Mike Aus wrote...
OK, give us your logic theory. I'm keen to hear it.
My memory is rough so I'm just going to give my version of the most popular theorists points that I'm aware of.
The child: I think this is honestly the cliche of all sci-fi the "I've picked a form you are most comfortable with" I don't think the reaper AI was a child because of indoctrination I simply feel that Shepard was thinking about the child. Which brings me to the dreams.
My idea is the dreams are just that dreams. I don't think the shadows represent indoctrination nor the child representing Shepards decent into the reaper's will. I simply see it as a dream. This child was the first person Shepard really ever failed to save once the reapers hit he was the first "failed mission". I admit it looks sketchy when the child is talking and then disappears as well as Anderson never seeing the child, nor the soldiers helping the child up but there are a few points I want to mention.
Anderson was focusing on a door that he had to open to get out into an open field, to see more of his men and fellow species being harvested and killed. While these thoughts were in his head and opening the door a reaper was walking around outside. If that were me I wouldn't have noticed a low talking british child in an airduct. He obviously had enough on his head. I think he never even noticed the child at all nor Shepard talking to him. He never even asks about it you never hear a word about the child mentioned by anyone again. I also believe he was in the corner of a vent the child could've easily gotten around the corner. But like I said speculation in a logical sense.
I also see the same logic towards soldiers not helping the child. If the child wasn't there why did they wait so long to take off and then only shut the doors and take off after the child is in? Was it because they were waiting for the child to get in and trying to provide cover fire on a planet overwhelmed with enemy ground and air forces? I believe so. But even if it's not true why wait so long for the doors there was a good 30 seconds that could've probably been used to get away were they waiting for the other shuttle? Doesn't seem logical considering the shuttles were screwed either way. But like I said again that's my opinion.
To me the child is a failure Shepard can't take at first. He could've saved the kid pulled him out do anything instead he didn't the kid got away and then blown up. I think the dreams just symbolize his failure in a war that he's not suppose to win. The child is the first failure of this war. The shadows represent the hundreds of thousands of people that are now dead because of your failure to rally then to fight. While I can completely see the reasoning this ISN'T Shepard's fault I can see the game Shepard seeing it that way feeling crippling guilt and it resulting in his nightmares. The fire with Shepard and the child is to represent his own failure and doubts against his chance to win against the reapers one he vocally states to his friends and squad. (though for whatever reason he never talks about the dream..weird but unrelated)
TIM was in the citadel because the citadel was the very last place to be taken under reaper attack. It makes sense since the citadel would be their exit back to dark space once they were done. He had been obsessed with controlling the most powerful force in the universe to see it as his attribution to human society to make them more powerful than the Asari or any other organic or synthetic race. TIM wanted humans to be the final step in evolution to truely own the universe as we're suppose to. But he played with fire and got burnt. Put too much effort into learning the Reapers secrets wasn't powerful or advanced enough to comprehend them. And when he put reaper tech into himself thinking he could use their tech against them. He failed. But the indoctrinated idea along with his own ego was why he alerted the reapers. He got into the citadel first because he didn't want you or anyone else to follow and screw up his reverse indoctrination on the Reapers. The indoctrination kept him from thinking like the genius he was (honestly I liked him til the end where he indoctrinated himself) and realizing telling them to go bring the citadel and attack earth at full force was probably not the best humanity decision. But it explains why he's there in person and looks like a terminator reject.
I honestly think the dream like state is from bloodloss and thuroughly having his ass handed to him. The stomach wound I'm assuming as a glitch because you do get shot by TIM if you screw up. I think the game being rushed as it was, was meant to have an indoctrination scene involved (a much more full one thatn the TIM thing) or maybe even at the child but I think it was taken out at THAT point not that the choices themselves were an indoctrination but rather the discussion with TIM was meant to go a different route and just didn't.
The last part I think happened no one agrees with I see it as a theory and if you don't like it you don't but please stop telling me it's impossible it's a sci-fi game people.
I think Shepard lives and crashes down to earth. He lives for the following reason. He's part synthetic, the syntehtics are what are keeping his body alive, but no matter what they try without them it's more than likely he would end up a dead hunk of Shepard flesh again. But hear me out. This is a machine that's billions of years old. It has the power to destroy synthetics without destroying syntehtics (we're assuming your ems is high enough that the beam doesn't destroy earth in the process and as you can see the reapers don't explode they just kinda stop working and drop) This machine also has the ability to somehow destroy all the mass relays, without destroying all the galaxies involved which was never explained, nor proven possible considering what happened when we destroyed the mass relay in the Terminus system. (Go ask the Batarians about it...oh wait they're dead)
Is it really so much to assume Shepard fell to earth died stayed dead for a period of time (we have no idea how long he was really under all the rubble) and the crucible being this unknown machine with obvious mastery of time and space, couldn't affect shepard in a way that it might restore him to pre-synthetic status? My theory is it worked similar to status Shepard was hit and his body was restored to a time where he could survive without the synthetics (which also explains the not staying dead despite the fall from space) and that final breath at the scene is actually him breathing for the first time because he's brought back from death.
It's kind of like a Full Metal Alchemist type ending Shepard put so much sacrifice into the Crucible, the universe, he did what he did for everyone (at least my shepard did he was paragon) And the universe just said "wow you did a lot" and cut the dude a break. BUT like I said it's a theory but I think it's a sound theory at the least.
If you hate it hate it but I think it's right and that's good enough for me. I'm through attacking IT so I hope you'll give my theory a little bit of thought. It's not so impossible as I hear other IT people tell me as they try to tear me apart saying I make no sense. But hey opinions are opinionated. There's more to the theory but honestly the IT theory has been going on for so long and has so many variations that I just can't keep track of them all.
yay space magic!
Also if you pick up certain pistols you could easily fire all the shots needed from the husks to the end where you shoot the conduit without having to reload. Could just be that Shepard was going to fire until he ran out of bullets and just had enough of a full clip to pull off what he needed. Makes sense some of the pistols could hold up to 25-30 bullets only takes about 16-20 to do what he needs. But that's speculation nothing more.
Modifié par ShepardTheHopeful, 28 mars 2012 - 11:36 .
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It only shows they planned it at one point.
Low EMS means that you are not a threat to the reapers and thus they spent less effort on indoctrinating you.
