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[DRTJR]

Tom Lehrer wrote...
You could get an egg donor and surrogate for Sheaprd and sperm donor for Tali if you have to have a child that is biologicaly yours but that would be cruel to the orphans. 

If Shepard survives that's probibly what is going to happen. Or you could adopt some baby Krogans, their cute, huggable, and Shepard wouldn't  hurt them wresling.

[dashadeishot]

Well since its a game, I'm going with if bioware wants it to be possible it would/will be possible.

[palker]

Choose synthesis for an ending and you can mate with anything that alive and produce offspring weird green robo offspring that is.

[What?]

Personally, I don't understand this fixation regarding human-quarian breeding. It can't happen. They're two entirely different species, who evolved under entirely different circumstances. Nor do I understand why being unable to breed with said alien is enough to put some people off of the romance. I romanced Tali, and I'm perfectly fine with the fact she and Shepard can't produce offspring. There are innumerable orphans out there because of the Reaper War, for those inclined toward children.

[linkblade0]

TheLeoMan wrote...

One is amino acid,the other dextro.
That about wraps it up.

Actually they are both amino acids.  Amino acids can have an orientation and in a specific region they will alway choose that.  Here on Earth, amino acids orient themselves to levo protiens.  Whereas Palaven and Rannoch, the homeworld for the Turians and Quarians repectively, affiliate themselves on the opposite side dextro.  And believe it or not all this is actually based in real science.

[DevilBeast]

As others already have pointed out I highly doubt it´s possible. And as Reiella said, it´s more possible to cross breed a human and a shark since all species are related to each other in one way or the other. Quarians and humans have evolved on two different planets, meaning they share no common ancestry at all, and not to mention the dextro levo incompability.

Modifié par DevilBeast, 27 mai 2012 - 01:14 .

[DevilBeast]

Helios969 wrote...

Bantz wrote...

Helios969 wrote...

The genetic enhancements Cerberus provided during reconstruction allows Sheppard's super-sperm/ovum to interbreed with any of the races.

Me and Tali are having a baby, hell yeah!

now that's an interesting head cannon

Hey, a guy's got to hold onto his little fantasies after Bioware sucked the magic out of the game for me.

Sucked the magic out?? Then what about space magic:wizard:??

[G Kevin]

In all honesty, I wouldn't be surprised if it's possible. Nothing a bit of writing wouldn't try and explain. I guess that is left for interpretation afterwards if you romanced Tali. Personally, I don't care one way or another. I'm here for Tali.

[DevilBeast]

Helios969 wrote...

I find it funny that all the apparent biology people have much pooh-pooh about interspecies breeding, but no problem with the fact that apparently most all sentient life across the galaxy are bipedals with opposing thumbs with fundamentally something like human torsos. If sentient life is in fact as prevalent as the ME universe, it would be as different as it is numerous.

Actually being bipedal and as such allowing us to have our hands free to make and use tools is what have triggered our brains to evolve in the way it did. Or so the scientists gather.
And since it´s safe to assume that all life in the universe follows the same "laws" regarding evolution, it wouldn´t be difficult to imagine extraterrestrial being bipedal and having hands with opposing thumbs.

[DevilBeast]

Helios969 wrote...

Zardoc wrote...

Helios969 wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

Even if it was possible, can you even imagine how horrible that child's life would be? How lonely to be the only member of its species in the galaxy? It wouldn't be neither human nor quarian and it would be impossible for him/her to blend with either society.

Don't put a child through that. Just adopt some war orphans.

That's kind of a racist line of thought.

...how?

There was a time not so long ago the same argument was made to interacial couples.  Unfortately there are still people in the world that believe people should stick to "their race." 

My view is that if we all have sex together and make babies, we'll achieve synthesis (without the green magic.)

I´m more worried about how a quarian/human hybrid will even be able toc survive. You know, with it´s proteins not being able to function together. It would be like giving A+ blood to someone who´s 0-. Only  worse.

Modifié par DevilBeast, 27 mai 2012 - 01:46 .

[DevilBeast]

Helios969 wrote...

Of course, science of today compared to ME world like today verses seventeenth century science. I have faith science can find a way for me and Tali (or someone else and some other race.)

But from what we have seen even science in ME hasn´t found a way to cross breed species. I mean, many of the Citadel species have been living together for thousands of years and probably had countless of inter species relationships and I imagine many of those people had just as much desire to have kids with each other. But since there aren´t any hybrids (asari doesn´t count because they don´t actually share any genetic material with the father) in ME I doubt it has been possible to create said hybrids.

[lordofdogtown19]

comrade gando wrote...

If shep cant have offspring with her then might as well make her at least look alien. Kinda crazy having a 99% human like person but no chance of children what is that about?

I think that's exaclty why they made her pretty human. Being with a Quarian already presents a lot of chalenges to a human because of thier amino acids and Quarians immune system. So why make it harder for humans to be with Quarians?

So what I can't have biological kids with Tali? Can't have em with Miranda either so I have the same solution: Adoption

[Tom Lehrer]

DevilBeast wrote...

I´m more worried about how a quarian/human hybrid will even be able toc survive. You know, with it´s proteins not being able to function together. It would be like giving A+ blood to someone who´s 0-. Just worse.

 

It would be a very short very painful life assuming such a creature could even survie full term .

[Shallyah]

Logically thinking, a quarian and a human wouldn't be able to breed via conventional means. While they can have full sexual relationships and apparently there are ingame books of recommendations for postures and erogenous zones for both races to please each other, the fecundation and creation of an embryo wouldn't happen without heavy assistance from genetic science, if at all.

That is of course barring space magic. Mass Effect never denies or confirms whether Tali and Shepard could have a child or not, and we never even get to see a quarian kid during the whole trilogy. If not because Tali mentions in some conversation that quarian babies are put into a bubble at birth to protect them from envirohazards until they can be dressed with an envirosuit, we might as well think quarians are all born adult.

Modifié par Shallyah, 27 mai 2012 - 01:58 .

[Ticonderoga117]

lordofdogtown19 wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

If shep cant have offspring with her then might as well make her at least look alien. Kinda crazy having a 99% human like person but no chance of children what is that about?

I think that's exaclty why they made her pretty human. Being with a Quarian already presents a lot of chalenges to a human because of thier amino acids and Quarians immune system. So why make it harder for humans to be with Quarians?

So what I can't have biological kids with Tali? Can't have em with Miranda either so I have the same solution: Adoption

This. And I have the perfect candidate: Jona.

[Helios969]

A lot of people just don't know how to have fun with this. Reminds me of professor from Simpsons. The sum of the quantum entanglement is such that no amount of energy can overcome its mass.

[Facemelter91]

First the whole chirality thing bugs the hell out of me because that not how it works in the real world. If say I was to eat anything dextro based NOTHING would happen, I would get taste and it would pass through my body without any adverse side effects, well none that are of the allergic type, no nutrients would be taken out of said food because of its opposite chirality.

People are well aware it is NATURALLY impossible for them to have children, but as said quite a few times in this topic, there is science! Personally I head cannon a child that remains primarily Quarian, but is created with heavily, and perfectly strong and acceptable sperm, and of coarse along with a natural egg,

Feel a bit weird so heavily thinking about this, but there isn't much else that is particularly interesting to think about while at work that sparks an intelligent within mind contemplation. Also I'm sure the savior of the whole damned galaxy, the three time savior at that would be granted at least one "wish" regardless of credits that I'm sure will be thrown at him in the after math anyway.

[justafan]

I really don't see the appeal of any human/x hybrid. Humans and all other intelligent life evolved on different worlds and their bodies function in wildly different ways, regardless of chirality of DNA they would be unable to create a hybrid.

The only evidence that species can mix comes from the Reapers, and ignoring the fact that that what the reapers create are abominations, it takes so many cybernetic augmentations that the final product can hardly be considered a hybrid, and more a cyborg. Also, galactic society has been going on for thousands of years before the humans joined, and if hybrids were possible, I'm sure it would have already been done. There is nothing wrong with wanting Quman babies, but it is just a little too far-fetched for my tastes.

Now, as a fan of Tali, my personal headcanon is that they adopt orphans from the war, starting with Jona as others have suggested. Poor kid needs a good home and I think it would be the best match for them as Tali would be the type to love any child even if it was not technically her own.

[Unschuld]

palker wrote...

Choose synthesis for an ending and you can mate with anything that alive and produce offspring weird green robo offspring that is.

Haha nope. Shepard's dead. 

[comrade gando]

lordofdogtown19 wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

If shep cant have offspring with her then might as well make her at least look alien. Kinda crazy having a 99% human like person but no chance of children what is that about?

I think that's exaclty why they made her pretty human. Being with a Quarian already presents a lot of chalenges to a human because of thier amino acids and Quarians immune system. So why make it harder for humans to be with Quarians?

So what I can't have biological kids with Tali? Can't have em with Miranda either so I have the same solution: Adoption

this just might be true, I'm still not convinced bioware is using that photoshop as her actual face since it was so haphazardly "revealed"

as it stands right now, male shep doesn't get an actual alien love interest like femshep gets thane/garrus. no fair!

[sistersafetypin]

Vespervin wrote...

I'm sure Mordin could come up with something.

If he weren't dead 

But anyhoo... Looks can be deceiving and have no bearing on compatibility between species. Quarians and Humans literally don't even have the same basic dna building blocks. If Human food could kill Tali... How could she possible grow one? Or even a hybrid?

[Helios969]

sistersafetypin wrote...

Vespervin wrote...

I'm sure Mordin could come up with something.

If he weren't dead 

But anyhoo... Looks can be deceiving and have no bearing on compatibility between species. Quarians and Humans literally don't even have the same basic dna building blocks. If Human food could kill Tali... How could she possible grow one? Or even a hybrid?

Well, if green space magic can turn biologicals into machine/organic hybrids and vice versa, I don't know why genetics thousands of more years advanced than where we're at can't.

[Cadeym]

Rukioish wrote...

Hahahahahaha hahaha!!

Oh god.... I can't stop laughing

[Mezantine]

Shallyah wrote...

Logically thinking, a quarian and a human wouldn't be able to breed via conventional means. While they can have full sexual relationships and apparently there are ingame books of recommendations for postures and erogenous zones for both races to please each other, the fecundation and creation of an embryo wouldn't happen without heavy assistance from genetic science, if at all.

That is of course barring space magic. Mass Effect never denies or confirms whether Tali and Shepard could have a child or not, and we never even get to see a quarian kid during the whole trilogy. If not because Tali mentions in some conversation that quarian babies are put into a bubble at birth to protect them from envirohazards until they can be dressed with an envirosuit, we might as well think quarians are all born adult.

iirc if you take Javik on the dreadnaught mission he will say something like 'a meeting between species, a pointless exercise' when EDI brings up that Sheppard and Tali were intimate.

[carrmatt91]

i don't see why it shouldn't be impossible, difficult yes but probably not impossible, the chiralty of molecules is said to be random, there have been recorded cases of D type amino acids on earth (VERY rarely, something like a few hundred out of over 187 million amino acids will possibly be D type), most sugars on earth are in fact D type whereas human amino acids are L type, this shows that we can safely ingest D type molecules (D type amino's generally taste sweet whereas L type amino's generally tasteless eg. spearmint and caraway seeds respectively)

there's also a theory that the amount of D type and L type should be similar on earth but cosmic rays are approximately 17% circularly polarized, this could have caused the destruction of most of the amino acids of one chiralty.

the main problem of chiralty comes down to enzymes, an L type enzyme cannot bind with a D type molecule and vice versa due to the molecule being a different shape for the active region of the enzyme

EDIT: quote: 
 Molecules of opposite chirality have identical chemical properties to their mirrored forms, so life that used D amino acids or L sugars may be possible; molecules of such a chirality, however, would be incompatible with organisms using the opposing chirality molecules. 

Modifié par carrmatt91, 27 mai 2012 - 11:33 .