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Was the ending a hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory


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evisneffo

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Newcomer here, and I have a question which I'll wager has already been raised (so if it has feel free to quote it at me).

What in-game evidence would be required to convince you that the theory is incorrect?

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DreamTension wrote...

Byne:"To me, Jessica Merizan linking this thread in a tweet saying it explains the endings better than she ever could seems kind of telling. Sort of a way to send a message to the people following closely."

I did NOT know that. Thanks! I know she had "wink" in some messages and what not, but that could be anything.

Still doesn't explain the lack of hints, but I'm trying to be patient.


She linked at least twice to this thread, once before and once after the ending 'net rage. :)

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protognosis wrote...

byne wrote...

protognosis wrote...
I know right?  I died more on Marauder Shields than I did the entire rest of the game!!! :crying:


They took away my ability to charge and then told me to fight the most awesome Marauder in the galaxy. :pinched:


I know right?  You had no sheilds, no biotics, no armor, no real weapons and you had to go up against Maruader Shields?  He is more awesome than Leroy Jethro Gibbs and MacGyver combined!!!!!

Never Forget!  


Gibbs FTW

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ShepardTheHopeful

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..my god why is this forum still going. The answer's already been given go look up the intoxication theory that's the real ending.

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byne wrote...

JustAidan wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Oh the people at Reddit are on board with this now too?

Sweet.


Yep.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Indoctrinated

Its own subforum.

Reminded me that the Reven reveal in KOTOR was bioware back in the day :)


After beating KotOR the first time, I always named my characters Darth Revan, so I could have moments like this one


Aha someone else did that as well, though I only used Raven.
I did a similar thing when the random, inverted commas, name generator in Neverwinter Nights 2 threw up the name "Ashard". (If you haven't played the game the main character has a shard of a legendary sword embedded in his chest.)

Modifié par JustAidan, 28 mars 2012 - 10:02 .


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ShepardTheHopeful wrote...

..my god why is this forum still going. The answer's already been given go look up the intoxication theory that's the real ending.


Truth is: Everything after Shepard drank the Ryncol in ME2 has just been a delirium hallucination. At the end of ME3, Shep finally dies of liver failure.

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

ShepardTheHopeful wrote...

..my god why is this forum still going. The answer's already been given go look up the intoxication theory that's the real ending.


Truth is: Everything after Shepard drank the Ryncol in ME2 has just been a delirium hallucination. At the end of ME3, Shep finally dies of liver failure.


The last two game were actually a dream induced by the illusive man. Similar to source code. If you've seen that flick.
Just kidding by the way.

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

ShepardTheHopeful wrote...

..my god why is this forum still going. The answer's already been given go look up the intoxication theory that's the real ending.


Truth is: Everything after Shepard drank the Ryncol in ME2 has just been a delirium hallucination. At the end of ME3, Shep finally dies of liver failure.


Explain waking up next to Aria in Purgatory then... ;)

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ShepardTheHopeful

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

ShepardTheHopeful wrote...

..my god why is this forum still going. The answer's already been given go look up the intoxication theory that's the real ending.


Truth is: Everything after Shepard drank the Ryncol in ME2 has just been a delirium hallucination. At the end of ME3, Shep finally dies of liver failure.


The synthetics that were suppose to keep the liver going were destroyed when Harbringer hit you with the laser Which was actually shepard being hit by a the Mako he had forsaken years back. That last 5 minutes is actually the last stages of Cirrhosis and shepard is just accepting the final stages of it. Symptoms of the final stage include but are not limited to. Bleeding, weakness, confusion and inability to think correctly, and a change in eye color. It all makes sense!

Also Anderson died of it too...just earlier because he was older. 

As for waking up next to aria...well we did warn Shepard to watch out for those Asari Mamosas. Remember just because they're called Mamosas doesn't make them EARTH Mamosas. 

Modifié par ShepardTheHopeful, 28 mars 2012 - 10:09 .


#24735
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IGN spoilercast went deep into mass effect 3's plot and ending. They said the only explanation for the endings was "indoctrination theory" everything else just didn't make sense. if anyone is interested -
http://www.ign.com/v...t-3-spoilercast

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Earthborn_Shepard

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duuuude once IGN declares something the "only explanation" it's probably universal canon.

#24737
ShepardTheHopeful

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I made perfect sense ignoring the indoctrination theory but I'm just having more fun talking about Shepard being ****** ass drunk than trying to logically dismiss the IT

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here is another tweet from earlier... have you all seen it?

http://imgur.com/vw4Cy

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The fact that Destin is sold on this theory makes me quite happy.

He's a big fan of the series and did most all the videos for the IGN walkthrough.

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Really interesting ideas coming from everyone. Makes waiting until April much more bearable than on some other threads :D

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 28 mars 2012 - 10:46 .


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Did I miss anything relating to nudity?

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An End Once and For All

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llbountyhunter wrote...

here is another tweet from earlier... have you all seen it?

http://imgur.com/vw4Cy


They're messing with us big time.

If all goes wrong I can't imagine the size of the ****storm it will occur.

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Dance Craze wrote...

Did I miss anything relating to nudity?


Since you mention it, Liara is the only character who is actually nude at any point in ME3. Ash is wearing a bra and panties in her romance scene, and, aside from that being dumb, it's the same scene (animations and camera angles) as Liara's, so you wouldn't have seen anything anyway...

Confused.

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llbountyhunter wrote...

here is another tweet from earlier... have you all seen it?

http://imgur.com/vw4Cy


This is wierd...

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llbountyhunter

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N7xELITE wrote...

An End Once and For All


isnt that the name of the last song?

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evisneffo wrote...

Newcomer here, and I have a question which I'll wager has already been raised (so if it has feel free to quote it at me).

What in-game evidence would be required to convince you that the theory is incorrect?


nvm

Modifié par Ecmoose, 28 mars 2012 - 10:27 .


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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Hacedor1566 wrote...

@Dance Craze then if ghost child is fake, what would the catalyst be?

The citadel. Maybe the Crucible is the trigger of the gun, and the gun is the Citadel. It has the power to control the Mass Relays, so it can destroy the entire network... And that give the actual ending some sense... And I don't like that... :(


I have actually been considering that part, if the Citadel is the Catalyst then lets look at what the Citadel is. It is the hub of the relay network and a mass relay in itself leading to Dark Space.

Imagine now if the crucible basicly amplifies the natural power of the Citadel and grants whoever controls the Crucible, control of where it fires what it affects of to. Essentially the Citadel could become a massive "cannon" of sorts shooting the Reapers back to darkspace (and possibly far beyond that) in a Mass Relay effect.

It is just a thought i had as that would be defeating the Reapers but without using conventional force.


That is the current ending, you know...

#24749
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I just want things changed.

Modifié par Badger_SO, 28 mars 2012 - 10:32 .


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llbountyhunter wrote...

N7xELITE wrote...

An End Once and For All


isnt that the name of the last song?

Yes , its my motto For the new ending=  An End Once and For All