just makes me think she does too.

[JustAidan]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

JustAidan wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Well even atoms cannot be combined at will. Not all atoms fit together with all others no matter hwo hard you might try, this is best exemplified with the noble gasses who dont interact with anything.

*snipped other bits*

Actually there is chemistry that examines noble gasses that has started up in recent years, I don't actually study that branch myself so I can't give you more detail but it is something that is being explored. With regards to fitting together elements if you are just trying to combine two elements you are not likely to get anywhere. More complicated structures can allow for very strange combinations of elements and chemistry. These manner of effects are being examined for possible uses such as producing Oxygen and Hydrogen from Water. Producing O and H from water is actually straight forward and simply requires an intense applied potential to drive the reaction, for practical purposes this is rather uselss since it has a very high energy cost, far more than you would gain by using O and H as fuel sources. Instead current methods are examining complex structures that can produce H and O from H2O by photo-chemically driven thermodynamical neutral or favourable methods.

A lot of naturally occuring chemistry can be quite extraordinary, such as the current suggestion that photosynthesis makes use of quantum mechanical effects to reduce the energy cost or that human brains are also making use of similar effects, under more extreme conditions found in the less hospitable locations have produced very strange forms of life. Most of our day-to-day experiences don't really show this as most forms of life we encounter are pretty similar due to comparitive evolution, count how many animals you know that have ribcages for example.

Yeah okay, I was just going by my pretty basic understanding of it all

But still doesnt change the fact that Synthesis as described by the godchild is utterly impossible.

I wouldn't say impossible, I would however say it is a load of rubbish. If we are assuming that synthetic life means using inorganic components (such as metals) humans already use metals that are extremely important to our metabolisim though they occur in very minature quanties compared to Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen and Nitrogen. The obvious example is Iron, which forms the central part of hemoglobin and the basis for our oxygen transfer mechanism, more complicated answers would be our nerve system which works off a active potential produced by potassium ions.

My point is that there is really no difference from an incredibly complicated machine like 'organic' bodies (philosophy aside ;D) and a 'synthetic' body.

This is actually one of the themes running through Mass Effect 3: Accepting diversity and working together, we have the geth species are fairly sympathetic characters with our main exposure being the character Legion, he displays several natural traits in 'organic' species such as when he wears some of Shepard's Armour (Did he respect Shepard because Shepard fought the Reapers, did Legion draw strenght from Shepard's example?) and when Legions weapon of choice is that used by the first Geth to defend its fellows against the Quarians.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Zubi Fett wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Zubi Fett wrote...

Chaosbrain wrote...

Just found something on twitter... Don't know if it's already posted but I thought it would be nice to see
EDIT: doesn't seem to work atm...crappy laptop.. I'm posting the link instead
https://twitter.com/...092874986631168

And whos that? some one who works on Bioware?

Jessica Merizan is a community manager at Bioware(by this i mean with the devalop studio). She has been making vague comments like that one illuding towards something bigger since all of this started (and before If I am not mistaken) as well linking to this thread twice as answers to questions regarding the ending if I recall correctly.

Thank you for the answer.

But, do we know she has any "contact" with Bioware? If not, her comments will be irrelevant.

EDIT: I did read wrong, thought you say she was a moderator here(Dont know where i see that ROFL).

But i still i have a doubt, being community manager is the "Job" or part of the job. I mean, she can be a enviroment artis but also have the task of the community manager, or her job could be to be the community manager.

Hope i make the last part clear, looks like a mess!!!

Her exact job at the moment within Bioware is Community & Social Media Manager.

So i would guess it is her job to handle the info given to us and other media.

[Kanon777]

Zubi Fett wrote...

Thank you for the answer.

But, do we know she has any "contact" with Bioware? If not, her comments will be irrelevant.

EDIT: I did read wrong, thought you say she was a moderator here(Dont know where i see that ROFL).

But i still i have a doubt, being community manager is the "Job" or part of the job. I mean, she can be a enviroment artis but also have the task of the community manager, or her job could be to be the community manager.

Hope i make the last part clear, looks like a mess!!!

She played ME3 for the first time in january. She is probably a QA as well or gets early copies of the game (and possibly DLCs)

[n00bsauce2010]

Martukis wrote...

bigstig wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

You also no what would be funny if Shepard found out that His father was your Gray warden from Dragon Age , and Shepard's mother is Morrigan.

I know this isn't about IT theory but I really am trying to just stay in there for Bioware's big speech about ME3 ending on April 6th.

Not as far fetched as you may think, remember Donovan had a statue of an ogre from DA in Kasumi's loyalty mission. Proof. Mass Effect 2 is nothing more than an illusion that you get after drinking darkspawn blood during the grey warden joining ceremony. 


Seriously though just an easter egg for fans

 I dunno, what Sandhal does to that ogre in DA2 which is "not enchantment" strongly resembles stasis to me. Was Sandhal the first biotic? But yeah, probably easter eggs.

Can't get the image to post. but theres a funny sandal picture regarding "space magic"

Modifié par n00bsauce2010, 28 mars 2012 - 11:17 .

[Martukis]

I imagine she does too, but I imagine it is prudence on her part to make sure no one banks too much on what she is saying. It has been discussed earlier in the thread, but it is not beyond imagining that some of the employees/twitter users might have significant/some knowledge regarding this, but that a form of non-disclosure agreement might prevent anything that could be seen as disclosure or discussion of sensitive topics.

 re N00bsauce: oh yeah, you posted that not too long ago...

Modifié par Martukis, 28 mars 2012 - 11:18 .

[Zubi Fett]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Zubi Fett wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Zubi Fett wrote...

Chaosbrain wrote...

Just found something on twitter... Don't know if it's already posted but I thought it would be nice to see
EDIT: doesn't seem to work atm...crappy laptop.. I'm posting the link instead
https://twitter.com/...092874986631168

And whos that? some one who works on Bioware?

Jessica Merizan is a community manager at Bioware(by this i mean with the devalop studio). She has been making vague comments like that one illuding towards something bigger since all of this started (and before If I am not mistaken) as well linking to this thread twice as answers to questions regarding the ending if I recall correctly.

Thank you for the answer.

But, do we know she has any "contact" with Bioware? If not, her comments will be irrelevant.

EDIT: I did read wrong, thought you say she was a moderator here(Dont know where i see that ROFL).

But i still i have a doubt, being community manager is the "Job" or part of the job. I mean, she can be a enviroment artis but also have the task of the community manager, or her job could be to be the community manager.

Hope i make the last part clear, looks like a mess!!!

Her exact job at the moment within Bioware is Community & Social Media Manager.

So i would guess it is her job to handle the info given to us and other media.

Thank you

[Kanon777]

She also hinted that the endings made her upset (not angry, but kinda depressed) but with later got over it after reading the indoc theory

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

JustAidan wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

JustAidan wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Well even atoms cannot be combined at will. Not all atoms fit together with all others no matter hwo hard you might try, this is best exemplified with the noble gasses who dont interact with anything.

*snipped other bits*

Actually there is chemistry that examines noble gasses that has started up in recent years, I don't actually study that branch myself so I can't give you more detail but it is something that is being explored. With regards to fitting together elements if you are just trying to combine two elements you are not likely to get anywhere. More complicated structures can allow for very strange combinations of elements and chemistry. These manner of effects are being examined for possible uses such as producing Oxygen and Hydrogen from Water. Producing O and H from water is actually straight forward and simply requires an intense applied potential to drive the reaction, for practical purposes this is rather uselss since it has a very high energy cost, far more than you would gain by using O and H as fuel sources. Instead current methods are examining complex structures that can produce H and O from H2O by photo-chemically driven thermodynamical neutral or favourable methods.

A lot of naturally occuring chemistry can be quite extraordinary, such as the current suggestion that photosynthesis makes use of quantum mechanical effects to reduce the energy cost or that human brains are also making use of similar effects, under more extreme conditions found in the less hospitable locations have produced very strange forms of life. Most of our day-to-day experiences don't really show this as most forms of life we encounter are pretty similar due to comparitive evolution, count how many animals you know that have ribcages for example.

Yeah okay, I was just going by my pretty basic understanding of it all

But still doesnt change the fact that Synthesis as described by the godchild is utterly impossible.

I wouldn't say impossible, I would however say it is a load of rubbish. If we are assuming that synthetic life means using inorganic components (such as metals) humans already use metals that are extremely important to our metabolisim though they occur in very minature quanties compared to Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen and Nitrogen. The obvious example is Iron, which forms the central part of hemoglobin and the basis for our oxygen transfer mechanism, more complicated answers would be our nerve system which works off a active potential produced by potassium ions.

My point is that there is really no difference from an incredibly complicated machine like 'organic' bodies (philosophy aside ;D) and a 'synthetic' body.

This is actually one of the themes running through Mass Effect 3: Accepting diversity and working together, we have the geth species are fairly sympathetic characters with our main exposure being the character Legion, he displays several natural traits in 'organic' species such as when he wears some of Shepard's Armour (Did he respect Shepard because Shepard fought the Reapers, did Legion draw strenght from Shepard's example?) and when Legions weapon of choice is that used by the first Geth to defend its fellows against the Quarians.

Yeah okay, but at least we agree Synthesis as described is load of rubbish and speaking of the Geth, Synthesis also go against their fundamental beliefs.

I mean Legion makes it pretty clear that the Geth want to be free, free to make their own choices and with nobody changing them...yet that is exactly what Synthesis, if you take it at face value, does. It is Shepard who makes the decision to change every species out there without any input from anyone else and that in turn goes against the fundamental belief fo an entire Synthetic species...

Really great compromise there, eh

[Rob_K1]

Just posted a thread detailing why the 'Prothean VI couldn't detect indoctrination, so Shepard mustn't be indoctrinated' argument is not foolproof. I'd appreciate it if you could link to the thread or at least the video linked below, when the argument is raised:

Thread link

Video link

Go to around 8:56 in the video link, where Javik mentions being betrayed by indoctrinated people. It stands to reason that the Protheans couldn't certifiably detect indoctrination with 100% reliability.

Just wanted to post it here anyway and for the thread/video to be linked, as it can quite easily be lost and people cannot deny words spoken by in-game characters whereas they can deny what someone on a forum says. It might help prevent that being used as a case against indoctrination being false anyway.

[JustAidan]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

JustAidan wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

JustAidan wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Well even atoms cannot be combined at will. Not all atoms fit together with all others no matter hwo hard you might try, this is best exemplified with the noble gasses who dont interact with anything.

*snipped other bits*

Actually there is chemistry that examines noble gasses that has started up in recent years, I don't actually study that branch myself so I can't give you more detail but it is something that is being explored. With regards to fitting together elements if you are just trying to combine two elements you are not likely to get anywhere. More complicated structures can allow for very strange combinations of elements and chemistry. These manner of effects are being examined for possible uses such as producing Oxygen and Hydrogen from Water. Producing O and H from water is actually straight forward and simply requires an intense applied potential to drive the reaction, for practical purposes this is rather uselss since it has a very high energy cost, far more than you would gain by using O and H as fuel sources. Instead current methods are examining complex structures that can produce H and O from H2O by photo-chemically driven thermodynamical neutral or favourable methods.

A lot of naturally occuring chemistry can be quite extraordinary, such as the current suggestion that photosynthesis makes use of quantum mechanical effects to reduce the energy cost or that human brains are also making use of similar effects, under more extreme conditions found in the less hospitable locations have produced very strange forms of life. Most of our day-to-day experiences don't really show this as most forms of life we encounter are pretty similar due to comparitive evolution, count how many animals you know that have ribcages for example.

Yeah okay, I was just going by my pretty basic understanding of it all

But still doesnt change the fact that Synthesis as described by the godchild is utterly impossible.

I wouldn't say impossible, I would however say it is a load of rubbish. If we are assuming that synthetic life means using inorganic components (such as metals) humans already use metals that are extremely important to our metabolisim though they occur in very minature quanties compared to Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen and Nitrogen. The obvious example is Iron, which forms the central part of hemoglobin and the basis for our oxygen transfer mechanism, more complicated answers would be our nerve system which works off a active potential produced by potassium ions.

My point is that there is really no difference from an incredibly complicated machine like 'organic' bodies (philosophy aside ;D) and a 'synthetic' body.

This is actually one of the themes running through Mass Effect 3: Accepting diversity and working together, we have the geth species are fairly sympathetic characters with our main exposure being the character Legion, he displays several natural traits in 'organic' species such as when he wears some of Shepard's Armour (Did he respect Shepard because Shepard fought the Reapers, did Legion draw strenght from Shepard's example?) and when Legions weapon of choice is that used by the first Geth to defend its fellows against the Quarians.

Yeah okay, but at least we agree Synthesis as described is load of rubbish and speaking of the Geth, Synthesis also go against their fundamental beliefs.

I mean Legion makes it pretty clear that the Geth want to be free, free to make their own choices and with nobody changing them...yet that is exactly what Synthesis, if you take it at face value, does. It is Shepard who makes the decision to change every species out there without any input from anyone else and that in turn goes against the fundamental belief fo an entire Synthetic species...

Really great compromise there, eh

The thread had a physicology student in awhile ago discussing how the synthesis option was presented so as to appear as a compromise between the two options and conditioned responses with the colour schemes which was taken as further evidence of the IDoc theory.
But, yeah, forced conformity on an entire galaxy isn't all that nice

Modifié par JustAidan, 28 mars 2012 - 11:29 .

[ZajoE38]

I've been wondering why the Catalyst didn't open the Citadel relay in ME1. I think the Catalyst is just manifested Harbinger in Shepard's mind, trying to convince/bluff him that Reapers are under control of something higher and Shepard can control them instead of Catalyst. Why would he do that? Why a perfect sophisticated being would pass his power to a primitive organic? If Harbinger appeared in Shepard's mind as a Reaper, it would be immediately suspicious, so he took a form of a child. And how could possibly some organic control a Reaper? Not even thousands of them. Every reaper is countless of minds merged to one, organic brain can't do that. And synthesis is just surrendering to Reapers without fight.

[RoyalGambit]

ZajoE38 wrote...

I've been wondering why the Catalyst didn't open the Citadel relay in ME1. I think the Catalyst is just manifested Harbinger in Shepard's mind, trying to convince/bluff him that Reapers are under control of something higher and Shepard can control them instead of Catalyst. Why would he do that? Why a perfect sophisticated being would pass his power to a primitive organic? If Harbinger appeared in Shepard's mind as a Reaper, it would be immediately suspicious, so he took a form of a child. And how could possibly some organic control a Reaper? Not even thousands of them. Every reaper is countless of minds merged to one, organic brain can't do that. And synthesis is just surrendering to Reapers without fight.

It also bothers me that Shepard is able to control them even though he dies. Where exactly does his mind live on, inside the reapers?

[withneelandi]

Spiderman_2028 wrote...

Martukis wrote...]

 There is something of a three word difference - if you destroyed the geth, there isn't "and also the geth" added to the destroy dialogue. You can check http://mod.gib.me/ma...3/testdump2.txt for conditional dialogues, but I know from experience about that one, too. Hard to see any signfigance in that, and there doesn't seem to be any difference between destroying the quarians and making peace between geth and quarians, which seems strange.

Cool. Was more for my own curiosity than anything. Makes sense that he makes no mention of the Geth if they're all dead/deactivated/RROD or whatever you wanna call it... Thanks muchly!

The Sythesis option leads to the creation of the darkspawn! Corpeus is the invisible man! Shepard is the Maker, Andraste is whoever his LI is! Qunari are evolved krogans! Thessia is the Arthalan!

Seriously though. I'm making this stuff up.

There is a part of me toying with seeing how many people I can convince that this is actualy true though.

EDIT: I seem to have quoted the wrong post. This made a lot more sense when it quoted someone talking about Sandal using stasis. Honest.

Modifié par withneelandi, 28 mars 2012 - 11:42 .

[ChuckieJ]

My new theory is below and I think I'm the first to present it. Or boy I hope I am.

Kroen135 wrote...

Yeah it was a huge slap in the face to me. Saw something earlier on this thread about "hidden files" and decided to look into it using my actual ME3 folder and using sources.

It's definately something fresh that can atleast be directed toward IT

So I tweeted @MassEffect because it is a genuine concern to me that people with minimal internet access be able to complete the game. With my theory you need to at least get online because of exactly what Kroen135 mentioned. The content needs to be unlocked. But how? Will it merely unlock on April 6th?

@masseffect I hope this content is easy for people in rural areas to get. Thanks for all your hard work here on the Twitters.

@chuckiej We hope to make any future content accessible to all players, thanks for your Tweets!

My theory:

Chris Priestly gave us the biggest clue of all.

We understand there is a lot of debate on the Mass Effect 3 ending and we will be more than happy to engage in healthy discussions once more people get to experience the game. 

The number of people who have completed the game is the key. Much like Operation: Fortress, Bioware has the ability to capture information about the progress of online gamers playing the campaign (For Xbox, even if they don't have Xbox Live Gold they can still play connected to Live). The content is on the disc and will automatically (or semi-automatically) unlock once a certain number or percentage of players have completed the ending. A ping/short message will be sent to the game (or the game checks for one on launch) much like the one that popped up explaining Operation: Fortress. When the game receieves this message the content unlocks (or for the PC players, it downloads).

Now I definitely could be wrong about the "number or percentage of players" part but I think it would be pretty cool. The other option is to use the same method but unlock it immediately after the PAX panel (after which certainly enough people should have "experienced the game"). The point would be to avoid large downloads for players who might not be able to get them easily. As long as you can get online at all, you can get the content when everyone else does automatically.

Modifié par ChuckieJ, 28 mars 2012 - 12:00 .

[Stigweird85]

ZoharContact wrote...

Furthermore, indoctrination does not trick the subject with hallucinations. It fundamentally changes their thinking patterns in a way that helps the reapers, and only gradually. For example, "our only hope of survival is to submit" -Saren, or "the reapers must be controlled, not destroyed; they are too valuable" -TIM. If Shepard truly lost herself to indoctrination, she would not "snap" and lose cognizance in a hallucination. She would be aware, and she would have come to a different conclusion.

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet(I'm about 10 pages behind) but from the codex

Mass Effect 3 Codex wrote...
Organics undergoing indoctrination may complain of headaches and buzzing or ringing in their ears. As time passes, they have feelings of "being watched" and hallucinations of "ghostly" presences. Ultimately, the Reaper gains the ability to use the victim's body to amplify its signals, manifesting as "alien" voices in the mind.

So hallucinations are a very real possibility

[ZajoE38]

RoyalGambit wrote...

ZajoE38 wrote...

I've been wondering why the Catalyst didn't open the Citadel relay in ME1. I think the Catalyst is just manifested Harbinger in Shepard's mind, trying to convince/bluff him that Reapers are under control of something higher and Shepard can control them instead of Catalyst. Why would he do that? Why a perfect sophisticated being would pass his power to a primitive organic? If Harbinger appeared in Shepard's mind as a Reaper, it would be immediately suspicious, so he took a form of a child. And how could possibly some organic control a Reaper? Not even thousands of them. Every reaper is countless of minds merged to one, organic brain can't do that. And synthesis is just surrendering to Reapers without fight.

It also bothers me that Shepard is able to control them even though he dies. Where exactly does his mind live on, inside the reapers?

If the ending would be "what you see is what you get" than Shepard's mind would be transfered not into a Reaper but into Citadel, or at least into some part of it that controlls the Reapers. But this is likely wrong, Reapers are not controlled. Drew Karpyshin stated: ME is all about the Reapers and Mass relays. He was forbidden to tell more.

[nyrocron]

bigstig wrote...

protognosis wrote...

Playing around in the codex.
Noticed that there are Mass Relays that are dormant.
But Shepard has no knowledge of these as they aren't used and are powered down.
The only relays that are "destroyed" are the ones used in the games, which are the only o es Snepard has knowledge of.

I've mentioned that before, it could be used either way i.e. If endings stand then perhaps only active relays destroyed meaning there is hope for the future or as you said it is only the ones Shepard has visited or in the case of the arrival DLC destroyed.

I'm a bit behind and that may already have been said, but imo that would make a nice setting for a new game where you would activate and explore all the inactive mass relays.
If they explain the plot holes I would also be fine with that. But they have to provide at least some kind of explanation of all the stuff that is going on in the current endings.

[Domanese]

Rob_K1 wrote...

Just posted a thread detailing why the 'Prothean VI couldn't detect indoctrination, so Shepard mustn't be indoctrinated' argument is not foolproof. I'd appreciate it if you could link to the thread or at least the video linked below, when the argument is raised:

Thread link

Video link

Go to around 8:56 in the video link, where Javik mentions being betrayed by indoctrinated people. It stands to reason that the Protheans couldn't certifiably detect indoctrination with 100% reliability.

Just wanted to post it here anyway and for the thread/video to be linked, as it can quite easily be lost and people cannot deny words spoken by in-game characters whereas they can deny what someone on a forum says. It might help prevent that being used as a case against indoctrination being false anyway.

Didn't Vigil also confirm that they couldn't always detect indoctrination 100% of the time as well in Mass Effect 1? I seem to remember that as well.

[JustAidan]

bigstig wrote...

ZoharContact wrote...

Furthermore, indoctrination does not trick the subject with hallucinations. It fundamentally changes their thinking patterns in a way that helps the reapers, and only gradually. For example, "our only hope of survival is to submit" -Saren, or "the reapers must be controlled, not destroyed; they are too valuable" -TIM. If Shepard truly lost herself to indoctrination, she would not "snap" and lose cognizance in a hallucination. She would be aware, and she would have come to a different conclusion.

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet(I'm about 10 pages behind) but from the codex

Mass Effect 3 Codex wrote...
Organics undergoing indoctrination may complain of headaches and buzzing or ringing in their ears. As time passes, they have feelings of "being watched" and hallucinations of "ghostly" presences. Ultimately, the Reaper gains the ability to use the victim's body to amplify its signals, manifesting as "alien" voices in the mind.

So hallucinations are a very real possibility

When aboard the derelict reaper in ME2 you can see video logs of people reacting to things which are not there.
So it is a certainity.

[RorickHuon]

Hunter_Wolf wrote...

oblique9 wrote...

Has anybody brought up the labels on the structure supports in the Citadel when Shep is walking towards the console at the end are labeled "1M1" - is there any significance to be had on this?

It's old news but so far nobody has found significance other than it being human.

Well the model for the "1m1" object is an antenna. What is strange about it is its location in a part of the citadel where no one has ever been. The use of an antenna is supposed to imply a type of signal exchange receiving and transmitting. So the question is, why is it there?

[nyrocron]

RorickHuon wrote...

Hunter_Wolf wrote...

oblique9 wrote...

Has anybody brought up the labels on the structure supports in the Citadel when Shep is walking towards the console at the end are labeled "1M1" - is there any significance to be had on this?

It's old news but so far nobody has found significance other than it being human.

Well the model for the "1m1" object is an antenna. What is strange about it is its location in a part of the citadel where no one has ever been. The use of an antenna is supposed to imply a type of signal exchange receiving and transmitting. So the question is, why is it there?

Just in case you did not know, it also appeared on the Citadel in the ME1 ending.

[Rifneno]

Crap. I hate to be the bearer of bad news since a lot of people thought this was significant but in the interest of fairness...

Can anyone verify that you don't wear breather helmets in Cronos Station? I noticed a portion of it (seen here) where the hull has been breached. You can see the stars outside and such. There's no apparent mass effect field protecting the inside from having all the air sucked out of that hull breach. In ME2 when the SR-1 goes down they were very accurate with the air. It was present on the lower levels because there was no breach. You wear a helmet on the upper levels and all the air is sucked out of the lower levels when you open the door. When you get to Joker there's a very distinct blue mass effect field around the cockpit. Plus he's wearing a helmet himself.
A lot of people thought (and rightfully so) that it was very significant that Shepard was in open space without a helmet when talking to Harbie's ghostkid. Unfortunately if Cronos Station was breached from allied fire and Shepard was in there without a helmet... it should've had the same result: dead hero. I can't be sure from my own game because I screwed with the Coalesced to make helmets never appear anywhere. The ones I checked on Youtube though had no helmets either, or had custom helmets for stats.